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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Muckit wrote: »
    I'm thinking of getting a euro quick hitch and mating it to 3-point links. Has anyone ever done this? Doesnt seem to be something that can be bought off the shelf. Is it a hair brained idea?

    PTO shaft?? I think thats why the back frame is in an 'A' shape, to allow for the shaft.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    PTO shaft?? I think thats why the back frame is in an 'A' shape, to allow for the shaft.

    I was thinking of something similar to Muckit. I presume it's not to replace an A frame but to fit loader implements on 3 point hitch.

    My thinking was to transport an extra implement out to outfarm. So fork/grab on loader and bucket on back (sometimes useful to have both while cleaning out shed). Also could turn loader bucket into handy transport box.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    That's my thinking alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,267 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Advice please. I've been thinking of buying an inverter welder for OH and was going to buy one of the Lidl/Aldi ones but my brother told me that they are limited to 2/2.5mm rods ??. OH has a oil cooled welder in the workshop (old dairy) but it is awkward/heavy to move around and it blows fuses when use in other sheds.
    He would be using it to do repairs like gate hangers, feed barriers that sort of thing. I was looking at this one which is on sale at the moment, would it be sufficient for that type of work. BTW I don't want to pay big money as it would not be used that often.
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=649&product_id=4677


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Base price wrote: »
    Advice please. I've been thinking of buying an inverter welder for OH and was going to buy one of the Lidl/Aldi ones but my brother told me that they are limited to 2/2.5mm rods ??. OH has a oil cooled welder in the workshop (old dairy) but it is awkward/heavy to move around and it blows fuses when use in other sheds.
    He would be using it to do repairs like gate hangers, feed barriers that sort of thing. I was looking at this one which is on sale at the moment, would it be sufficient for that type of work. BTW I don't want to pay big money as it would not be used that often.
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=649&product_id=4677

    I was actually looking at that welder before. Here's the full spec on it from the manufacturer;
    http://www.parweld.co.uk/shop/mma-inverter-machines/xts-142-mma-inverter/

    It will take rods up to 3.2mm which is fine for most farm work.
    I'm no expert but it says the supply should be fused to 16A. That would be more than the normal 13A sockets so to be safe proper 16A sockets/plugs should be used. Might be worth checking all this with an electrician first.

    Someone else might be able to explain 'Duty Cycle' to you.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Muckit wrote: »
    I'm thinking of getting a euro quick hitch and mating it to 3-point links. Has anyone ever done this? Doesnt seem to be something that can be bought off the shelf. Is it a hair brained idea?

    No reason it couldn’t be done, there’s headstocks on DoneDeal for around 3/400 and could probably be made a lot cheaper and simpler if you didn’t want an auto latch set up.

    I’ve often thought I’d make up one if we got a front linkage, but I was thinking of making it up something similar to a power box setup with the rams down the back as it would give more angle than a standard hydraulic top link. Something similar to the way these are set up

    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/16692679


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Base price wrote: »
    Advice please. I've been thinking of buying an inverter welder for OH and was going to buy one of the Lidl/Aldi ones but my brother told me that they are limited to 2/2.5mm rods ??. OH has a oil cooled welder in the workshop (old dairy) but it is awkward/heavy to move around and it blows fuses when use in other sheds.
    He would be using it to do repairs like gate hangers, feed barriers that sort of thing. I was looking at this one which is on sale at the moment, would it be sufficient for that type of work. BTW I don't want to pay big money as it would not be used that often.
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=649&product_id=4677


    We had the parweld 160amp before it served well for a lot of welding then it got a bit of a roasting and burnt it out. Have a thermal arc 175 of ept in Carlow now.

    We had the parweld on a 13amp plug and you’d blow a fuse every now and again if you were welding heavy up over 120amps.

