Racist BNP earn not one but two EU seats in UK

CiaranC

scop wrote: »

You just bypassed my questions in favour of a appeal to empathy.

I didnt bypass your question, you insinuated that people who oppose fascism have no idea what its like to be working class.

Dudess

If the BNP's policy was "Britain can't handle unlimited amounts of people coming in - from any country outside the EU, not just the poor, war-torn, non-white, non-English speaking ones - and while it should do its best to provide haven for those fleeing oppression and terror, it simply can't operate a policy of letting every single person in" then yeah, fair points.

Its policy is nothing like that though - it simply doesn't like outsiders... by its own admission.

thelordofcheese

b28 wrote: »

whine, whine whine, random made up bullshit....

And I thought you people encouraged freedom of speech:rolleyes:

Ok, the rest was rambling nonsense, but this...

Firstly there is no such thing as freedom of speech on the internet. None. And definitely not on boards.

second, *if* there were free speech, that wouldn't change a damn thing. You could say whatever you feel like, but in doing so you give other people the same right to comment in whatever manner they feel like on your opinions.

"Abloo Abloo where mah freedom of speech?" is usually the first port of call after someones precious but poorly thought out opinions have just been torn to shreds.

nobody is stopping you from saying these things, they're saying that those things are stupid.

b28

Dudess wrote: »

If the BNP's policy was "Britain can't handle unlimited amounts of people coming in - from any country outside the EU, not just the poor, war-torn, non-white, non-English speaking ones - and while it should do its best to provide haven for those fleeing oppression and terror, it simply can't operate a policy of letting every single person in" then yeah, fair points.

Its policy is nothing like that though - it simply doesn't like outsiders... by its own admission.

What about native Dutch people fleeing their own country because the saturation of the lands because of fleeing muslim populations has made them feel uneasy in the own country?
That can't happen!

b28

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Ok, the rest was rambling nonsense, but this...

Firstly there is no such thing as freedom of speech on the internet. None. And definitely not on boards.

second, *if* there were free speech, that wouldn't change a damn thing. You could say whatever you feel like, but in doing so you give other people the same right to comment in whatever manner they feel like on your opinions.

"Abloo Abloo where mah freedom of speech?" is usually the first port of call after someones precious but poorly thought out opinions have just been torn to shreds.

nobody is stopping you from saying these things, they're saying that those things are stupid.

Look i've moved back here from Germany and Holland and saw the problems they had. You can say what I talk about is random bullsh*t all you like, it doesn't make you look any more right than I am.
You can insult me all you like, that just shows how intolerant you are of other people to be honest and their views.

scop

CiaranC wrote: »

I didnt bypass your question, you insinuated that people who oppose fascism have no idea what its like to be working class.

No I didn't. If I believed that I'd have said it straight. For the record I don't think that is true, but I have no idea why you raise it anyway.

b28

scop wrote: »

No I didn't? If I believed that I'd have said it straight.

These people obviously were never exposed to the continental problems. They dont know what life will be like for their grandkids, leave them off make their mistakes and we'll see what their grandkids views are in 40 years time!

Nodin

b28 wrote: »

Just read this, is this a situation you would welcome with open hands?

But it's a load of crap, so why worry?

scop

b28 wrote: »

These people obviously were never exposed to the continental problems. They dont know what life will be like for their grandkids, leave them off make their mistakes and we'll see what their grandkids views are in 40 years time!

They will have, inadvertently, caused a new rise of fascism in the face of mass immigration. We will be looked back on as the greatest idiots in history.

b28

Nodin wrote: »

But it's a load of crap, so why worry?

How do you know?

b28

scop wrote: »

They will have, inadvertently, caused a new rise of fascism in the face of mass immigration. We will be looked back on as the greatest idiots in history.

Exactly, and the people against this new wave of anti european muslim fascism which will hit europe, will get slammed by idiot posters saying its all a load of crap!
Idiots if you ask me total PC lovin idiots!

Nodin

b28 wrote: »

How do you know?

http://www.rte.ie/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/?sub=AR

http://www.cbsnews.com/

...its absence on the above and many more like them.....

O'TOOLE79

b28 wrote: »

What about native Dutch people fleeing their own country because the saturation of the lands because of fleeing muslim populations has made them feel uneasy in the own country?
That can't happen!

Netherlands is a great place to live(just the weather like ireland sucks)

thelordofcheese

b28 wrote: »

Look i've moved back here from Germany and Holland and saw the problems they had. You can say what I talk about is random bullsh*t all you like, it doesn't make you look any more right than I am.

Hold on there, what does this

well i mean come on.. there's people on this site attacking people because they're right wing; while the same lefties attack people because they're young or use text speak! I mean that's a bit ironic, your defending a different race and being ageist against people at the same time!.

have to do with your claim that you've seen the 'problems' that were going to have.

b28 wrote: »

You can insult me all you like, that just shows how intolerant you are of other people to be honest and their views.

