Sir?

Quazzie

Alan Sugar of 'The Apprentice' fame*, is to be made Lord, thus overwriting his Sir status, so my question is, Did you call Alan Sugar, Sir Alan Sugar, and will you call him Lord Alan Sugar?

Is it just something that the British people should use or is that his official name to us all now. Personally I have never referred to him as Sir Alan, and think that it something that only applies to British people as his status, be it Sir or Lord does not extend beyond the reign of the Monarch.

Whats your view on this? Do you call him Sir Alan?


*He is obviously more famous for his business ventures but not to all. The Apprentice is what made him famous to a much wider audience.

KTRIC

I don't recognise the British monarchy and any of the associated titles. I have and will point blank refuse to use a title when addressing someone unless it was earned, like Doctor, Professor, Child-Molester Father etc...

0ubliette

i prefer to call him a cock nosed sh!tmuncher

biko

Sugar daddy

ShooterSF

Sir, you're making a scene.

Turd Ferguson

I called him Alley Baby....he paid me substancially to do so

TheZohanS

KTRIC wrote: »

I don't recognise the British monarchy and any of the associated titles. I have and will point blank refuse to use a title when addressing someone unless it was earned, like Doctor, Professor, Child-Molester Father etc...

Gerry?

Nodin

Quazzie wrote: »

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Whats your view on this? Do you call him Sir Alan?

Bollocks - 'Big Al' or 'head the ball'. Doesn't strike as the type to have too much time for that crap anyway.

Rented Mule

I'll switch to saccherine or aspartamine.

Jet Black

If the Irish government decided to have an hornors system and people were given the title of say 'The Legend' at the end of your name or The Supreme at the start of your name do you think an English person would address them as that?

There goes The Supreme Paddy Wacker.

Would you accept a title from the Irish government?

Aidric

Nodin wrote: »

Bollocks - 'Big Al' or 'head the ball'. Doesn't strike as the type to have too much time for that crap anyway.

Spot on, although I hear he insists his wife calls him Sir.

Saibh

Quazzie wrote: »

Alan Sugar of 'The Apprentice' fame*, is to be made Lord, thus overwriting his Sir status, so my question is, Did you call Alan Sugar, Sir Alan Sugar, and will you call him Lord Alan Sugar?

Is it just something that the British people should use or is that his official name to us all now. Personally I have never referred to him as Sir Alan, and think that it something that only applies to British people as his status, be it Sir or Lord does not extend beyond the reign of the Monarch.

Whats your view on this? Do you call him Sir Alan?


*He is obviously more famous for his business ventures but not to all. The Apprentice is what made him famous to a much wider audience.

Think I have a better chance of winning the lotto than meeting him, so I won't be calling him anything.

Fratton Fred

KTRIC wrote: »

I don't recognise the British monarchy and any of the associated titles. I have and will point blank refuse to use a title when addressing someone unless it was earned, like Doctor, Professor, Child-Molester Father etc...

so if he didn't earn the title sir or Lord, how did he get them? ebay?

poisonated

He didn't earn it in the sense that he didn't go through years of training to get it....someone just decided that he deserves to get it

KTRIC

Fratton Fred wrote: »

so if he didn't earn the title sir or Lord, how did he get them? ebay?

Quite possibly.

Turd Ferguson

Aidric wrote: »

Spot on, although I hear he insists his wife calls him Sir.

No. He calls his wife Freddy and she calls him Al

>_>
<_<

PK2008

Ive never met him tbh

Fratton Fred

poisonated wrote: »

He didn't earn it in the sense that he didn't go through years of training to get it....someone just decided that he deserves to get it

I suppose not. All he did was start off with nothing and create a £multi million business employing hundreds of people.

Much better he lock himself away in a dark room for 10 years sponging off the state and getting a bull**** doctorate in ancient greek poetry.

stovelid

Quazzie wrote: »

Whats your view on this? Do you call him Sir Alan?

I prefer Gerbil-Face.

PirateShampoo

KTRIC wrote: »

I don't recognise the British monarchy and any of the associated titles. I have and will point blank refuse to use a title when addressing someone unless it was earned, like Doctor, Professor, Child-Molester Father etc...

Congratulations on the first clueless post in this thread, you my good sir are a moron.

The guy is worth 730 million and brought us the Amstrad computer. He donates to Charity's and employees god knows how many people.

But I'm sure he's gonna be broken hearted that a Keyboard warrior doesn't recognize his achievements.

KTRIC

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Congratulations on the first clueless post in this thread, you my good sir are a moron.

The guy is worth 730 million and brought us the Amstrad computer. He donates to Charity's and employees god knows how many people.

But I'm sure he's gonna be broken hearted that a Keyboard warrior doesn't recognize his achievements.

I was attacking the title, not the person. I know exactly who the man is and what he has done. I've worked in IT for over 10 years and owned a computer since the age of 3 so I think I might be familiar with his work.

dr.bollocko

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Congratulations on the first clueless post in this thread, you my good sir are a moron.

The guy is worth 730 million and brought us the Amstrad computer. He donates to Charity's and employees god knows how many people.

But I'm sure he's gonna be broken hearted that a Keyboard warrior doesn't recognize his achievements.

banned

the_syco

I'd call him Alan, or Mr Sugar to be formal. If he tried to get me to call him "Sir", or "Lord" Alan, I'd tell him to f**k off.

AnonoBoy

Favourite joke when I was a kid:

Q: What do you call a gorilla with a machine gun?

A: Sir.

