Since FG & Lab will lead the next gov, who will be the ministers?

destroyer

How about rating each member of your prospective Cabinet out of 10 and comparing it to the present one to see if you believe a change of government would be a good thing?

eg Mary Coughlan ...1 Richard Bruton.......7

Brian Lenihan........2 Richard Bruton.......8 or Joan Burton ...7

Brendan Smith......0 Phil Hogan ........6

Mary Harney.......1 James Reilly .........5

Sh1t we need a new government !

dave-higgz

Ok so assuming it's a FF/Lab government only some things are certain:

Taoiseach Enda Kenny

Tánaiste Eamonn Gilmore (ministry unknown IMO)

Minister for Finance Richard Bruton (possibly George Lee)

• Minister for Health Dr James Riley (Universal Health is the cornerstone of FG's policy and they'll want their man in the job)

• Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment George Lee or Leo Varadkar

Everything else could change and all the other ministries are open to front bench representatives from both parties and from non front bench TD's.

Both George Lee and Leo Varadkar are relatively inexperienced and so I believe either one of them could take the job. What's clear is that the loser will get a junior ministry. George Lee has unemployment at the top of his priority list (he's even considering having his clinics at dole queues!) so he definitely has a shoe in there.

Here are the other people who I believe will have a seat at the cabinet table.

Labour:
Joan Burton
Jan O'Sullivan
Rurai Quinn

FG:
Olivia Mitchell
Simon Coveney
Michael Ring
Brian Hayes

ninty9er

• Minister for Health Dr James Riley (Universal Health is the cornerstone of FG's policy and they'll want their man in the job)

The man who negotiated the "gold-plated" medical card for the IMO, literally raping the state, is not at all the right person to deal with reform of the health service.

A doctor might be the right person the run a health service, but there's too much of a conflict of interest to have him reform it. Universal healthcare may be the cornerstone of FG's "policy", but in power, with a Doctor in the top office at Hawkins House, universal health care is about as likely as this forum becoming mainly pro-FF any time soon.

lostexpectation

arn't ruari quinn and pat rabbitte and howlin a bit old and already been there done that, you guys have not named anyone new from lab bar sean sherlock!

sean sherlock looks me of ff like barry andrews,over eager but inept and wet behind the ears

heres their current 'shadow cabinets'/spokepersons
http://www.labour.ie/peopleandplaces/spokespersons.html
http://www.finegael.ie/representatives/front/index.cfm/pkey/655

wouldn't environment and local government go to joanna tuffy ?

yes re ministerial geography we need one of those underlit tables with a map of ireland, avatars and long pushing sticks,

dave-higgz

ninty9er wrote: »

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The man who negotiated the "gold-plated" medical card for the IMO, literally raping the state, is not at all the right person to deal with reform of the health service.

A doctor might be the right person the run a health service, but there's too much of a conflict of interest to have him reform it. Universal healthcare may be the cornerstone of FG's "policy", but in power, with a Doctor in the top office at Hawkins House, universal health care is about as likely as this forum becoming mainly pro-FF any time soon.

Well sure if FG and Universal Healthcare fails then you'll have your pro-FF forum won't you

Victor

destroyer wrote: »

If he gets the same vote as he did last Friday and brings in a running mate (or two) Kenny wont dare leave him out, also FG are very concious of the importance of keeping a strong presence in Dublin where they were nearly wiped out under M Noonan.

FG currently have 3 TDs in 4-seater Dublin South. Meritorious or not, Lee won't be bringing anyone else unless he moves.

Zuiderzee

Everyone seems to pencil in Richard Bruton for Finance? Joan Burton is better suited IMO.

Leo Varadkar is a Doctor, been through the system in recent times - better for Health.

Sherlock I believe would be good on the environment, real interest in re-developing the sugar beet industry with relation to biofuels/ethanol, lets face it- he cant do any worse than the Greens have.

lostexpectation

is environment really the right minstery for redeveloping sugerbeet, agri surely. or shared junior with agri and eviron

people keep leaving out the local government part

destroyer

Zuiderzee wrote: »

Everyone seems to pencil in Richard Bruton for Finance? Joan Burton is better suited IMO.

It doesn't matter who is best suited, the job will be decided on the relative strengths of the two parties in government, that's just the way it is.

Badabing

Victor wrote: »

FG currently have 3 TDs in 4-seater Dublin South. Meritorious or not, Lee won't be bringing anyone else unless he moves.

I don't been to be bitantic but Dublin South is a 5 seater.

dave-higgz

Victor wrote: »

FG currently have 3 TDs in 4-seater Dublin South. Meritorious or not, Lee won't be bringing anyone else unless he moves.

It's a 5 seater and it'll be very hard to keep all 3 seats next General Election. Dublin South is the only Dublin constituency where FG has 2 seats or more.
In Dublin Central, Dublin Mid-West and Dublin North-West there is no Fine Gael representation in the dail while Fianna Fail has a seat in all 12 Dublin constituencies, with 7 of them having 2 FF seats.

mick_irl

mick_irl wrote: »

George Lee is not ready for a full ministerial position yet in my opinion, but would be a Minister of State at Finance or Enterprise.

Rubbish.
George Lee is more qualified to be Finance Minister than any T.D in the Dáil.
I'd propose him for Finance minister and Bruton for enterprise.

That would be grabbing the Bull by the Horns.

Joan Burton taking on the new role of deputy finance minister which would be a full position in Cabinet with voting rights.
A fully justifiable new position having abolished a few more of the superflous junior ministries.

Teamwork Folks Teamwork.

Zuiderzee

lostexpectation wrote: »

is environment really the right minstery for redeveloping sugerbeet, agri surely. or shared junior with agri and eviron

people keep leaving out the local government part

I think that it should be part of environments remit to find and develop cleaner, indigenous forms of energy, be it wind, wave or water.

The sugarbeet idea is to develop ethanol, creating a supply of cleaner fuel, and it is something that Sherlock has been involved in.
I was impressed by him and his ideas and views on this, its also a way of invigorating a weakening agri sector.