Cry some more, your tears are delicious.

Your fucking opinions are not sacred, and people calling you on unsubstantiated claims is not intolerance.

You're not exactly a shining example of decourm, you've done nothing but whine about "the liberal-left" and paint them as short term myopic fools bent on destorying us all, all garnished with a hint of islamophobia.

You're credibility is pretty fucking low as it stands, try making actual points instead of trying to pedal fear and mistrust.

b28

Nodin wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/?sub=AR

http://www.cbsnews.com/

...its absence on the above and many more like them.....

The lack of content really sums up your spirit!

b28

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Hold on there, what does this



have to do with your claim that you've seen the 'problems' that were going to have.





Cry some more, your tears are delicious.

Your fucking opinions are not sacred, and people calling you on unsubstantiated claims is not intolerance.

You're not exactly a shining example of decourm, you've done nothing but whine about "the liberal-left" and paint them as short term myopic fools bent on destorying us all, all garnished with a hint of islamophobia.

You're credibility is pretty fucking low as it stands, try making actual points instead of trying to pedal fear and mistrust.

LOL

b28

O'TOOLE79 wrote: »

Netherlands is a great place to live(just the weather like ireland sucks)

whats weather got to do with anything? i'm sure the weather doesn't cause war!

Acacia

b28 wrote: »

LOL

Wow, great comeback. You're really showing the lefties up as idiots here. :rolleyes:

O'TOOLE79

b28 wrote: »

whats weather got to do with anything? i'm sure the weather doesn't cause war!

You're making it out that both Netherlands and Germany are some kind of hell holes where people are forced to flee when well , thats just wrong.

b28

Acacia wrote: »

Wow, great comeback. You're really showing the lefties up as idiots here. :rolleyes:

yeah, im talking to the "average to above average" IQ Irish person, on boards.ie which generally has a politically correct clan of people who stand up for each other.
I am not even bothered to argue because whats the point with you people?

You're not the average person anyway. Most people are out enjoying themselves now, which is what I'm going to do now.
So enjoy getting bad posture on your computer chairs, taking turns at ranting insults at someone because they have a different view.
Nobody agreed to anything I've said which I find hard to believe, you just disliked me totally and ranted negatively against everything I said which is as interesting as it gets here.

b28

O'TOOLE79 wrote: »

You're making it out that both Netherlands and Germany are some kind of hell holes where people are forced to flee when well , thats just wrong.

No i'm not actually. spend some time living there!
Holland and Germany are much nicer and have nicer people(natives) in everyway, than Ireland.

Acacia

b28 wrote: »

yeah, im talking to the "average to above average" IQ Irish person, on boards.ie which generally has a politically correct clan of people who stand up for each other.
I am not even bothered to argue because whats the point with you people?

You're not the average person anyway. Most people are out enjoying themselves now, which is what I'm going to do now.
So enjoy getting bad posture on your computer chairs, taking turns at ranting insults at someone because they have a different view.
Nobody agreed to anything I've said which I find hard to believe, you just disliked me totally and ranted negatively against everything I said which is as interesting as it gets here.

Oh boo hoo... you might want to start playing this when you're off enjoying yourself, away from us mean people...

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Nodin

b28 wrote: »

The lack of content really sums up your spirit!

Wheres the subject matter you refer to, on those sites?

b28 wrote: »

You're not the average person anyway. Most people are out enjoying themselves now, which is what I'm going to do now.
So enjoy getting bad posture on your computer chairs, taking turns at ranting insults at someone because they have a different view.
Nobody agreed to anything I've said which I find hard to believe, you just disliked me totally and ranted negatively against everything I said which is as interesting as it gets here. !

Leaving cert going badly then?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

b28 wrote: »

Look i've moved back here from Germany and Holland and saw the problems they had. You can say what I talk about is random bullsh*t all you like, it doesn't make you look any more right than I am.
You can insult me all you like, that just shows how intolerant you are of other people to be honest and their views.

What part of Germany we talking about here? And what problems, specifically?

Sean@boards.ie

Is the whole point of democracy not that you can vote for who you want?

Should the BNP be banned?

Why can't people express their wishes by voting BNP?

scop

b28 wrote: »

Exactly, and the people against this new wave of anti european muslim fascism which will hit europe, will get slammed by idiot posters saying its all a load of crap!
Idiots if you ask me total PC lovin idiots!

I actually meant the rise if indigenous European fascism in response to Islam, but Islamic fascism is also a problem.

Executive Steve

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Many people believe that Islam as a far flung desert religion, has no place in the western world. Thats Democracy.

I'm guessing you're not a Christian then?

