[US] True Blood - Season 2 [** Spoilers **]

missingtime

basquille wrote: »

DON'T watch the promo to next week's show.. some mild spoilers in it (OBVIOUSLY) but enough to somewhat take the fun out of waiting!

Damn my feeble brain and it's longing to know what happens next!

Oh why did you do that! I can't even read the program synopsis of shows.

Basq

missingtime wrote: »

Oh why did you do that! I can't even read the program synopsis of shows.

Cos I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo weak!

tvnutz

I always watch the promos. Can't help myself and they do wet your appetite for next week.

J-blk

I try to avoid them - especially with the cliffhangers on this show, even reading a plot synopsis for next week would be pretty spoilerrific .

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tvnutz wrote: »

And also this is the weirdest thing that hopefully someone can help me out with. I was looking at Michelle Forbe's imdb page,because lets face it,she is amazing and I see a credit for "Love is the Drug". That sounds familiar so I click on it and it is that Irish show I remember being on a few years ago. Never watched it,but did anyone else? Was she actually in it? Wonder why she would be in some Irish show.

I was in a couple of episodes of that as an extra (had lines but they were cut before the show aired because of time restraints :mad:) - fairly certain she was not in it, but it is a good 5 or 6 years ago, so I could be wrong. I think I have it lying around on vhs at home, so I might have a look through out of curiosity if I can find it. I know there's a film with the same name though, so that would be more likely.

Anyway, in regards to True Blood, I finally caught up and can now join in the discussion. Oddly enough, I only watched the season 1 finale yesterday, but the Rene revelation seems like a lifetime ago - what an excellent series.
I actually don't care much for the Maryann, Eggs, Tara storyline, but if it goes somewhere it should be good and I do like the way Andy and Sam are involved with it. I also don't particularly care for the whole Lorena storyline either, there's already enough going on at the moment - they don't need to add her at the moment really.
Jason was epic in the latest episode. The Judas line was brilliant, as was the I have been to heaven line.
As for that shocking cliffhanger, I really don't know what to expect, but hope that Jason, Eric, Godric and Sookie make it away safely.

tvnutz

CaptainNegative wrote: »

I was in a couple of episodes of that as an extra (had lines but they were cut before the show aired because of time restraints :mad:) - fairly certain she was not in it, but it is a good 5 or 6 years ago, so I could be wrong. I think I have it lying around on vhs at home, so I might have a look through out of curiosity if I can find it. I know there's a film with the same name though, so that would be more likely.

Her Imdb page also says she was in an episode of Holby City,if that is true it is in the UK so its possible she did an Irish show. But I think some things on imdb are user submitted so both could be wrong. If you get a chance to look at those videos let us know!

pickarooney

Most references to her appearance on teh show are just copied from one another, but this one seems to have been put together independently. http://www.whosdatedwho.com/topic/6236/love-is-the-drug-2.htm

Could be a mix-up with this chick either.

tvnutz

pickarooney wrote: »

Could be a mix-up with this chick either.

That's probably what it is!

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That was quite anti-climatic after last week's cliffhanger. Still quality stuff, but at the same time it felt like a bit of a filler episode. At least the Maryann storyline is moving forward. Damn it - a whole week before the next episode....

Kirby

CaptainNegative wrote: »

That was quite anti-climatic after last week's cliffhanger. Still quality stuff, but at the same time it felt like a bit of a filler episode. At least the Maryann storyline is moving forward. Damn it - a whole week before the next episode....

Dunno, didn't think it was filler. I found it a very good episode. Some great scenes, storyline moving forward, character growth, all that jazz. Stuff you don't normally find with filler eps.

I do wish the maryann storyline would get moving though. Its probably because I hate the Tara character and actor, but I'm finding all her scenes boring as hell.

Handsome Bob

Damn, I was really hoping that Godric would go back with Eric, Sookie, and Bill after being fired. I can't believe that he has literally bitten the dust so soon after his debut.

Good episode, but I've seen better.

_JOE_

I enjoyed the episode myself, though i did see the godric death coming as he was clearly to old and powerful to be a small part of future storylines...at 2000 years old, it would prevent future development of characters that are to be portrayed as more powerful...

sophya

I liked the episode. It wasn't as good as last weeks though. I loved Godric and was sad to see him go. The last scene was moving especially the conversation between Sookie and Godric - "In this I see God". Allan Hyde played it to perfection.

