Labour Saving and General Guntering

patsy_mccabe

......you have to catch him first.

_Brian

Farmer wrote: »

Easy now, surely ye cant prosecute him until ye catch him overweight

That’s not correct actually.

If your pulling a trailer that your licence doesn’t cover, even empty, you can be prosecuted.

The law is based on the “designed” weight of a trailer not the actual weight.

The trailer OP has made is to pull an IBC, these are 1000kg, plus weight of trailer, probably 150kg, so the dgvw of that trailer is probably 1200kg, well over the 750 allowed on a standard B licence.

Nekarsulm

I bet the OP is sorry he even posted the photo at this stage!

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I bet the OP is sorry he even posted the photo at this stage!

That's the joys of this thread

Farmer

Aye, it's looking like turkey feathers is all he'll be able to bring in it now

_Brian

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I bet the OP is sorry he even posted the photo at this stage!

I know the point I made is a bit on the pedantic pat, however, that is the technical implication of the law.
More and more the traffic core are targeting farmers pulling trailers so being educated is no harm. I myself flout the be license requirement occasionally but I’m aware and have the old “Jesus I didn’t know that” sob story well rehearsed.

Anyway, I didn’t even mention that as of two years ago all new trailers need a CE stamp to be road legal, that’s a whole other mess.

Muckit

Bastards..... another tax on footwear!!

Muckit

you are quick!

Nekarsulm

_Brian wrote: »

Anyway, I didn’t even mention that as of two years ago all new trailers need a CE stamp to be road legal, that’s a whole other mess.

Whole other mess is right.
And when they move on to older farm-made trailers it'll affect a lot of people.

SCOL

Jesus lads I only wanted to show you my trailer, and a bit of advice !!!

ganmo

SCOL wrote: »

Jesus lads I only wanted to show you my trailer, and a bit of advice !!!

to get around the'design weight you could drill a hole 3/4 of the way up the tank

Farmer

ganmo wrote: »

to get around the'design weight you could drill a hole 3/4 of the way up the tank

..with a rubber bung in it, cinnected by string in to the jeep so that you can pull it when you see the blue lights:)

Please bear with us. We eagerly await, either the nose weight measurent, the result of the first trial run, or the ammended axle photo

Edit: Nice one on donedeal to model on.

https://www.donedeal.ie/trailers-for-sale/1000-litre-ibc-with-plumbed-jfc-30gallon-drinker/16989898

Picture 7 shows the springs

Reggie.

SCOL wrote: »

Jesus lads I only wanted to show you my trailer, and a bit of advice !!!

Ah don't look at it the wrong way lad. This info might seem like us being snaggy but it's good to know.

You'll be better informed in the future. Well that's how I look at things once I throw them up here.

SCOL

Farmer wrote: »

..with a rubber bung in it, cinnected by string in to the jeep so that you can pull it when you see the blue lights:)

Please bear with us. We eagerly await, either the nose weight measurent, the result of the first trial run, or the ammended axle photo

Edit: Nice one on donedeal to model on.

https://www.donedeal.ie/trailers-for-sale/1000-litre-ibc-with-plumbed-jfc-30gallon-drinker/16989898

Picture 7 shows the springs

Great Idea with the rubber !!! the one on DD she is a bit low and also the price.

SCOL

I'm going to rally her around the roads tonight. I'll 1/2 fill her to see how I get on

Do I need lights ????

Buford T. Justice XIX

SCOL wrote: »

I'm going to rally her around the roads tonight. I'll 1/2 fill her to see how I get on

Do I need lights ????

Only if it's dark:pac:

_Brian

SCOL wrote: »

Jesus lads I only wanted to show you my trailer, and a bit of advice !!!

Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one !

Reggie.

SCOL wrote: »

I'm going to rally her around the roads tonight. I'll 1/2 fill her to see how I get on

Do I need lights ????

Go for it lad

_Brian

Reggie. wrote: »

Go for it lad

Yea, it’s not like it’s the shortest day of the year and everyone else has light on all day, or that it’s cloudy raining and really poor visibility out.

If you have an accident the “I was just testing it” defence will work perfectly.

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Yea, it’s not like it’s the shortest day of the year and everyone else has light on all day, or that it’s cloudy raining and really poor visibility out.

If you have an accident the “I was just testing it” defence will work perfectly.

_Brian

Reggie. wrote: »

Someone on the internet told me to do it !!

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

Someone on the internet told me to do it !!

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/unsecured-load-stopped-by-gardai-in-bandon-333928

And he was only pulled over for not tying the load on THAT

White Clover

wrangler wrote: »

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/unsecured-load-stopped-by-gardai-in-bandon-333928

And he was only pulled over for not tying the load on THAT

Is that some kind of a converted donkey cart or something?

_Brian

White Clover wrote: »

Is that some kind of a converted donkey cart or something?

It’s some wreck to be bringing on the road. Some people really do deserve everything that is coming their way !

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/unsecured-load-stopped-by-gardai-in-bandon-333928

And he was only pulled over for not tying the load on THAT

Ah but that trailer stands out a mile

quietsailor

Just to throw a hand grenade into the conversation lads, you can tow over 750Kg on a B licence as long as the Total weight of car, trailer, load, people etc is under 3500Kg (Max allowable weight on our B licences )

Here's a link to the RSA web page
http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Trailers-/Advice-and-Checks-for-Trailers-/
(Sorry its not a hyper link ,I'm on the phone)

"You may tow a trailer with a maximum mass (again as specified by the manufacturer) not greater than 750kg, or where the maximum mass is more than 750kg, the combined maximum mass of the towing vehicle and the trailer is not greater than 3,500kg"


There are other rules -
Whatever the total weight of the trailer (load plus trailer weights combined) must be less than what the trailer is designed to carry.
Your car will have a Max weight allowed on the hitch and that cant be exceeded

vincenzolorenzo

Reggie. wrote: »

Ah but that trailer stands out a mile

But more importantly, for the first time ever a bale of hay has been confused for straw in the media! Always the other way round, same as farmers spreading smelly silage in the fields :D

_Brian

quietsailor wrote: »

Just to throw a hand grenade into the conversation lads, you can tow over 750Kg on a B licence as long as the Total weight of car, trailer, load, people etc is under 3500Kg (Max allowable weight on our B licences )

Here's a link to the RSA web page
http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Trailers-/Advice-and-Checks-for-Trailers-/
(Sorry its not a hyper link ,I'm on the phone)

"You may tow a trailer with a maximum mass (again as specified by the manufacturer) not greater than 750kg, or where the maximum mass is more than 750kg, the combined maximum mass of the towing vehicle and the trailer is not greater than 3,500kg"


There are other rules -
Whatever the total weight of the trailer (load plus trailer weights combined) must be less than what the trailer is designed to carry.
Your car will have a Max weight allowed on the hitch and that cant be exceeded

I’m aware of that and it’s important that people understand it.
But the guy making the IBC trailer said it would be pulled behind a disco, any trailer over dgvw 750kg behind a disco would need a BE option on the licence.

9935452

ganmo wrote: »

to get around the'design weight you could drill a hole 3/4 of the way up the tank

I was thinking the same thing but the hole would probable need to be half way up the ibc if you take the weight of the IBC and trailer into account which surely have to weigh 200/250kgs

ganmo

9935452 wrote: »

I was thinking the same thing but the hole would probable need to be half way up the ibc if you take the weight of the IBC and trailer into account which surely have to weigh 200/250kgs

you didn't let me finish.:P

and fill the rest with helium