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Graduate Pub on fire

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    #92
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Willit have to be completly leveled? Maybe they could build a much needed underground car park in the reconstruction.


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    #93
    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Defo! There's no way they could rebuild it. I took a stroll up there last night, absolutely gutted so it is.

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    #94
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    markopantelic wrote: »
    if u enter the ramblers rest there is a great chance u wont come out alive. ****ing idiots in that pub.

    i go in there sometimes to watch the football, but the guys i go with grew up around that area so know who to watch out for.

    Apparantly it is a nightmare when there is a live band on.


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    #95
    misslolapants
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭misslolapants


    Will they re-open it? IN in Dalkey burnt down last year...this time last year actually & they never re-opened. Are the shops ok? I missed the fire yesterday just saw it this morning, looks so sad :(


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    #96
    thecommander
    Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


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    #97
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    DO NOT FALSELY ACCUSE ANYONE/ IMPLY THAT THIS FIRE WAS STARTED DELEBRATELY.

    Not all the facts are in. next person to do it will be Banned for 2 months.


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    #98
    The grad chik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭The grad chik


    Agent Smith wrote: »
    DO NOT FALSELY ACCUSE ANYONE/ IMPLY THAT THIS FIRE WAS STARTED DELEBRATELY.

    Not all the facts are in. next person to do it will be Banned for 2 months.

    Im sorry I just lost my job


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    #99
    The grad chik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭The grad chik


    Still think the chinesse lounge staff were very rude. Hope the victor does good now.


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    #100
    Amalgam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    What sort of management is in place, does the fire officer preside over the scene, the police were keen to keep everyone at bay today, does that include the owners etc?

    Is it, basically, a crime scene until they establish the cause?

    The car park was off limits and Gardai were present up to this evening.

    Do the corporation\local county council 'condemn' the building, or is that assessed by staff in the fire service?

    Just curious about procedure that might not be obvious to Joe Public.


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    #101
    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    DFB local District Officer will have to investigate the cause of the fire in his /her opinion.

    I would not re-open if I were the owner especially in the current economic climate.

    It mentioned in an RTE news report that the place just underwent a refurbishment.

    Very unfortunate circumstances for owner/s as I found it a nice pub.

    Seems a strange time for a fire to start at that time of the morning?

    As a previous person said, Fire Alarm system?, Sprinkler system in place? Fire Extinguishers which may have been used by staff on premises?

    It will be interesting to see what the cause of the fire was from DFB.


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    #102
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Passed by this evening, still crawling with cops, some forensics in Garda overalls collecting evidence to what may have caused the fire, two semi marked Ford Transit connect vans also in car park. Garda crime scene tape was also placed.

    They are starting to errect shuttering ply on the Rochestown avenue side which will soon block the view of the entire premises to stop Joe public souvenir hunting.


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    #103
    markopantelic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 538 ✭✭✭markopantelic


    The grad chik wrote: »
    Still think the chinesse lounge staff were very rude. Hope the victor does good now.

    HOW CAN THEY BE RUDE, AND HOW MANY CHINESE WERE EMPLOYED? I HIGHLY DOUBT ALL OF THEM ARE RUDE. THE CHINESE ARE A JOVIAL BUNCH ESPECIALLY IF THEY SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH.

    *i realise i just did another generalisation*

    umm i wonder what will happen with killiney shopping centre now?


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    #104
    democrates
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    The grad chik wrote: »
    Still think the chinesse lounge staff were very rude.
    There are a few points worth considering in this. The Chinese language sounds abrubt to us, and that staccato style can be carried over to their English, similarly East European people can sound like they're angry (Homer and "kolkalosh!").

    If you look different in this country the fact is at times you will be the subject of snide comments, be it fat, thin, tall, short, red haired, wearing glasses, or foreign featured, it's not necessarily racism which is a subset of differencism. While the initial failing is on the part of the bully, the recipeint of that treatment can become insular, defensive, and resentful.

    The Chinese education on history gives a view of a great nation of people badly treated by Mao et al and by the rest of the world, unappreciated and looked down upon. It suits the communist party to keep this "us against the world" script in play, the same nationalist script used by autocrats throughout history to keep their grip on power.

    So while the Chinese staff in the Graduate may have come accross as rude and every culture has it's rude people, it may not be as bad as you think, and considering where they may be coming from as outlined above, a degree of lattitude may be fitting.

    With people losing their jobs (genuinely sorry to hear you lost this one) in this recession I've noted a rise in resentment toward anyone foreign looking whether they're here for generations or recently arrived. They're just doing what the Irish had to do, working hard to try and make their way in life.

    The architects of hardship are not ordinary people but the ruling classes who twist globalisation to suit their insatiable quest for wealth and power, with the wants of the few prioritised over the needs of the many. I think if anyone deserves a fist of fury it's the golden circle, but ordinary workers and entrepreneurs deserve a hand of friendship be it in the Graduate or anywhere else. Half of the economy is going up in flames, Ireland of the thousand welcomes shouldn't perish with it.


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    #105
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    can we stay somewhat on topic please...


