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Pat2107

Will they survive the Recession? Opinions Welcome

TheInquisitor

Pat2107 wrote: »

Opinions Welcome

What else do you expect to get from boards?

And yes of course they will survive. (When they stop broadcasting rubbish like traffic blues that is)

Real FM

What else would everyone have to constantly whinge about if it did close?

Max Power1

RTE is the state broadcaster - it will not be allowed to "not survive", if there is financial difficulties RTE will be bailed out - probably followed by a licence fee hike :rolleyes:

FlutterinBantam

Licence fee hike:eek:

Epic fail there mate,recession an' all that.

Cut the costs, there's your answer.

Stop paying those punters king's ransoms for doing ordinary work which competitors couldn't even offer 50% less.

Fat swine got their noses in the trough big time when the swill was flying,no one thought about the bad days,did they?

Now they are stuck with prima donnas who won't play ball.

Cull from the top,only answer.

As a management consultant that would be my immediate initial process.

Clear the kip out.

Real FM

...and there you go.:rolleyes:

deadhead13

Real FM wrote: »

...and there you go.:rolleyes:

If you have an opposing view.....lets hear it.

bevan619

It don't matter to me. TV3 is way better anyway. RTE is too old fashioned. Maybe if they moderned it up a bit then they would get more viewers. And of course if they got some good shows.


And then of course they have Gerry Ryan and Ryan Tubridy crying that they have to take a paycut from their half a million euro salary. Anyone would be happy with even a tenth of that.

FlutterinBantam

bevan619 wrote: »

It don't matter to me. TV3 is way better anyway. RTE is too old fashioned. Maybe if they moderned it up a bit then they would get more viewers. And of course if they got some good shows.


And then of course they have Gerry Ryan and Ryan Tubridy crying that they have to take a paycut from their half a million euro salary. Anyone would be happy with even a tenth of that.

No it's not.

Bottom line : RTE unit costs are way out of line.

There is the problem

Why can some people not see that.?

Real FM

I already did in one of your other threads ranting about wages.

deadhead13

Real FM wrote: »

I already did in one of your other threads ranting about wages.

Do you think RTE is above criticism?

Real FM

Certainly not, any organisation is open to criticism. This rtadio forum are starting to sound like a broken record though. We've got the same people making the same points and posts under different threads as I predicted in my first post in this thread. You didn't dissapoint!

deadhead13

All you seem to be doing in the same threads is whinging about other people whinging.... and of course this ":rolleyes:"

FlutterinBantam

Well what is your view then on RTE

Are you a taxpayer?

Do you think it is sound economic policy to pay people like Marian Finucane €450k pa.as instanced by the newsprint media.

What do YOU think?

Aidric

bevan619 wrote: »

It don't matter to me. TV3 is way better anyway..

This must be a wind up. RTE has failings but to call TV3 a better provider is taking the piss.

tSubh Dearg

RealFM, how about instead of making jibes at the other posters, you acutally contribute something to the debate. If you feel you've already done this somewhere else, you're welcome to not take part in the discussion at all.

Any more snide comments from anyone in this thread will result in an infraction at the minimum.

Real FM

Sorry, I won't add to this as I've already added to the debate and made my points clearly in the thread over the past few days. When the next one pops up tomorrow or the next day I'll keep stum.

deadhead13

An Interesting Irish Times article on RTE's current situation....

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2009/0613/1224248747528.html

FlutterinBantam

Interesting indeed.

Goan seems to have showered the "stars" with largess in the good times and now is getting shirty when people legitimately ask why.

Only one result-GO and quickly.

Max Power1

Max Power1 wrote: »

RTE is the state broadcaster - it will not be allowed to "not survive", if there is financial difficulties RTE will be bailed out - probably followed by a licence fee hike :rolleyes:

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Licence fee hike:eek:

Epic fail there mate,recession an' all that.

Cut the costs, there's your answer.

Stop paying those punters king's ransoms for doing ordinary work which competitors couldn't even offer 50% less.

Fat swine got their noses in the trough big time when the swill was flying,no one thought about the bad days,did they?

Now they are stuck with prima donnas who won't play ball.

Cull from the top,only answer.

As a management consultant that would be my immediate initial process.

Clear the kip out.

No i totally agree - i was just suggesting what WOULD probably happen in the case of financial difficulties at RTE, rather than what i think SHOULD happen!!

FlutterinBantam

Ok I get your drift now.

Even Cowen would be savvy enough to realise that the electorate would not accept licence fee increase given the level of pay and conditions in Montrose.

It will be interesting, and shows the paucity of management who allowed costs to spiral in the boom time and never ever ,it seems, considered the fallout when the balloon burst.

RTE coming in for a no flaps landing in my opinion.

Costs should NEVER have risen to the level they now are, even an ordinary Joe like myself who has been beating the drum for yonks had foreseen that.

Ultimatum is the answer, wage cuts or get out.

bevan619

Aidric wrote: »

This must be a wind up. RTE has failings but to call TV3 a better provider is taking the piss.

Not really. I find that they show better movies and better programs.

And they don't pay boring people (that's you Tubs and Gerry) half a million a year.

homemade

RTE wil be around forever! they announced they would be closed by October to get the staff to take a pay cut (and it worked), next they will be after the taxpayer to pay more for the licence to help cope with the 68 million deficit!

I have heard all of their excuse and none of them work.

Fulton Crown

Look ! Let's get real here - RTE to close ? No Sir ! as a previous poster has written.

Just a few facts - we are a small nation - with a population similiar to that of greater Birmingham (Go the Blues !).

We have a state broadcasting service where costs AT THE TOP have been allowed to get out of control.

This is what always happens in a State Supported organisation - especially in one where creativity is as important as sound business sense.

I would opine that the management structure is seriously bloated both in terms of numbers and remuneration.

I would also opine that any management who allowed salaries of the levels available to Kenny/Ryan/Finucane/Tubridy/O'callaghan etc to develop is seriously incompetent.

The Board of RTE.?..Ah the Board ! There to keep an eye..to oversee...to curb the worst management excesses ?

No Sir ...like Anglo...like Allied....like Nationwide...like BOI.....like IL&P..nowhere to be seen my friends ...nowhere to be seen....

The ordinary staffers in RTE are now picking up the peices...paying for ongoing lack of ability to face down these fat cats.

But why would they face them down ? Arn't they fat cats themselves...

No my friends the sun will never go down on the land of the ligger..the pink shirt and the cravat....