:pac:

thelordofcheese

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

Is the whole point of democracy not that you can vote for who you want?

Should the BNP be banned?

Why can't people express their wishes by voting BNP?

They can, that doesn't mean we have to think well of them.

I'd never go so far as to ban the BNP, that'd do more harm than possible good. The harsh light of public life will be an anathema to the BNP and parties like them.

i just can't fathom how anyone can look at a party who's core theme is "fuck anyone who's not like us" and go "sign me the fuck up"

dr.bollocko

b28 wrote: »

Exactly, and the people against this new wave of anti european muslim fascism which will hit europe, will get slammed by idiot posters saying its all a load of crap!
Idiots if you ask me total PC lovin idiots!

b28 wrote: »

yeah, im talking to the "average to above average" IQ Irish person, on boards.ie which generally has a politically correct clan of people who stand up for each other.
I am not even bothered to argue because whats the point with you people?

You're not the average person anyway. Most people are out enjoying themselves now, which is what I'm going to do now.
So enjoy getting bad posture on your computer chairs, taking turns at ranting insults at someone because they have a different view.
Nobody agreed to anything I've said which I find hard to believe, you just disliked me totally and ranted negatively against everything I said which is as interesting as it gets here.

Banned. Abusing other posters. Trolling. Insert your own reason here.

nlgbbbblth

I spent a bit of time in London during the late 1980s / early 1990s.

On a couple of occasions I was subjected to verbal and near-physical abuse by known BNP / NF members.

Why? Because I was Irish. No other reason.

The tolerance for those BNP f*ckers on this thread - by Irish people - astounds me.

Sean@boards.ie

thelordofcheese wrote: »

They can, that doesn't mean we have to think well of them.

I'd never go so far as to ban the BNP, that'd do more harm than possible good. The harsh light of public life will be an anathema to the BNP and parties like them.

i just can't fathom how anyone can look at a party who's core theme is "fuck anyone who's not like us" and go "sign me the fuck up"

I see were you are coming from, who is this "we" you speak of? Are they a bit like the "them" you speak of? Segregating a bit of society based on their ideologies?

markopantelic

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

I spent a bit of time in London during the late 1980s / early 1990s.

On a couple of occasions I was subjected to verbal and near-physical abuse by known BNP / NF members.

Why? Because I was Irish. No other reason.

The tolerance for those BNP f*ckers on this thread - by Irish people - astounds me.

LOL ye man exactly, pathetic really, 'irish patriots' indeed. im looking at you storm*****!!!!

Sean@boards.ie

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

I spent a bit of time in London during the late 1980s / early 1990s.

On a couple of occasions I was subjected to verbal and near-physical abuse by known BNP / NF members.

Why? Because I was Irish. No other reason.

The tolerance for those BNP f*ckers on this thread - by Irish people - astounds me.

Once while walking up a steet in Luton a car with four Asians once drove past me, one bloke spat on me and called me white trash, I think it was cromwell raod now that i remember.

I doubt three quaters of the people in this thread understand how much black people in England dispise Asians and like wise.

Not all about the white folk people!

thelordofcheese

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

I see were you are coming from, who is this "we" you speak of? Are they a bit like the "them" you speak of? Segregating a bit of society based on their ideologies?

We - would be people on this thread who have registered our dislike of the BNP and it's policies and those who support them

Them, in this case, would be parties with ideologies like the BNP, so to a lesser degree UKIP.

I know you're trying to be clever but try harder, picking up on shorthand words and trying to make them look more sinister than they are? Please. Have a little self-respect.

nlgbbbblth

markopantelic wrote: »

LOL ye man exactly, pathetic really, 'irish patriots' indeed. im looking at you storm*****!!!!

same 'patriots' buying Oirish Sun and Oirish Daily Mail.

Sean@boards.ie

thelordofcheese wrote: »

We - would be people on this thread who have registered our dislike of the BNP and it's policies and those who support them

Them, in this case, would be parties with ideologies like the BNP, so to a lesser degree UKIP.

I know you're trying to be clever but try harder, picking up on shorthand words and trying to make them look more sinister than they are? Please. Have a little self-respect.

So we, would be the people who have the right to not vote BNP and express disgust.

But them, is a party like the BNP but not the people who voted for them or people who would be those who have registered their like for the party?

Not making thngs look sinister by the way and I object to your sky news like acusation. Just asking some questions and trying to find answers.

Riddle101

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

Is the whole point of democracy not that you can vote for who you want?

Should the BNP be banned?

Why can't people express their wishes by voting BNP?

People can express they're views all they want. But you can't stop others from diagreeing with them. Especially when their views are insulting to people. I find the BNP to be nothing more then a clan of racist cnuts, who are just fanning the flames of hate by using the Recession as a way to bring their party into full gear. Just remember this is how Adolf Hitler came to power as well, and look how bad that turned out to be. All i'm saying is, people have opinions, but that dosen't mean their opinion is going to go down with everyone else.