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sophya wrote: »

Allan Hyde played it to perfection.

For a moment I was convinced Ryder Strong (Shawn from Boy Meets World) was playing Godric. He's the spitting image of him.
On second thoughts I was more impressed with the episode than I had initially thought. At 6am in the morning I overlooked some of the important plot points, like the Eric/Sookie thing, and had completely forgotten about Sam going into Andy's department, when I posted this morning. That's definitely going somewhere.

tvnutz

Damn I liked Godric,was hoping for more storylines with him,but at the same time it was very moving. It was showing the downside to immortality,he let himself get taken by the fellowship,as a type of suicide attempt on one level. He was tired,2000 years and he had seen everything and gotten tired of living I guess.He thought more like a human than a vampire after so long. It was a beautiful scene at the end,and Eric begging him not to do it was also quite sad.

I really like how Eric tricked Sookie into drinking his blood and now she has a connection with him. That will be interesting. Hoyt's mother is a pain in hole,really annoying redneck. It was funny when Hoyt is listing her hates-"African Americans","Ssshhh...that one's a secret!"

Sam going to Andy for help will be interesting now that Mary-Ann has the whole town after him. I think this whole storyline seems to be moving so slow because they are waiting for Sookie,Bill etc to return to Bon Temps before it comes to a head. I assume that is what will happen anyway.

A lot slower than last weeks obviously since last weeks was so fast paced,but still a great episode.

ixoy

Still really enjoyed it, but count me as another who was sad to see Godric go so quickly. Having said that his suicide, such as it was, was in keeping with his character who was so very tired of everything - all the conflict and hurt. Good final scene.

I LOL'ed at Eric tricking Sookie and it makes an interesting angle for the romantic triangle. Has Sookie not drank Bill's blood? Does it not raise questions about whether he feelings for him are fully genuine?

I thought the MaryAnn storyline did move this week - she now is able to raise her own small army from the orgy. The Tara/Eggs bit is still slow. It was good to see Lafayette find some of his old fire again - just in time for the finale no doubt.

Basq

ixoy wrote: »

Has Sookie not drank Bill's blood?

She's drank it on more than one occasion AFAIK.

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basquille wrote: »

She's drank it on more than one occasion AFAIK.

I think that question was rhetorical.

Basq

CaptainNegative wrote: »

I think that question was rhetorical.

You're "rhetorical"! :P

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basquille wrote: »

You're "rhetorical"! :P

Yes I am.

Kirby

ixoy wrote: »

Has Sookie not drank Bill's blood? Does it not raise questions about whether he feelings for him are fully genuine?.

Partly, but she did approach him in the bar at the start. And it's more to do with the fact that she couldn't read his thoughts and could relax because of it. Him being the first person she encountered that she didn't know what they were thinking.

missingtime

The first 10 minutes of this show were epic. Eric played a blinder this episode. Really enjoyed his part with sookie sucking the silver out of him.

After that start it tended to calm down a bit and the episode ended on a bit of a whimper.

The Tara storyline did move forward a good bit but its can get a bit annoying where there are too many characters involved.

Dissapointed as well by Godric dying; thought we might have seen some back story with him and Eric.

Basq

Don't know how anyone could consider this episode filler.. so many superb scenes:

- Eric tricking Sookie
- Lafayette and Tara's Mum facing up to Tara, Mary Ann and Eggs
- Godric's suicide just looked damn impressive.

Lafayette is back with a bang alright.. and Alexander Skarsgard (Eric) was absolutely superb in this episode!

Was unfortunate to see Godric go alright.. but to be honest, his presence on screen did somewhat annoy me - too young, too coy and not particular sinister (quietly intense but definitely lacking something). Just my opinion mind!

Just 3 episodes left!

tvnutz

Another great moment was when the Newlins were on tv and Sarah going on about fighting for daytime and Christmas and Easter Eggs and Steve getting really annoyed until they end up bickering on tv. "I hate your hair".Funny stuff

Also cool to see Sam turn into a fly,didn't think he would be able to turn into something so small.

