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Dubs overhyped

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭spear thrower


    and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..

    I agree -- it'd be crazy to play Dublin championship matches in Parnell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,597 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Dublin are a pile of s*** simple as that....

    lets talk about teams who might actually win the all-ireland and put Dublin in same bracket as teams like Sligo. No chance of all-ireland

    Now close this thread:D

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    The journalists who write in the Nationals are mostly country men. And it is them that hype up Dublin all the time. Ask the genuine fans how they rate the current Dublin teams and most of them will tell you that they are probably ranked between 5-8 in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,333 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    One thing Dublin are and that is consistent. 17 freaking wides yesterday:)

    I don't know how some fans don't get tired supporting
    that crap!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Marse


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..


    I thought Davoren did alright!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials?

    I'm not aware of anyone 'overhyping' Dublin at the moment. You seem to have invented this idea yourself for the sake of attacking it. Most Dublin supporters I know, and I spoke to a few after the game yesterday, accept that Dublin would need to improve significantly to be All-Ireland contenders. This is actually a very good thing for Gilroy and his panel as it will take a bit of the pressure off them.


    Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!

    Fermanagh and Laois? I don't think Dublin would have alot to fear from either of those teams. Fermanagh have no forwards and Laois have gone backwards over the last couple of years. Have you been watching any football at all?

    Dublin are in the chasing group, along with the likes of Cork, Galway, Derry, Mayo etc Simple as that. They probably won't win it this year but apart from Tyrone and Kerry I'd say they have as much chance as most.

    They were poor enough yesterday but they won, and that will do for now.

    BTW, who are these 'real' teams you refer to? Galway are cuurently in the top 5 or 6 yet you dismiss them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    hes from galway cos im him!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    I'm not aware of anyone 'overhyping' Dublin at the moment. You seem to have invented this idea yourself for the sake of attacking it.

    A great summary of what is going on in this thread.

    Can somebody actually point me to a link where anybody credible at all has touted Dublin as probable, or even possible, AI winners this year?

    The fcuking hype is being overhyped now, do people really have nothing better to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    LeoB wrote: »
    This is the time of year people start dubs bashing. No problem. I think people like you are just a bit jealous of what we have. We dont need people jumping on a supporters bandwagon and they should'nt anyway. They should be proud to support their own. But when they all go anti-Dublin its a bit sickening, its even more sickening when they appear on T.V and Radio.

    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D

    What sort of reaction are you looking for with this post? Are you hoping someone will get themselves banned for losing the rag with you or something?

    Bad form imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Personally I think the Sunday Game was overly critical of them.

    They are a team in transition and that needs to be remembered. They deserved the hype last year based on 2007, but Tyrone came out of nowhere and blew all that away. The standard was raised again by Tyrone and that Dublin team had gone as far as it could.

    A Leinster title and a reasonable performance against the Top 3 would be a good season for them this year.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    People always do one of 2 things, decide the Dubs are sh*te, no better than the weaker teams, not a chance of winning Sam, or they decide like our lovely journalists that we are on the verge of an AI. The truth is, Dublin are a bit behind the top teams in the country. For Dublin to beat teams like Tyrone, Kerry they need to have a great day when the opposition are below par and no Dub would disagree with that. We are in the same boat as the Galways and Corks in my opinion which is below the top teams but battling to equal them. We are in a transition period now so we wont be looking to knock anyone of their perch this year but hopefully in a year or so we can get back in the mix. To say Dublin havent had a chance of winning Sam in the last 4 years is blinkered imo. Say even in the last 6 or so years, how many times have Dublin lost to the eventual champions?? Again, were simply up against better opposition but on a good day with a bit of luck it was certainly possible.

    Original topic anyway, are we overhyped? Absolutely and i think its a major factor in our sub par performances against top opposition. I wouldnt say that the fans or the players believe the hype but it piles pressure on the players. Remember as others have said, who is hyping us? Certainly not the fans. Few are blind to the facts but most can see we are not the best in the country by quite a margin right now. Its people looking to sell their papers etc to the biggest market in the country. So for the arguement about the hype, you are right. Just a pity every single thread about the Dubs ends in a slagging match about things that have nothing to do with the original topic.


    PS. think this is the longest post i ever made here! Hope its not the most non-sensicle! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭corny


    If Dublin play to their best only Kerry and Tyrone would outplay us. I'm not saying we'd beat everyone else or we're better than everyone else just no reason to fear the rest IMO.

    Gilroy needs to do some work alright but i can't remember the last time Dublin were impressive first time out in the championship so i wouldn't talk them up or write them off at this stage. Certainly should win Leinster by default and after that a favourable draw and a bit of luck you never know;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    corny wrote: »
    If Dublin play to their best only Kerry and Tyrone would outplay us. I'm not saying we'd beat everyone else or we're better than everyone else just no reason to fear the rest IMO.

