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Should gay marriage be legal in Ireland?

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    #332
    ADTR
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ADTR


    No to marriage. Yes to Civil Unions.


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    #333
    here.from.day.1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭here.from.day.1


    ADTR wrote: »
    No to marriage. Yes to Civil Unions.

    This.


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    #334
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The main issue here isn't entirely recognition by Catholic Church. To me the thread was to see what the social standing is among AH on this topic, which is either going to be made with rough or soft responses...

    It isn't the main issue at all. The main issue for me is how it will affect society at large.
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Hell from a legal stand point though, Is it even possible for Gay's to be civilly married in Ireland?

    Civil Partnerships aren't marriages. They will be able to get civil partnerships once the legislation passes this year, but gay marriages are not being considered by the Government.
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Also... would a Gay marraige go against that Blashpemy Law? 0o"

    No. The blasphemy law that is being put out only deals with speech and publications that cause gross offence to a large proportion of religious adherents. It is up to the courts to interpret what exactly this is. It may never even come into practice. I don't even see why a blasphemy law is necessary.


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    #335
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    why are straight people allowed to marry and gay people only allowed to enter a partnership??i really don't get people who are against this....how on earth would legalising gay marraige harm anybody?it won't warp kids' minds, it won't hurt straight marraige, it's just disgusting that gays are treated like 2nd class citizens. this reminds me of the Divorce referendum when the opposors reckoned that perfectly happy couples would inexplicably begin divorcing if it was legailised and thus it would destroy the very fabric of society:rolleyes:


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    #336
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    ADTR wrote: »
    No to marriage. Yes to Civil Unions.
    here.from.day.1 wrote: »
    This.

    You are both wrong. I've said it once before but it bares repeating "Seperate but equal is a terrible idea"

    Straight people don't own the word marriage, neither does any religion.


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    #337
    gcgirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    why are straight people allowed to marry and gay people only allowed to enter a partnership??i really don't get people who are against this....how on earth would legalising gay marraige harm anybody?it won't warp kids' minds, it won't hurt straight marraige, it's just disgusting that gays are treated like 2nd class citizens. this reminds me of the Divorce referendum when the opposors reckoned tha perfectly happy couples would inexplicably begin divorcing if it was legailised and thus it would destroy the very fabric of society:rolleyes:
    I would not have said it better myself :)


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    #338
    mickydoomsux
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    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    how on earth would legalising gay marraige harm anybody?it won't warp kids' minds, it won't hurt straight marraige

    Exactly. But Ireland's good old 4 remaining Catholics would have you believe that it'll turn children gay and no straight people would ever get married again because of the allure of The Gays.


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    #339
    g5fd6ow0hseima
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Its the 21st Century, time we forget about marriage full stop!


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    #340
    Crucifix
    Registered Users Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    Ban straight marriage


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    #341
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    I honestly can't get over this type of bull****. People posting as if letting two men/women marry will destroy the very fabric of society yet I can't get off a Bus in Dublin city center without seeing Junkies shoot up, I can't go out on a Saturday night without being surrounded by depravity, I can't leave my home without triple locking the door and setting an alarm, I can't walk in my local park on a sunny day without having to share it with a gang of useless drunken abusive wasters, I could go on.

    Yes, gay marriage will destroy the fabric of our noble society. Get real.


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    #342
    bronte
    Registered Users Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    thelordofcheese wrote: »

    Straight people don't own the word marriage, neither does any religion.

    + a million


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    #343
    Dragan
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    Basically they should be allowed marry under the state or under any religion that they are happy to believe in and are willing to marry under.

    If gay marrige is against the teachings of any religion, i don't think they should be forced to allow that marrige to be honest.


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    #344
    Goodshape
    Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Dragan wrote: »
    If gay marrige is against the teachings of any religion, i don't think they should be forced to allow that marrige to be honest.
    I don't think anyone is asking that they should. Marring is civil issue in modern society and only requires the blessing of human beings. Approval from your, or anyone elses, imaginary friends isn't that important.


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    #345
    Goodshape
    Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    ADTR wrote: »
    No to marriage. Yes to Civil Unions.

    Why?


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    #346
    Sharlovesjohn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Sharlovesjohn


    I voted yes and would do it again, I see nothing wrong with two people whether same sex or not commiting there love for one another in the highest possible way? I would have no problem to see two men adopt a child if it was going to give it a loving home? I know and still see many children that were never show any love and affection? why should it matter if their parents are two males or two females showing that love to them?

    Saying that isn't it meant to be the case for hetro couples tax calculated joint or separately should end in the same result?


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    #347
    RiverWilde
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    The definition of the 'family' really needs to be re-evaluated in this country. The vanilla option of one man and his woman model is fine for the majority. Such as myself :). However, I would not deny another section of society the right to marriage.

    Society has changed so much in the last fifty years. I think the law should adapt to reflect that.

    Just because homsexual people want to enter into marriage does not in any way lessen the traditional model.

    However, I would not extend the benefits of marriage to people who are merely co-habiting.

    Riv


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    #348
    Red_Marauder
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    Crucifix wrote: »
    Ban straight marriage
    That's the most sensible thing anybody has posted on this thread.

    The idea of marriage is quite an outdated one. Let matrimony be a religious rite and civil partnership be a civil right. For everybody.


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    #349
    sdanseo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    At the risk of jinxing this, I must congratulate the populous of AH for their maturity. We've collectively proved that contrary to popular belief, it IS possible for there to be a serious and constructive debate in here without everything descending into "yore ma". :pac:


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    #350
    The_Minister
    Registered Users Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Yore other ma


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    #351
    Sulmac
    Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Sulmac


    Copied this from another site:

    1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

    2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

    3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

    4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

    5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

    6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

    7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

    8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

    9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

    10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans

    Yes, it's from an American point of view but I think it gets the point across. :pac:


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    #352
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    I only support gay marriage if both chicks are hot







    :P:P:P


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    #353
    Janine87
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭Janine87


    Yes it should be permitted in Ireland..
    What is the difference between man and woman and man and man??? I dont think there should be any difference made! If they love each other they should be able to get married later in life too!


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    #354
    thelordofcheese
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    The_Minister wrote: »
    Yore other ma

    Yore ma's yer da.


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    #355
    Fink Goddie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Fink Goddie


    The pope will never allow it because then there'll be no priests left, they'll all leave the church and get married to each other!


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    #356
    Janine87
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭Janine87


    Fink Goddie wrote: »
    The pope will never allow it because then there'll be no priests left, they'll all leave the church and get married to each other!

    ok do then!:D


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    #357
    Dumb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Dumb


    thelordofcheese wrote: »
    Godamn it, yes.

    There isn't a single good reason as to why it shouldn't.

    It is against the wishes of our Lord Jesus Christ.


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    #358
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Dumb wrote: »
    It is against the wishes of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    That's not what he told me.

    Anyway, the church should stay out of civil matters.


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    #359
    Janine87
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭Janine87


    Dumb wrote: »
    It is against the wishes of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    thats why I am not with any religion!:D


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    #360
    rainbow kirby
    Registered Users Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Dumb wrote: »
    It is against the wishes of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    If it is, then why do you think the prayer ends with A-Men?


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    #361
    Dumb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Dumb


    thelordofcheese wrote: »
    That's not what he told me.

    Anyway, the church should stay out of civil matters.

    Look at it. Would Our Lord favour two fellas rubbing their dicks up against each other. I don't think so. That's a disgusting at. Filthy, dirty. All that auld stuff they do like pulling back the foreskin and rubbing each other. That's just wrong. :mad:


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