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Watched the promo for next week - looks quite epic, but doesn't give anything away that we weren't expecting. The final 3 episodes look to be amazing.

titan18

I didn't enjoy the episode as much as last weeks but I think the change in style emphasised last week's more and the Fellowship of the Sun's actions.Makes the suicide bombing and everything that they are doing stand out more.

If this episode followed on from last weeks and kept the same style and tempo,maybe having the vampires take revenge or something,I think it would have lessened the season as a whole.

Thought the ending with Godric,Eric and Sookie was one of the most powerful moments I've seen on TV too.Eric in particular was fantastic then.

Promo looks good for next week too.

J-blk

A bit of a slow burner, but not bad at all - I'm guessing a lot of what was shown in this episode will play into the finale (and even next season possibly for a couple of things, at least in regard to Eric-Sookie-Bill).

Lots of crying all around in this episode too, both from humans and vampires...

So are Maryann's powers now at a point where she can instantly control any human? Cause I'm pretty sure both the sheriff and Hoyt's mom were never at one of her little "raves" or anywhere near her before, yet she controlled them pretty much instantly...

Layfayette vs Eggs was great - about time someone kicked his a**...

Block (8

J-blk wrote: »

Layfayette vs Eggs was great - about time someone kicked his a**...

I thought yeah this is gonna be a good fight but was kinda over pretty fast

Now that we know about Godric intentionally being captured by the fellowship I still don't understand why the big guy who was going to rape sookie said "it's me Godric" was put in.
I first thought there was something much more to Godric that he had some masterplan, surely it has to be signifcant in some way.

jor el

J-blk wrote: »

A bit of a slow burner

Not at his age, he went very quick....

I liked the episode, even if I didn't expect Godric to die so soon. It was appropriate though, as he had already had enough of it, and was ready to give up.

All back home now, I guess, to find a psycho god-like bitch has taken over gramma's house, and possessed the entire town. I'm guessing that Sam will come clean and tell Bud everything too, which could go places.

I'm still waiting for Jessica to accidentally kill Hoyt. I just can't shake the feeling that she'll loose control at any moment, and sink in. I hope that doesn't happen, but it always just seems that way.

Block (8 wrote:

"it's me Godric" was put in.

Because he thought Godric had turned passive, and wouldn't harm him.

matrim

I liked this episode too. The Godric death scene was very well done and other storylines are moving on.

The only thing is I don't like the drinking a vampires blood making a connection part, even though it will probably lead to a good storyline. Would that mean that everyone who did V has a connection, and do Layfayette and Eric now have a connection? If it had of been a 2 way thing of drinking from one and the other at the same time it might have made it a bit better.

tvnutz

matrim wrote: »

I liked this episode too. The Godric death scene was very well done and other storylines are moving on.

The only thing is I don't like the drinking a vampires blood making a connection part, even though it will probably lead to a good storyline. Would that mean that everyone who did V has a connection, and do Layfayette and Eric now have a connection? If it had of been a 2 way thing of drinking from one and the other at the same time it might have made it a bit better.

Ye that is one thing. Does anyone who ever tries V have a connection with the vampire that the V came from? Or are we too assume most V comes from vampires that were drained and killed like nearly happened to Bill in the first episode and Lafyette's method of obtaining it was rare.

Also V makes you high,very high in a very weird way. Yet when Sookie drinks Bill's blood,even Eric's in the last episode,why isn't she going on a trip. Is it because she is "different".?

Basq

For some reason I thought V was synthetic blood?

matrim

tvnutz wrote: »

Ye that is one thing. Does anyone who ever tries V have a connection with the vampire that the V came from? Or are we too assume most V comes from vampires that were drained and killed like nearly happened to Bill in the first episode and Lafyette's method of obtaining it was rare.

Also V makes you high,very high in a very weird way. Yet when Sookie drinks Bill's blood,even Eric's in the last episode,why isn't she going on a trip. Is it because she is "different".?

IIRC the first time she drank Bills blood she got high but it doesn't seem to be happening now. It's also supposed to be very addictive and she so far has never shown signs of a comedown, although in saying that she only seems to drink it when she is injured \ has to

Basq

Hmmmm.. are ye sure V isn't synthetic blood? Like why didn't Jessica take to it at the start of the season.. while she craved human blood.

