Labour Saving and General Guntering

have2flushtwice

Farmer wrote: »

...but maybe it would be feasible to circulate it through a small tank with thermostatically controlled heater that keeps the water at a degree or two?

yes that would work.
on standby generators, which have to come on load (2MW) in less than 12 seconds (from stationary, start, up to speed, altemator sync, and on load) there is a secondary circulation pump for the water when the engine is not in use. this goes through a tube heater which keeps the water temperature at a pre defined setting.
the engine is up to temp all the time.

renandstimpy

have2flushtwice wrote: »

yes that would work.
on standby generators, which have to come on load (2MW) in less than 12 seconds (from stationary, start, up to speed, altemator sync, and on load) there is a secondary circulation pump for the water when the engine is not in use. this goes through a tube heater which keeps the water temperature at a pre defined setting.
the engine is up to temp all the time.

:-) :-)

renandstimpy

have2flushtwice wrote: »

yes that would work.
on standby generators, which have to come on load (2MW) in less than 12 seconds (from stationary, start, up to speed, altemator sync, and on load) there is a secondary circulation pump for the water when the engine is not in use. this goes through a tube heater which keeps the water temperature at a pre defined setting.
the engine is up to temp all the time.

:-) :-)

ganmo

heating cables inside insulation, would need a stat control to kick on when temp hits 2/3. already in use on central heating systems.
would be a pain to retrofit on buried pipes

Base price

This problem has been in the back of my mind for a few months. I have been too focused on my own concerns to think about it and I am annoyed with myself for letting that happen
Friends of family keep sheep and a few sucklers. They are getting on a bit in the years, he is 74 in Nov and she is 68 next year. They have family but they both live abroad in ZA and AR .
While I was visiting them we talked amongst other things about the physical workload and difficulties for older farmers handling livestock. The major issue them is when there is a problem with a ewe yeaning. Both of them have arthritis and find it painful to kneel down to handle a ewe on the ground. Mattie reckoned if he could put the ewe into a half barrel (with the end cut off) at table height it would make life a lot easier.
So I was thinking -
Could I convert a hospital bed for the purpose.
The reason that I think a hospital bed might suit is that you can alter the height by pushing on the pedals, lower to put the ewe in and higher to attend to her.
It has large enough wheels so that it could be moved around from pen to pen.
Leg, neck braces could be attached to still the ewe from moving about.
As far as I know, discarded hospital beds can be sourced relatively easily as long as they are going to be scrapped.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated especially dimensions, measurements - even detailed drawn plans to scale
Oh, forgot to mention - I have the ideas but not the where with all to execute them
OH would have to do the physical end of things like welding etc. Unfortunately he is flat out with his own work trying to keep our boat afloat and has not had the time to consider let alone plan this task.
So I am relying on you lads and lassies to help if ye can.
Thanks in advance.

_Brian

Heres a bit if kit we made up.
Our slatted shed was all singles up to last spring when we had to change the slats for gangs. We'd been lifting te singles with a set if hooks.
The crappy design I the shed meant no agitating point would work.

So we have a gang slat split in half inside the door.

We made up this dolly from parts from a forklift mast, steel bearing wheels.
The rail is 80x80 heavy box. Made a jig similar to the jig used by the slat company for the pully block to lift the half slats. Once lifted the rail runs them down the shed out of the way, no manual lifting involved.
Doesn't remove the danger of having slats lifted but takes out the danger of manually lifting slats.