Morlar

toomevara wrote: »

We're all absolutely shocked that 10% of the Yorks electorate voted for these

Is this result really that much of a shock ?

scop wrote: »

Perhaps the left-wingers here might turn to themselves and ask what has turned people onto the BNP? Or maybe some soul-searching is needed among liberals? Do you represent normal, everyday people or do you assume you do because your opinions chime with the acceptable line?

Maybe, just maybe, your worldview has negative effects in communities you view as chav-invested? Maybe your worldview is not really in the interests of the people?

Does this even occur to the liberal-left?

My guess is no. Too busy foaming at the mouth & either throwing eggs or cheering it on to bother with so much as a nano second of personal reflection on the reasons behind these results (eu wide results or the uk in particular). Probably working out how to make 'dey turk our jerbs' sound funny again while continuing to miss the irony of it.

I think some people find it less complicated to dismiss all of the eu hard right voters as knuckle draggers, intellectually challenged etc then go back to living in the comfort of glib denial. It's an attitude that kind of reminds me a little bit of the greens before the election. 'Problem, whats that you say problem ??'

markopantelic

i have to ask a question, if there was an anti-immigrant protest on o'connell st. surely i would be within my rights to pelt the neo nazis with eggs or peferably bullets?

funny thing is tho irish nazis couldnt tie their own shoe laces, some lad attended a meeting and he was undercover for some paper, what a legend that man is.

asdasd

if there was an anti-immigrant protest on o'connell st. surely i would be within my rights to pelt the neo nazis with eggs or peferably bullets?

you have an over enthusiastic view of your "rights". No.

markopantelic

sometimes violence is the only thing that these people understand. we're not dealing with ordinary citizens here. we all know that the nazi movement in dublin is non existent, but if the day was ever to come.

Sean@boards.ie

Riddle101 wrote: »

But you can't stop others from diagreeing with them. Especially when their views are insulting to people. I find the BNP to be nothing more then a clan of racist cnuts, who are just fanning the flames of hate by using the Recession as a way to bring their party into full gear. Just remember this is how Adolf Hitler came to power as well, and look how bad that turned out to be. All i'm saying is, people have opinions, but that dosen't mean their opinion is going to go down with everyone else.

I agree.



"who are just fanning the flames of hate by using the Recession as a way to bring their party into full...."

Yeah, using the recession to make a point, one during an election.

We are lucky we don't have that here.

My name is URL

markopantelic wrote: »

i have to ask a question, if there was an anti-immigrant protest on o'connell st. surely i would be within my rights to pelt the neo nazis with eggs or peferably bullets?

funny thing is tho irish nazis couldnt tie their own shoe laces, some lad attended a meeting and he was undercover for some paper, what a legend that man is.

sometimes violence is the only thing that these people understand. we're not dealing with ordinary citizens here. we all know that the nazi movement in dublin is non existent, but if the day was ever to come.

No, you're biased

apparently

Sean@boards.ie

Riddle101 wrote: »

People can express they're views all they want. But you can't stop others from diagreeing with them. Especially when their views are insulting to people. I find the BNP to be nothing more then a clan of racist cnuts, who are just fanning the flames of hate by using the Recession as a way to bring their party into full gear. Just remember this is how Adolf Hitler came to power as well, and look how bad that turned out to be. All i'm saying is, people have opinions, but that dosen't mean their opinion is going to go down with everyone else.

"Their" not They're"

Can't


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help.

Pleas!?

markopantelic

Its funny seeing stormfront try to struggle together to create a BNP esque party, 90% of the members of SF Ireland are just taking the piss, I know because I have an account on there lol, greetings compradres, but which user am i?

Stercus Accidit

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

"Their" not They're"

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help.

Pleas!?

For the freshest results for your irony, use bold!

asdasd

Sean@boards.ie, are you an English teacher?

Terry

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

"Their" not They're"

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Pleas!?

Help has arrived.
Your (sic) banned.

Riddle101

Sean@boards.ie wrote: »

I agree.



"who are just fanning the flames of hate by using the Recession as a way to bring their party into full...."

Yeah, using the recession to make a point, one during an election.

We are lucky we don't have that here.

I'm not saying we don't have it here either, it's standard politics to use the misgivens of people as a way of gaining the upperhand. but I'm just saying, people should be weary of what they're voting for because anger leads to hate, and hate leads to death and the BNP are using anger and hate to implement their views into society. If the BNP can win 2 seats in the European Parliment, then that means they could win more if another elections comes around.

asdasd

well tbh bro im anti-statist, so take from that what you will i have no connection with israel

fairy nuff.