Terry

Fratton Fred wrote: »

so if he didn't earn the title sir or Lord, how did he get them? ebay?

http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=title+lord

niceirishfella

I know a bloke who met him in London at an event and he told he he was a genuine easy going bloke, no heirs or graces.
I'd tend to belive it too.

Fratton Fred

Terry wrote: »

http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=title+lord

so? Sir Alan didn't buy his, he was awarded it.

When he is becomes a Lord, he will be able to take up a seat in the house of Lords. Buying a title on ebay doesn't come with the same benefits.

If you want to buy a title with any clout, is off the labour party

Alan Sugar earned his the same way Bono and Bob Geldoff earned theirs, hard work and dedication.

KTRIC

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Alan Sugar earned his the same way Bono and Bob Geldoff earned theirs, hard work and dedication.

:rolleyes:

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

so? Sir Alan didn't buy his, he was awarded it.

When he is becomes a Lord, he will be able to take up a seat in the house of Lords. Buying a title on ebay doesn't come with the same benefits.

If you want to buy a title with any clout, is off the labour party

Alan Sugar earned his the same way Bono and Bob Geldoff earned theirs, hard work and dedication.

Does this mean that congratulations are in order Lord Fratton?

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Does this mean that congratulations are in order Lord Fratton?

please, call me Fred

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

please, call me Fred

Thank you your Fredship (falls over and bangs head on Adams fireplace trying to curtsey)

battser

I wouldn't call anyone sir or lord if I met them!

I think it5s the biggest load of Sh!te and id rather refer to him and fergie as

BINTS

pug_

Don't us Irish give out freedom of cities and such to recognise peoples achievements? So the British do it a little differently big hoo ha it's their country let them run it how they like. For people to then turn around and say they refuse to recognise the titles given to them by their countries sounds a bit disrespectful to me. Other countries may well employ similar systems of recognition using different names, are they all to be ignored or is it just the British? How would you know if you met someone who was to be refered to as 'numnut' or something would you ask them how they got their title first before refusing to recognise them by it?

Not all titles have to be earned through years of hard work, Taoiseach, Tánaiste, President, none of these titles are earned they are given. Granted they are only temporary but the principle is the same.

Fratton Fred

battser wrote: »

I wouldn't call anyone sir or lord if I met them!

I think it5s the biggest load of Sh!te and id rather refer to him and fergie as

BINTS

I had to phone the Chairman of vodafone once, I was bricking it cos i didn't know how i was supposed to address him. In the end i spoke to his PA and gave her all the info.

20 minutes later, i get a call from a guy addressing me as Mr. Fratton and telling me it was Ian McLauren and thanking me for the info blah blah.

Really nice guy, I think the Lord bit was for official use only.

speedboatchase

Sirallun

Dubh Geannain

KTRIC wrote: »

I don't recognise the British monarchy

The queen appears on the back of Sterling coins albeit a slightly younger version of her. Might help ya a little

ejmaztec

I prefer the title that Alan Suger's competitors gave him when Amstrad started out "The Brentford Barrow Boy"

KTRIC

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

The queen appears on the back of Sterling coins albeit a slightly younger version of her. Might help ya a little

Who is "The" Queen ?? unless things have changed a lot in Ireland over the past 2 years since I left I don't remember us having a queen.

ejmaztec

KTRIC wrote: »

Who is "The" Queen ?? unless things have changed a lot in Ireland over the past 2 years since I left I don't remember us having a queen.

Graham Norton, or that Senator David Norris?

Fratton Fred

KTRIC wrote: »

Who is "The" Queen ?? unless things have changed a lot in Ireland over the past 2 years since I left I don't remember us having a queen.

so, er, what has that got to do with sir Alan's title?

for the avoidance of doubt, I would say the mention of "The Queen" in this thread refers to the the Queen who is the head of state in the UK as opposed to the Irish Queen

Edit: damn, Ejmaztec beat me to it, I must get quicker at this posting malarky

KTRIC

ejmaztec wrote: »

Graham Norton, or that Senator David Norris?

Eh,


Her Royal Highness Graham Norton of course :rolleyes:

Dubh Geannain

KTRIC wrote: »

Who is "The" Queen ?? unless things have changed a lot in Ireland over the past 2 years since I left I don't remember us having a queen.

You said u don't recognise the "British Monarchy" so I gave you a pointer on how to do this. I didn't mention anything to do with Ireland in my post. :P

Off topic but didn't Bertie want to be addressed by something like "Taoisigh" for being a former Taoiseach?

ejmaztec

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

You said u don't recognise the "British Monarchy" so I gave you a pointer on how to do this. I didn't mention anything to do with Ireland in my post. :P

Off topic but didn't Bertie want to be addressed by something like "Taosigh" for being a former Taoiseach?

"The Accused" would be better.

KTRIC

ejmaztec wrote: »

"The Accused" would be better.

The gouger formerly know as Taoiseach

tech77

stovelid wrote: »

I prefer Gerbil-Face.

That's Sir Gerbil Face to you.

dsmythy

I wouldn't call anyone sir anything.

Joey the lips

@ does that count for much!

Quazzie

Joey the lips wrote: »

@ does that count for much!

A statatatat boatatatat??

ejmaztec

Quazzie wrote: »

A statatatat boatatatat??

That would be Lord Statatatat-Boatatatat to us mere mortals.

Joey the lips

Quazzie wrote: »

A statatatat boatatatat??

Ahh sh@@s[/EMAIL]

Go figure!

Turd Ferguson

Joey the lips wrote: »

Ahh sh@@s[/EMAIL]

Go figure!

What the hell are you talking about?