    TBF IMO Cork at their best would be far too good as well.

    Cork have been extremely unlucky in recent times to be as underrated as they have been. The fact is if they'd been knocked out of the championship in recent years by anyone other than Kerry it would have been Tyrone.

    They are lightyears ahead of the chasing pack imo and are VERY close, if not equal, to Kerry and Tyrone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    Same bull from the Hearld/FM104 types every year...blah blah blah.
    I remember the 2006 semi, 104 were running a competition for tickets "to go and see Dublin thrash Mayo"

    Good God that was sweetness.:P

    (what happened after, we shall not discuss...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    Nalced_irl wrote: »
    People always do one of 2 things, decide the Dubs are sh*te, no better than the weaker teams, not a chance of winning Sam, or they decide like our lovely journalists that we are on the verge of an AI. The truth is, Dublin are a bit behind the top teams in the country. For Dublin to beat teams like Tyrone, Kerry they need to have a great day when the opposition are below par and no Dub would disagree with that. We are in the same boat as the Galways and Corks in my opinion which is below the top teams but battling to equal them. We are in a transition period now so we wont be looking to knock anyone of their perch this year but hopefully in a year or so we can get back in the mix. To say Dublin havent had a chance of winning Sam in the last 4 years is blinkered imo. Say even in the last 6 or so years, how many times have Dublin lost to the eventual champions?? Again, were simply up against better opposition but on a good day with a bit of luck it was certainly possible.

    Original topic anyway, are we overhyped? Absolutely and i think its a major factor in our sub par performances against top opposition. I wouldnt say that the fans or the players believe the hype but it piles pressure on the players. Remember as others have said, who is hyping us? Certainly not the fans. Few are blind to the facts but most can see we are not the best in the country by quite a margin right now. Its people looking to sell their papers etc to the biggest market in the country. So for the arguement about the hype, you are right. Just a pity every single thread about the Dubs ends in a slagging match about things that have nothing to do with the original topic.


    PS. think this is the longest post i ever made here! Hope its not the most non-sensicle! :D

    Spot on post.

    I honestly think Dub fans should tell the Evening Herald to stop the ****e talk on the run up to Dublin matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭corny


    keane2097 wrote: »
    They are lightyears ahead of the chasing pack imo and are VERY close, if not equal, to Kerry and Tyrone.

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    corny wrote: »
    :eek:

    Can I assume your towering intellect is displayed fully in this post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D

    So how mant titles have your county won this past 4 years?
    Most counties are envieous of what Dublin can generate even with the huge pull from other sports in and around Dublin city and county. BTW Dublin are a succesful side. Ok we dont win many All-Irelands but we are in the shake up

    As for the Bandwagon supporters there is probably enough to say in a thread all on its own about them. Which I will start when we reach the point where we will be hearing the complaints of the loyal supporters who cant get tickets or if you want to start it, great.
    Its fair to say at the moment we have a chance of winning Leinster and after that a lot will depend on the day. Dublin are well capable of beating Kerry and Tyrone as are Cork. Kerry and Tyrone would fancy their chances against Dublin but take away last years collapse and Dublin are closer than most give them credit for.
    I actually think last Sunday could could have been a blessing for Dublin as the panel will have gained a lot of experience from the day. When did Dublin last field such an inexperienced team in Cship? Gilroy has a lot to work with and I think will be happy enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    LeoB wrote: »
    So how mant titles have your county won this past 4 years?

    Yes leinster title are a fantastic achievement, its the pinacle of modern day sport - why then then pillar get the door?

    Most counties are envieous of what Dublin can generate even with the huge pull from other sports in and around Dublin city and county.

    You do realise that Dublin also has a population of over one and a half million and yet havent been in an AI since 1995

    As for the Bandwagon supporters there is probably enough to say in a thread all on its own about them. Which I will start when we reach the point where we will be hearing the complaints of the loyal supporters who cant get tickets or if you want to start it, great.

    Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick here I thought you were suggesting that there were folks from outside of Dublin jumping on the bandwagon, I have witnessed at first hand what you are talking about having lived in Dublin for 6 years and yes it is a serious problem

    Its fair to say at the moment we have a chance of winning Leinster and after that a lot will depend on the day. Dublin are well capable of beating Kerry and Tyrone as are Cork. Kerry and Tyrone would fancy their chances against Dublin but take away last years collapse and Dublin are closer than most give them credit for.