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

This problem has been in the back of my mind for a few months. I have been too focused on my own concerns to think about it and I am annoyed with myself for letting that happen
Friends of family keep sheep and a few sucklers. They are getting on a bit in the years, he is 74 in Nov and she is 68 next year. They have family but they both live abroad in ZA and AR .
While I was visiting them we talked amongst other things about the physical workload and difficulties for older farmers handling livestock. The major issue them is when there is a problem with a ewe yeaning. Both of them have arthritis and find it painful to kneel down to handle a ewe on the ground. Mattie reckoned if he could put the ewe into a half barrel (with the end cut off) at table height it would make life a lot easier.
So I was thinking -
Could I convert a hospital bed for the purpose.
The reason that I think a hospital bed might suit is that you can alter the height by pushing on the pedals, lower to put the ewe in and higher to attend to her.
It has large enough wheels so that it could be moved around from pen to pen.
Leg, neck braces could be attached to still the ewe from moving about.
As far as I know, discarded hospital beds can be sourced relatively easily as long as they are going to be scrapped.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated especially dimensions, measurements - even detailed drawn plans to scale
Oh, forgot to mention - I have the ideas but not the where with all to execute them
OH would have to do the physical end of things like welding etc. Unfortunately he is flat out with his own work trying to keep our boat afloat and has not had the time to consider let alone plan this task.
So I am relying on you lads and lassies to help if ye can.
Thanks in advance.

maybe post this in the sheep forum?

Nekarsulm

whelan2 wrote: »

maybe post this in the sheep forum?

Hospital beds often turn up in our scrap metal dealers yard. Along with crutches and lockers and all sorts of stuff. Stuff you would imaging could get a disinfecting and be put in a container for more needy areas of the world.

Anyway.

Hospital beds have quite a slow method of raising and lowering, by a handle on a threaded bar. If you changed it to a bottle jack, it would be a lot easier for a more aged person to raise and lower. Bit like the Motorcycle mechanic height adjustable workshop benches.

(I have a window guard made for the tractor, for hedgecutting, from a hospital bed. Must take a photo next time its on)

Nekarsulm

A month without any guntering, here's two different thingies from a couple of years ago.

One gets a lot more use than the other..........:D

mayota

image.jpg
An action pic of lawnmower trailer. Saved me a lot of time this summer.

Reggie.

mayota wrote: »

image.jpg
An action pic of lawnmower trailer. Saved me a lot of time this summer.

This is the one you needed mesh on wasn't it

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A month without any guntering, here's two different thingies from a couple of years ago.

One gets a lot more use than the other..........:D

Fair lump of a drawbar there nek

mayota

Reggie. wrote: »

This is the one you needed mesh on wasn't it

That's the one.

_Brian

mayota wrote: »

That's the one.

This has been on my mind for a while..

HOw much of the side towards the mower is open ??

When cutting and turning and mowing does grass not miss the trailer altogether??

Could you stick up some more pics please.. Or if the plans were online could you link ..

Cheers..

rangler1

Base price wrote: »

This problem has been in the back of my mind for a few months. I have been too focused on my own concerns to think about it and I am annoyed with myself for letting that happen
Friends of family keep sheep and a few sucklers. They are getting on a bit in the years, he is 74 in Nov and she is 68 next year. They have family but they both live abroad in ZA and AR .
While I was visiting them we talked amongst other things about the physical workload and difficulties for older farmers handling livestock. The major issue them is when there is a problem with a ewe yeaning. Both of them have arthritis and find it painful to kneel down to handle a ewe on the ground. Mattie reckoned if he could put the ewe into a half barrel (with the end cut off) at table height it would make life a lot easier.
So I was thinking -
Could I convert a hospital bed for the purpose.
The reason that I think a hospital bed might suit is that you can alter the height by pushing on the pedals, lower to put the ewe in and higher to attend to her.
It has large enough wheels so that it could be moved around from pen to pen.
Leg, neck braces could be attached to still the ewe from moving about.
As far as I know, discarded hospital beds can be sourced relatively easily as long as they are going to be scrapped.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated especially dimensions, measurements - even detailed drawn plans to scale
Oh, forgot to mention - I have the ideas but not the where with all to execute them
OH would have to do the physical end of things like welding etc. Unfortunately he is flat out with his own work trying to keep our boat afloat and has not had the time to consider let alone plan this task.
So I am relying on you lads and lassies to help if ye can.
Thanks in advance.

As far as I know the Stanley roll over crate leaves sheep lying on their side for attending to.
http://stanleyengineeringservices.com/sheep-equipment.html

Nekarsulm

Reggie. wrote: »

Fair lump of a drawbar there nek

Ten inch by ten inch, RSJ. I had a 12 x 10, but even I thought it would be a bit much!

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Ten inch by ten inch, RSJ. I had a 12 x 10, but even I thought it would be a bit much!