It's not the same AFAIK!

matrim

basquille wrote: »

Hmmmm.. are ye sure V isn't synthetic blood? Like why didn't Jessica take to it at the start of the season.. while she craved human blood.

It's not the same AFAIK!

Tru Blood is the synthetic blood, V is vampire blood. It's what Jason was hooked on last season

Basq

matrim wrote: »

Tru Blood is the synthetic blood, V is vampire blood. It's what Jason was hooked on last season

Ahhh yes... of course. I've a mind like a sieve!

Yakuza

tvnutz wrote: »

Also V makes you high,very high in a very weird way. Yet when Sookie drinks Bill's blood,even Eric's in the last episode,why isn't she going on a trip. Is it because she is "different".?

That's been bugging me too, i.e. how come Sookie isn't hooked on the juice; if all it took was one drop (on a piece of toilet paper) for Jason to be coked off his tits for hours on end, and Sookie has swallowed plenty of Bill's (and now Eric's), err, juice (tee hee!) without any addiction showing.

Maybe it's a strength of character thing, as opposed to anything physiological.

ixoy

Yakuza wrote: »

That's been bugging me too, i.e. how come Sookie isn't hooked on the juice; if all it took was one drop (on a piece of toilet paper) for Jason to be coked off his tits for hours on end, and Sookie has swallowed plenty of Bill's (and now Eric's), err, juice (tee hee!) without any addiction showing.

I'm assuming the difference is that she drank directly from them whereas they drank it from a glass or injected it, etc. The effects are different - sure otherwise all of Lafayette's clients would suddenly feel what that old vampire was feeling all the time and be attracted to him.

Kirby

It's pretty much whichever suits the narrative better for that episode.

Sookie never gets high and she drinks regularly.

Jason became addicted after a single drop , went into withdrawal and went to the vampire bar needing his fix...and he meets Amy who didn't seem addicted at all.

Yet when they take V together, he suffers no withdrawal at all this time and she breaks down and insists they abduct Eddie the vampire.

When Bill stakes longshadow, sookie is covered head to toe with blood, loads goes in her mouth and yet she didn't get high. Same thing happened when Amy staked Eddie, you can clearly see the blood all over Jason's face and yet nothing.

You could argue that drinking it directly from a vampire and bottling it make a difference, but that doesn't make alot of sense. Besides, Amy and Jason drank directly from Eddie's I.V. and got high off a few drops.

It doesn't make much sense, but thats the nature of storytelling. It's like in sci-fi when people go "out of phase" and can walk through walls yet don't fall through the floor. Its just one of the things you ignore and shouldn't nitpick at. To be honest, I'm glad they haven't tried to explain the inconsistencies and just got on with the storytelling.

Speaking of not making much sense, from the latest episode,

Sam being able to shapeshift into a fly is kind of odd. I mean, the dog, bird, pig you could understand but a fly? where does the rest of him go?

iguana

This was actually my favourite episode of this series so far. It was all the things I loved from the first season. It's also made me realise that I far prefer being able to watch the entire series all at once. Watching week by week is like trying to read a single book over 3 months, it's both frustrating and less involving. I just don't think I'll ever have the strength to wait until the end of a season and then watch them all at once.:mad:

Kirby wrote: »

It's like in sci-fi when people go "out of phase" and can walk through walls yet don't fall through the floor.

Actually that is very much explained. People with the ability to phase can choose wear they walk, it's why Kitty Pryde can walk on air when she phases. In a phases state air is as solid to them as concrete, so they can choose where to place their step.:P

The first book goes into the effects of vampire blood on Sookie quite a lot, and I assume that continues in the rest. It makes her physically stronger, hornier, healthier and gives her much more control over her telepathy. In the tv series I think the main reason she never gets high is that she is a supernatural and they are different from regular humans. In the same way that Maryann can't control them, vampire blood has a different effect.

The Don

Good episode. Sorry to see Godric gone so soon but it was a good end. I laughed when Eric tricked Sookie into drinking his blood. Also at the Newlin's fighting on tv. Good to see
Lafayette kicking ass again.

