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Lisbon Treaty, full text.

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  • 09-06-2009 2:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm tired of No voters saying they don't understand the Treaty or haven't even read the treaty. So I decided to post this:
    http://www.libertas.eu/docs/The_Lisbon_Treaty.pdf
    The reader friendly version of the Lisbon treaty.
    enjoy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    From the Libertas site? I wonder if their version is, shall we say "modified"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,398 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    The reader friendly version of the Lisbon treaty.
    enjoy.

    and who reader friendlied it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Rabble


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I'm tired of No voters saying they don't understand the Treaty or haven't even read the treaty. So I decided to post this:
    http://www.libertas.eu/docs/The_Lisbon_Treaty.pdf
    The reader friendly version of the Lisbon treaty.
    enjoy.

    Reader 'friendly' - cant be a legal text then!

    Also far as I can remember a lot of damage was done for the Yes campaign by politicians advocating Yes but admitting they had not read it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    and who reader friendlied it ?

    Jens-Peter Bonde, as far as I recall.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭USE


    This guy is participating in the June movement (highly eurosceptical) and is a member of Libertas. Now I wonder if he has managed to keep objectivity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Jens-Peter Bonde wrote that ?
    Well in that case I'm begining to doubt it myself.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I'm tired of Yes voters, including our own Taoiseach, saying they haven't read the treaty (and therefore are going on other peoples understanding alone).

    Please do something about that.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Rb wrote: »
    I'm tired of Yes voters, including our own Taoiseach, saying they haven't read the treaty (and therefore are going on other peoples understanding alone).

    Please do something about that.

    Thanks.
    There's nothing at all wrong about going on somebody else's opinion if they are trustworthy and in a position to know what they're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    There's nothing at all wrong about going on somebody else's opinion if they are trustworthy and in a position to know what they're talking about.
    Oh and that would surely extend to impartial and without vested interest, right?

    Because surely someone with a vested interest will have a biased opinion on it.

    I'm sure many No voters drew their opinions on what trustworthy and educated friends/family said regardless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Rb wrote: »
    I'm tired of all voters, including our own Taoiseach, saying they haven't read the treaty (and therefore are going on other peoples understanding alone).

    Please do something about that.

    Thanks.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Rb wrote: »
    Oh and that would surely extend to impartial and without vested interest, right?

    Because surely someone with a vested interest will have a biased opinion on it.

    I'm sure many No voters drew their opinions on what trustworthy and educated friends/family said regardless.
    Trustworthy perhaps, educated? The polls sure don't think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    libertas - no thanks ill stick with the offical ones, cant trust one read by a no side version or a yes side either

    calling people uneducated - how nice
    polls - care to mention or link to said polls?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    If someone doesn't trust libertas and want to have the full text from credible source, here it is:

    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ:C:2007:306:SOM:EN:HTML for HTML version

    http://bookshop.europa.eu/eubookshop/download.action?fileName=FXAC07306ENC_002.pdf&eubphfUid=534817&catalogNbr=FX-AC-07-306-EN-C for downloadable PDF


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