Few rods used there

mayota

_Brian wrote: »

This has been on my mind for a while..

HOw much of the side towards the mower is open ??

When cutting and turning and mowing does grass not miss the trailer altogether??

Could you stick up some more pics please.. Or if the plans were online could you link ..

Cheers..

1200mm long. 850mm high. 1000mm wide at rear, 950mm at front. Bottom 150mm closed at front. Missing the trailer is not a problem but has to be watched, kept drawbar as short as possible without catching wheels.Attachment not found.image.jpg

Nekarsulm

Reggie. wrote: »

Few rods used there

I think it was two and a half boxes of rods. It was a Ford Cargo 16 tonner from a County Council auction.

C0N0R

mayota wrote: »

1200mm long. 850mm high. 1000mm wide at rear, 950mm at front. Bottom 150mm closed at front. Missing the trailer is not a problem but has to be watched, kept drawbar as short as possible without catching wheels.Attachment not found.image.jpg

I guess once you have the headlands done you just pick a straight border. Does it hold much more than a bag? How do you keep tail door shut?

mayota

C0N0R wrote: »

I guess once you have the headlands done you just pick a straight border. Does it hold much more than a bag? How do you keep tail door shut?

Just a pin at the bottom to keep it closed. An auto tailgate could be designed. I'd say it holds about 5 bags.

C0N0R

mayota wrote: »

Just a pin at the bottom to keep it closed. An auto tailgate could be designed. I'd say it holds about 5 bags.

Wow holds quite a bit! Makes me want a ride on!! Auto tailgate and a tipping mechanism wouldn't be to hard to do.

Stella Virgo

mayota wrote: »

image.jpg
An action pic of lawnmower trailer. Saved me a lot of time this summer

you should put a patent on that design and stop some cute hoor stealing your idea from here. that trailor idea is very good,and they would sell to every landscaping crowd in the country!
some serious money could be made from that trailor......

rangler1

Stella Virgo wrote: »

mayota wrote: »

image.jpg
An action pic of lawnmower trailer. Saved me a lot of time this summer

you should put a patent on that design and stop some cute hoor stealing your idea from here. that trailor idea is very good,and they would sell to every landscaping crowd in the country!
some serious money could be made from that trailor......

too late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6TnXAuBQ0

Stella Virgo

rangler1 wrote: »

Stella Virgo wrote: »

too late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6TnXAuBQ0

the same principle applies to any of the "inventions" on display here....if it works well, it will taken and mass produced by some engineering firm.
patent it first, then show it off to the world.

king_m

_Brian wrote: »

heres a bit if kit we made up.
Our slatted shed was all singles up to last spring when we had to change the slats for gangs. We'd been lifting te singles with a set if hooks.
The crappy design I the shed meant no agitating point would work.

So we have a gang slat split in half inside the door.
Hi Brian, just a question how did you split the gang slat, was it with a conc saw and cut from from the top and bottom, looking to do something very similar with my own tank, a three bay with agitation point on one end, it takes an eternity in the summer to agitate as it is not put out until after silage...

_Brian

king_m wrote: »

_Brian wrote: »

heres a bit if kit we made up.
Our slatted shed was all singles up to last spring when we had to change the slats for gangs. We'd been lifting te singles with a set if hooks.
The crappy design I the shed meant no agitating point would work.

So we have a gang slat split in half inside the door.
Hi Brian, just a question how did you split the gang slat, was it with a conc saw and cut from from the top and bottom, looking to do something very similar with my own tank, a three bay with agitation point on one end, it takes an eternity in the summer to agitate as it is not put out until after silage...

Yea split with con saw but supplier split them for me.

Johnsey

Is it necessary to be able to lift the sheep up ? Could the sheep not walk up a short ramp onto a platform at table height and this could b mounted on wheels for moving around .most sheep around lambing time will follow a bucket anywhere. I'm not able to post pictures but if you google goat milking stand you might see the idea I'm talking about. I find the simpler these things are kept the better they work

Reggie.

Pics of the bale extension

Reggie.