    I would agree that Dublin ''on their day'' are a match for anyone but I doubt they are capable of beating say three top teams in sucession, which is what is ultimately required

    I actually think last Sunday could could have been a blessing for Dublin as the panel will have gained a lot of experience from the day. When did Dublin last field such an inexperienced team in Cship? Gilroy has a lot to work with and I think will be happy enough.

    Agree that it will benefit Dublin that they will be written off in some quarters but alot of the new faces I thought were dissapointing and the one who put he's hand up is unfortunately now out for the season, I do think the Dublin team needs re-building and I had hoped that Gilroy would have been told ''ok you have 3/4 years to get us to that next level, develop your own team'' but unfortunately when the going got tough last sunday who did he look to - Jason Sherlock and Ciaran Whelan. Also think Keaney would be a bigger asset to Dublin playing with the small ball - same goes for Shane Ryan.

    Dont attack me these are just my opinions lookin in from the outside :D


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 235 ✭✭Mullet


    murrayp4 wrote: »
    Same bull from the Hearld/FM104 types every year...blah blah blah.
    I remember the 2006 semi, 104 were running a competition for tickets "to go and see Dublin thrash Mayo"

    Good God that was sweetness.:P

    (what happened after, we shall not discuss...)

    Exactly. The said radio station were running a competition for tickets for dublin v meath last sunday. They didnt mention at all in their promo that there was a hurling match on too. A right shower of bandwagoners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer



    Yes leinster title are a fantastic achievement, its the pinacle of modern day sport - why then then pillar get the door?

    You nicely avoided the question there. Care to answer?
    You do realise that Dublin also has a population of over one and a half million and yet havent been in an AI since 1995

    China has a population of 1.3 Billion and yet haven't been able to win a Soccer World Cup ever. It's not as simple as just population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    Buck_Naked wrote: »
    You nicely avoided the question there. Care to answer?



    China has a population of 1.3 Billion and yet haven't been able to win a Soccer World Cup ever. It's not as simple as just population.


    I have to agree on the population thing. Do people realise how many of our country cousins make up the population of Dublin?

    I am not sure of the exact figure but it is a big %.

    Dublin are overhyped by the media not by the majority of their support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    thegen wrote: »
    I have to agree on the population thing. Do people realise how many of our country cousins make up the population of Dublin?

    I am not sure of the exact figure but it is a big %.

    Dublin are overhyped by the media not by the majority of their support.

    GAA is still a minority sport in most parts of Dublin. Probably because the rural born “Christian” Brothers tried to beat it into the working class of Dublin over the years. Thankfully things are changing, huge interest every time the Dubs play. But what will turn a lot of Dubs off is the absolute hatred of all things Dublin from certain country people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    Im a Dublin fan, of avid proportions, who will gladly accept our shortcomings. These shortcomings have been evident, since our lucky escape against Louth in Navan in 1996. We have never really looked like All Ireland Contenders since then (save for 2002, and a ten Minuite patch against Kerry in 2001)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D

    People like you are the ones who give "Dublin Critical" supporters a bad name.

    Your "Bandwagon" comment supports this. Look at the crowds at the leage games this year. Last weekend 75,000 turned out. Kerry fans have a notorious reputation for biding their time before attending any championship game. Most counties have a bandwagon element to it. Its simply due to the size of Dublin Support which pisses others off. Dublin have no more a bandwagon fanbase then anybody else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Het-Field wrote: »
    People like you are the ones who give "Dublin Critical" supporters a bad name.

    Your "Bandwagon" comment supports this. Look at the crowds at the leage games this year. Last weekend 75,000 turned out. Kerry fans have a notorious reputation for biding their time before attending any championship game. Most counties have a bandwagon element to it. Its simply due to the size of Dublin Support which pisses others off. Dublin have no more a bandwagon fanbase then anybody else.

    I already explained my comments re the bandwagon issue above in my reply to Leo it was me miss-interperting Leo's post and also that post was tounge in cheek apologies if i offended anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Buck_Naked wrote: »
    You nicely avoided the question there. Care to answer?



    China has a population of 1.3 Billion and yet haven't been able to win a Soccer World Cup ever. It's not as simple as just population.

    You also ignored 80% of my post :rolleyes:

    As for the China comparison, yes you are right but the difference been the Chineese media or the world media have never touted them as potential world champions and blown their performances out of all porportion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer


    You also ignored 80% of my post :rolleyes:

    As for the China comparison, yes you are right but the difference been the Chineese media or the world media have never touted them as potential world champions and blown their performances out of all porportion

    What points of your post would you like me to address? I notice you have still avoided Leo's question.

    It seems to me that your problem is with the media then. So why bring it up here on a GAA forum. The supporters, players, management etc. have no influence over what the media decide to say.


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