    The duty cycle basically means how long you can weld continuously for, so basically if it says it’s 60% @100amps it means you can weld for 6 out of every 10 minutes at 100amps lower amps will allow more time welding higher amps less time.
    In reality with changing rods and chipping the slag off and stuff you’d be doing well to reach the full of the time


  • Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭larthehar


    I was actually looking at that welder before. Here's the full spec on it from the manufacturer;
    http://www.parweld.co.uk/shop/mma-inverter-machines/xts-142-mma-inverter/

    It will take rods up to 3.2mm which is fine for most farm work.
    I'm no expert but it says the supply should be fused to 16A. That would be more than the normal 13A sockets so to be safe proper 16A sockets/plugs should be used. Might be worth checking all this with an electrician first.

    Someone else might be able to explain 'Duty Cycle' to you.

    I have a 175A thermal arc, suppose to take 4mm rods but i have never used them yet.. great little welder, have it on a 13amp socket and there is no issues.. mostly set between 80-100A for 3.2mm rods.. would burn too deep higher than that. I have never measured the current draw @100A but i often meant to for the craic..
    The duty cycle refers to the time it will run before overheating, so 20% means at 140A you can weld constantly for 2 minutes before it will trip. With my 175A welding at 100A or 60% of the max power + changing rods, cleaning slag etc it has never even come close to getting hot.. can.t rem the duty cycle but could be 30%.. all in all, for a few reapairs you will never hit it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Base price wrote: »
    Advice please. I've been thinking of buying an inverter welder for OH and was going to buy one of the Lidl/Aldi ones but my brother told me that they are limited to 2/2.5mm rods ??. OH has a oil cooled welder in the workshop (old dairy) but it is awkward/heavy to move around and it blows fuses when use in other sheds.
    He would be using it to do repairs like gate hangers, feed barriers that sort of thing. I was looking at this one which is on sale at the moment, would it be sufficient for that type of work. BTW I don't want to pay big money as it would not be used that often.
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=649&product_id=4677

    That should be a pretty good welder for work round the farm. The inverter means it draws less power than the oil cooled welder which should eliminate the problem with blowing fuses.

    It's also very light and portable and 3.2 mm rods should be plenty enough for minor repairs like gates and hangers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭The Rabbi


    Can you run the inverter welders off a generator?I was told there can be problems.I drag the Triangle into the front bucket and the pto genny on the back,handy for gates around the place.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Have an old welder here for over 20 years. There's a knob on the front to control the current but the scale is well worm off. It's heavy though, over 30Kgs. The one above is 4.5Kgs. Big difference.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭mad-for-tar


    Muckit wrote: »
    I'm thinking of getting a euro quick hitch and mating it to 3-point links. Has anyone ever done this? Doesnt seem to be something that can be bought off the shelf. Is it a hair brained idea?

    I made up a frame like this to take Euro implements about 18 years ago as an Ag College project. Still using it today although its primary purpose is for a home made weight block on the rear of the tractor. I can try get a pic of it for you over next day or 2 if that's any good?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,267 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Have an old welder here for over 20 years. There's a knob on the front to control the current but the scale is well worm off. It's heavy though, over 30Kgs. The one above is 4.5Kgs. Big difference.
    OH's welder is like yours in that its heavy and cumbersome to move. It's a Pickhill Bantam and he would never part with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 thestinge


    Was getting fed up jumping up and down on the recycling every week, also allowed us make full use of the general waste until pay by weight came in this year.

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    Picture post one coat of paint, hence the masking tape. Also I make no excuses for the welds, one thing I ain't is a welder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Base price wrote: »
    Advice please. I've been thinking of buying an inverter welder for OH and was going to buy one of the Lidl/Aldi ones but my brother told me that they are limited to 2/2.5mm rods ??. OH has a oil cooled welder in the workshop (old dairy) but it is awkward/heavy to move around and it blows fuses when use in other sheds.
    He would be using it to do repairs like gate hangers, feed barriers that sort of thing. I was looking at this one which is on sale at the moment, would it be sufficient for that type of work. BTW I don't want to pay big money as it would not be used that often.
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=649&product_id=4677

    Parweld is actually a decent enough budget brand, that welder is absolutely fine for the work you described, great price too, Don't go near the aldi/lidl welders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭SCOL


    I upgraded my welder from an oil cooled 25Kg ish welder that kept blowing fuses to a 200amp inverter that I bought it's a cheap Chinese
    for €100 and works great.