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    #106
    misslolapants
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭misslolapants


    I heard it'll be 2 years before they open again but that they will be re-opening. Yaaaay! :)


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    #107
    Cookie_Monster
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    democrates wrote: »
    There are a few points worth considering in this. The Chine.... ...with it.

    There aren't really, they were pretty useless, rude and did their best to look at the florr while walking around.

    That said none of the other nationalities were much better. It is was the hardest pub I know of to actuallly manageg to get lounge service in!


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    #108
    SerialComplaint
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    There aren't really, they were pretty useless, rude and did their best to look at the florr while walking around.

    That said none of the other nationalities were much better. It is was the hardest pub I know of to actuallly manageg to get lounge service in!

    I was in the Graduate for drinks and food a couple of weeks back for the first time in years. I found the service to be friendly and attentive, and it was decent value too.


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    #109
    Cookie_Monster
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    SerialComplaint wrote: »
    I was in the Graduate for drinks and food a couple of weeks back for the first time in years. I found the service to be friendly and attentive, and it was decent value too.

    The difference when you want food ;)


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    #110
    Run_to_da_hills
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    misslolapants wrote: »
    I heard it'll be 2 years before they open again but that they will be re-opening. Yaaaay! :)
    I think it would be a great idea if they put a McDonald's there instead of another pub, it would be a far more lucrative business and it could be up and running in just six months. :)


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    #111
    Amalgam
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I think it would be a great idea if they put a McDonald's there instead of another pub, it would be a far more lucrative business and it could be up and running in just six months. :)

    Smart arse.. :pac: but isn't that happening anyway? What Pizza chain is moving in directly next door? Pizza Hut or Domino's?


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    #112
    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Pizza Hut! I only saw that when I went up for a gander the other night! Couldn't be happier! Best pizza out there!

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    #113
    Cookie_Monster
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I think it would be a great idea if they put a McDonald's there instead of another pub, it would be a far more lucrative business and it could be up and running in just six months. :)

    Pass.

    The walk to the next nearest pub is far to far. Definitly needs to be a pub put back there, Graduate or otherwise.


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    #114
    mirwillbeback
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭mirwillbeback


    Gotta say, I thought that most of the staff there were sound. I'd be there pretty often and in general they were bang on, in particular the tall chap John, really hope he gets another job soon, though he's well known for being a gent so should be ok.
    Some of them were a bit abrupt, but then they're dealing with piss heads most of the time. And whatever they were like, the young blonde lounge girl made up for it all. Fantastic.
    Hope they build it back up. As for being started deliberately, I have to laugh at the accusations. When I was outside on Monday, about an hour after it started, the amount of " insurance scam " comments made me laugh. I mean, it started in the kitchen ffs, it wasn't like an arson attack. Madness.


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    #115
    Cookie_Monster
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    mirwillbeback wrote: »
    general they were bang on, in particular the tall chap John, really hope he gets another job soon, though he's well known for being a gent so should be ok.

    Yeah he was decent alright
    mirwillbeback wrote: »
    And whatever they were like, the young blonde lounge girl made up for it all. Fantastic.

    +1 :pac:


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    #116
    mollydolly271
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭mollydolly271


    i'm gutted it looks like i'm going to have to start cooking my own sunday roasts :( i loved their corned beef yum yum


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    #117
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Ah....didn't know The Graduate was gone :eek:.

    Way back in the mists of time (aka the 1970s) we used to meet there in the week before Christmas before going carol singing in the surrounding area; Avondale Road, Rochestown Avenue, Woodlands estate.

    All in a good cause; as they say 'charity begins at home'.


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    #118
    rubadub
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    misslolapants wrote: »
    I heard it'll be 2 years before they open again but that they will be re-opening. Yaaaay! :)
    Quicker than that! its open tomorrow

    Burnt down on 15 june 09

    Dunno if it was mentioned elsewhere

    http://www.thegraduate.ie/
    Re-open date is Tuesday March 30th at 6:00pm
    We are looking forward to welcoming all our customers & friends to help us celebrate.

    I am not certain if it is going to open, seemed quite active the last few weeks, lights on at night etc.


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    #119
    doncarlos
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    Looks very well. Was in last Sunday for food. Food was nice but service was absolutly shocking. Really slow and the staff were very rude. Had to walk up to desk to order as we were waiting 15 minutes.
    Food arived but was waiting for pepper sauce. Had to ask three times for it when the woman finnaly brought it out she just put it on the table without saying anything. The service would put me off going again.


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    #120
    Dr. Dodger
    Registered Users Posts: 381 ✭✭Dr. Dodger


    In fairness there is a load of brand new staff up there and I think they're still getting to grips with things including supervisors etc. Give them a month or two I say and then we can judge things fairly.


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    #121
    Cookie_Monster
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    doncarlos wrote: »
    Food was nice but service was absolutly shocking. Really slow and the staff were very rude. Had to walk up to desk to order as we were waiting 15 minutes.

    no change there then, I've been up there a few times since and service is as bad as ever.

    the décor is woeful too.

    still, cheaper pints than anywhere else local


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