As people are talking about little things, what happened to Sookie's ability to control objects? Like when she held the chain wrapped around Mack Rattray's neck when they tried to steal Bill's blood in the pilot. Or when she threw him in the second episode.

iguana

The Don wrote: »

As people are talking about little things, what happened to Sookie's ability to control objects? Like when she held the chain wrapped around Mack Rattray's neck when they tried to steal Bill's blood in the pilot. Or when she threw him in the second episode.

She never had that ability, she's only telepathic. If you watch the original pilot, the one with the other actor playing Tara, you'll see that there was actually a woman in the bushes who did that. It is really confusing in the first episode though as they left in the tk effect with the chain, but we are supposed to believe it was the momentum from the swing that caused the chain to coil like that. The bit where Mack Rattray is thrown in the second episode was Bill moving him at speed.

The Don

iguana wrote: »

She never had that ability, she's only telepathic. If you watch the original pilot, the one with the other actor playing Tara, you'll see that there was actually a woman in the bushes who did that. It is really confusing in the first episode though as they left in the tk effect with the chain, but we are supposed to believe it was the momentum from the swing that caused the chain to coil like that. The bit where Mack Rattray is thrown in the second episode was Bill moving him at speed.

That would explain why we haven't seen it since. Its been a while since I watched them so I'd forgotten Bill threw Mack. So does Tara have that ability in the books and does it effect the story more? Would that be why MaryAnn is interested in her?

iguana

The Don wrote: »

So does Tara have that ability in the books and does it effect the story more? Would that be why MaryAnn is interested in her?

I don't know, Tara's not in the first book and I'm reading the books behind the series as i think the series is better and I don't want to spoil it. The other characters aren't as important in the books, they are written in first person from Sookie's point of view, so everything is from her perspective.

2040

There's more inconsistency with V though. The first time Jason takes it he takes a whole vial and only gets and erection for hours. He wasn't tripping that time at all. On subsequent occasions however he's tripping out of his head on one drop. This did annoy me a bit.

pickarooney

Does the temperature of the V affect it's effects? Or do they somehow refine it when they make the 'tabs'?

jor el

matrim wrote: »

Would that mean that everyone who did V has a connection, and do Layfayette and Eric now have a connection?

Considering that Lafayette drank Eric's blood to heal himself, as Sookie did with Bill's in the first episode, I'd say that they now have a connection too. Eric will be able to sense Lafayette, and Lafayette may become sexually attracted to Eric, though we haven't seen any evidence of that so far. If anything, Lafayette is terrified of Eric, and vampires in general.

2040 wrote: »

There's more inconsistency with V though. The first time Jason takes it he takes a whole vial and only gets and erection for hours. He wasn't tripping that time at all. On subsequent occasions however he's tripping out of his head on one drop. This did annoy me a bit.

It just adds to the inconsistency. Why did Jason have to get his penis drained after taking one vial of blood, when Lafayette drank about a gallon, and had no effect other than to cure his injuries? Is it something to do with your level of health?

Best to ignore the little inconsistencies, or it'll just ruin the show for you.

iguana

jor el wrote: »

Is it something to do with your level of health?

Quite obviously, that's why there is a difference in the effect when a healthy person takes any medicine in real life. Look at all the injured people who get fairly large doses of morphine and just feel a bit better as opposed to the non injured people who are massively hooked on smallish doses of it or heroin.

There are also differences based on the age and health of the vampire, the freshness of the blood and the method used to imbibe. I'm not sure why there is so much confusion I've always found it straightforward.

JIZZLORD

my favourite part of the episode was where hoyt was having the argument with his mother regarding people she hates

Kirby

Also liked that scene too

I was thinking about it and as villains go, MaryAnn can't be that hard to kill. Chop off her head, job done. So I was finding it hard to get excited about the inevitable showdown between her and the vamps.

But then I thought about it a bit more . She can't control supernatural people like everyone else but she could make Sam shift so I'm assuming she can do something similar to the vampires. Make Bill go all primal and evil perhaps, make sookie go insane, etc.

Even if she couldn't though, she can control the whole town of normal people and thats an army right there. An army that Sookie wouldn't let Bill kill so it could get interesting. A Big scary Bull ("with claws!" ) with an army of the whole town............ versus a hanful of vampires, a crazy girl, a drunken cop, and a dog.

I know who my money would be on.