    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Display-Inverter-Anti-Stick-Complete/dp/B019GGWTES/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1515143536&sr=8-4&keywords=welder


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Some people would break iron. Neighbour rang me on Wednesday to see could I do a repair job to the loader. This is what I was greeted with. In fairness the box is only 4mm thick.
    Took a chance on repairing it for him after getting a more experienced opinion first.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Some people would break iron. Neighbour rang me on Wednesday to see could I do a repair job to the loader. This is what I was greeted with. In fairness the box is only 4mm thick.
    Took a chance on repairing it for him after getting a more experienced opinion first.

    4mm is a bit of a joke. How much extra would it cost to make it out of 6 or 8mm? Sod all I'd say.
    Saw a fresh case mini digger with the same craic either 3 or 4mm box.
    Probably some genius in the accountant Dept worked out they'd save 50 quid on each digger!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    enricoh wrote: »
    4mm is a bit of a joke. How much extra would it cost to make it out of 6 or 8mm? Sod all I'd say.
    Saw a fresh case mini digger with the same craic either 3 or 4mm box.
    Probably some genius in the accountant Dept worked out they'd save 50 quid on each digger!

    It's a New Holland loader bought with the tractor in 08. I was told today that it's possibly a rebadged Tanco or Rossmore. Any truth to this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    It's a New Holland loader bought with the tractor in 08. I was told today that it's possibly a rebadged Tanco or Rossmore. Any truth to this?

    Probably a stoll


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    It's a New Holland loader bought with the tractor in 08. I was told today that it's possibly a rebadged Tanco or Rossmore. Any truth to this?

    Surly it would say rossmore on it??


    If see front section/stamp on it...you'd know (but I can't imagine rossmore cutting down that light....but 08 was when price of steel went crazy...see seeing effects of it now?)



    Edit: from closer inspection looks like rossmore :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Surly it would say rossmore on it??


    If see front section/stamp on it...you'd know (but I can't imagine rossmore cutting down that light....but 08 was when price of steel went crazy...see seeing effects of it now?)

    Edit: from closer inspection looks like rossmore :eek:[/quote


    That's why ya can't beat the quicke loaders. They aren't box but channel welded together


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Surly it would say rossmore on it??


    If see front section/stamp on it...you'd know (but I can't imagine rossmore cutting down that light....but 08 was when price of steel went crazy...see seeing effects of it now?)






    Edit: from closer inspection looks like rossmore :eek:


    Definitely Stoll. All New holland loaders of that era were rebadged stoll.
    Rossmore loaders are dog heavy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭trg


    Hey, does anyone have a pic of a homemade silage pusher that works well on a front grab or the back lift arms? Would appreciate it, thanks in advance


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Reggie. wrote: »
    ...... That's why ya can't beat the quicke loaders. They aren't box but channel welded together

    That's why I hate box section with a passion. You can't tell the wall thickness by looking at it. On a farm too they rot away from the inside out in no time.
    All those cheap trailers you see on Donedeal, all have box section for beams undernath the body.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Good call. Stoll it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Good call. Stoll it is.

    The bottom of the boom is the give away as it's all cast


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    trg wrote: »
    Hey, does anyone have a pic of a homemade silage pusher that works well on a front grab or the back lift arms? Would appreciate it, thanks in advance

    I want to get one too. I think it will have to have a ram to ease in silage blocks. I don't think those wheel types will be sttong enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Muckit wrote: »
    I want to get one too. I think it will have to have a ram to ease in silage blocks. I don't think those wheel types will be sttong enough

    Lad in Offaly making them to order

    https://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/silage-power-pusher/17613830


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Saw drinkers made from blue barrells on their side when i was in mayo last week, has anyone ever made one??


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