More. This is how it's connected to the trailer

JohnBoy

Dunno reggie.

apart from the duct taped pipe that looks a bit tidy to be guntering

Reggie.

JohnBoy wrote: »

Dunno reggie.

apart from the duct taped pipe that looks a bit tidy to be guntering

I thought the pipe would make it qualify for guntering

Muckit

Reggie. wrote: »

Pics ofbale extension

Good man. Was thinking would have to slide into chassis. I think nugent do a similar job. Have you a pic from underneath of where it slides into chassis?? Thanks

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

Good man. Was thinking would have to slide into chassis. I think nugent do a similar job. Have you a pic from underneath of where it slides into chassis?? Thanks

Here ya are Muckit. Now if only my bootiful assistant Kovu could embed the pics please

_Brian

Reggie.. I'll be nosey..
Are the uprights of your shed 3" Gun-barrel ?? Am I right from the pics that the roof is structurally all timber?? Did you do the shed yourself ??

rangler1

Reggie. wrote: »

Here ya are Muckit. Now if only my bootiful assistant Kovu could embed the pics please

I've done my trailer the same way, more greedy than you, extended the trailer by a full bale

just do it

_Brian wrote: »

Reggie.. I'll be nosey..
Are the uprights of your shed 3" Gun-barrel ?? Am I right from the pics that the roof is structurally all timber?? Did you do the shed yourself ??

You're not the first one to ask. He'll be along shortly once nappy duties are out of the way

Reggie.

just do it wrote: »

You're not the first one to ask. He'll be along shortly once nappy duties are out of the way

How did you know it's bedtime

just do it

Reggie. wrote: »

How did you know it's bedtime

I'm off duty tonight

Muckit

Thanks for pics Reggie. I suppose it's a loader job to shove on and off?

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Reggie.. I'll be nosey..
Are the uprights of your shed 3" Gun-barrel ?? Am I right from the pics that the roof is structurally all timber?? Did you do the shed yourself ??

6" and 5" gun barrel. And the roof is all timber. I helped to build it but can't take much credit. Did put up the uprights myself tho

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

Thanks for pics Reggie. I suppose it's a loader job to shove on and off?

No I can get the bottom part on by myself with a little struggle but it's really a 2 man job. The racks are a loader job tho

Reggie.

just do it wrote: »

I'm off duty tonight

Well I only get to do the last bottle with the day job so have to have the quality time

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Reggie.. I'll be nosey..
Are the uprights of your shed 3" Gun-barrel ?? Am I right from the pics that the roof is structurally all timber?? Did you do the shed yourself ??

Here ya are Brian
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057270612/3

delaney001

C0N0R wrote: »

I guess once you have the headlands done you just pick a straight border. Does it hold much more than a bag? How do you keep tail door shut?

That is tidy looking work. Would it be possible to make a 2ft chute to come off the back of the mower into the trailer. If it was made of something flexible, like the pipe for sucking up slurry, it would bend rather than break. When it comes in contact with the edges of the trailer on a v tight turn, it would press against them and maybe close in a bit but would help with loosing grass.

Nekarsulm

Two pics of a guard for the tractor, made from the frame of one of those elevating hospital trolley's. Opens like the door of a Massey 2640, for those of you old enough to remember. Also made a plywood guard for the engine side panel.

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Two pics of a guard for the tractor, made from the frame of one of those elevating hospital trolley's. Opens like the door of a Massey 2640, for those of you old enough to remember. Also made a plywood guard for the engine side panel.

Very tasty

dharn

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Two pics of a guard for the tractor, made from the frame of one of those elevating hospital trolley's. Opens like the door of a Massey 2640, for those of you old enough to remember. Also made a plywood guard for the engine side panel.

Nott much good for keeping out wind and rain :mad:

Nekarsulm

dharn wrote: »

Nott much good for keeping out wind and rain :mad:

I have a new glass in the shed, but door frame needs a bit of welding first. Fiats are famous for letting the entire glass fall out if you hit a sudden rut.

Never let a passenger lean up against the door glass, due to the design of the rubber seal, you could easily end up driving across them.

dharn

Ya had an 80-90 best engine for torque I ever had, but the cab bonnet etc rusted off it