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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Was thinking of putting up shelving as storage. Would it be cheaper to buy or build? I wouldn't be familiar with steel prices. These look cheap and capable weight wise. https://www.screwfix.ie/p/heavy-duty-shelving-900-x-450-x-1800mm/2817r


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭893bet


    timple23 wrote: »
    Was thinking of putting up shelving as storage. Would it be cheaper to buy or build? I wouldn't be familiar with steel prices. These look cheap and capable weight wise. https://www.screwfix.ie/p/heavy-duty-shelving-900-x-450-x-1800mm/2817r

    They are the finest to be honest for most things. They are very light but strong. I have 5 cable tied together and to the wall and they are grand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    timple23 wrote: »
    Was thinking of putting up shelving as storage. Would it be cheaper to buy or build? I wouldn't be familiar with steel prices. These look cheap and capable weight wise. https://www.screwfix.ie/p/heavy-duty-shelving-900-x-450-x-1800mm/2817r

    You are unlikely to build something like them cheaper unless you have suitable materials lying about already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Tileman


    I bought some from rackzone earlier in the year. Decent quality for price and make the Workshop look better


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Aravo


    From rackzone. Second hand but like new. Easy to assemble and adjust if wanted


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Looks decent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Lads just to update. Thanks for all the replies and ideas I kinda took half of stonewalls idea and bought two 10ft sheep penning gates this morning in the Co-OP. I welded two small bits of box to the rsj and I budged a plate into the wall and got some concrete screws for that into the house wall, thanks to stock for the suggestion. With the eyes on the gates turned out to be the exact fit for the span and I have some stokboard which I will tex screw onto it tomorrow. Please ignore the welding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    Lads just to update. Thanks for all the replies and ideas I kinda took half of stonewalls idea and bought two 10ft sheep penning gates this morning in the Co-OP. I welded two small bits of box to the rsj and I budged a plate into the wall and got some concrete screws for that into the house wall, thanks to stock for the suggestion. With the eyes on the gates turned out to be the exact fit for the span and I have some stokboard which I will tex screw onto it tomorrow. Please ignore the welding.

    Nothing too wrong with that, fairplay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Aravo


    emaherx wrote: »
    Looks decent.

    Originally I was thinking of making my own shelving out of timber and plywood. With heading off buying stuff, using a few hundred screws, making it, it would all take time, and making adjustments down the line would be very time consuming. I then went to rackzone with the intention of buying similar to the screw fix image. Came home with much better shelving. Each unit is 9ft long, 3ft deep and 8ft high. Very good quality, even got the sheeting for each level there. So no cutting sheets and a lot of waste.
    A few people have seen it and were impressed with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Aravo wrote: »
    Originally I was thinking of making my own shelving out of timber and plywood. With heading off buying stuff, using a few hundred screws, making it, it would all take time, and making adjustments down the line would be very time consuming. I then went to rackzone with the intention of buying similar to the screw fix image. Came home with much better shelving. Each unit is 9ft long, 3ft deep and 8ft high. Very good quality, even got the sheeting for each level there. So no cutting sheets and a lot of waste.
    A few people have seen it and were impressed with it.

    What was the lolly for those shelves?? Look a great job.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Aravo


    cjpm wrote: »
    What was the lolly for those shelves?? Look a great job.

    It works out at 20-25 per cent more expensive than the screwfix type shelf. That's based on how many of the screwfix ones I would need of the 1.8x0.9x.45 to fill the volume of the shelving than I got. Also with this heavy shelving, it cannot be pulled down, so from a safety point of view its a big bonus especially if there are little ones about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Dunno if ye watch much YouTube stuff, but this lad is worth following. He makes ingenious inventions! The motivation for this most recent one will resonate with most lads here I’d say!

    https://youtu.be/ktaaxc8ErPE


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    bamayang wrote: »
    Dunno if ye watch much YouTube stuff, but this lad is worth following. He makes ingenious inventions! The motivation for this most recent one will resonate with most lads here I’d say!

    https://youtu.be/ktaaxc8ErPE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9EW8rxxPk this yoke he built is class


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    bamayang wrote: »
    Dunno if ye watch much YouTube stuff, but this lad is worth following. He makes ingenious inventions! The motivation for this most recent one will resonate with most lads here I’d say!

    https://youtu.be/ktaaxc8ErPE

    Yes, he's featured in this thread before. Very tasty work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Just wondering if anyone has made up an hydraulic ram system for moving a roller on wheels. Photographs and tips welcome


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Thanks, looking to build up one here and wondering what the standard dimensions are. I think internal heights are around 6ft and overall height around the 10ft mark.

    Just happened to have the tape out today.
    2.5 foot from ground to floor.
    7 foot from floor to roof.
    Rear door is the full 7 foot.

    Hope that helps you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,215 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    Just happened to have the tape out today.
    2.5 foot from ground to floor.
    7 foot from floor to roof.
    Rear door is the full 7 foot.

    Hope that helps you.

    Great thanks. We'll have to drop the roof height on ours to get it fitting into shed. I think it might be more work than it's worth and it might be a bit too tight for some of the lanes, but we'll see what happens.

    Anyhow thanks for checking that for me. You made a good purchase there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Made a wire pullers for sheep netting today. Not within an asses roar of anything ye boys are capable of but my first time really welding anything so im happy how it turned out.


    https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjLN

    https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNba


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    Made a wire pullers for sheep netting today. Not within an asses roar of anything ye boys are capable of but my first time really welding anything so im happy how it turned out.


    https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjLN

    https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNba

    Will you feed the wire through and then attach gripples to hold it ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    Made a wire pullers for sheep netting today. Not within an asses roar of anything ye boys are capable of but my first time really welding anything so im happy how it turned out.


    https://flic.kr/p/2iXhjLN

    https://flic.kr/p/2iXfNba

    Do the job 100% as well as a bought one.
    Plus the satisfaction of something you've made yourself.

    08YGvXd.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Do the job 100% as well as a bought one.
    Plus the satisfaction of something you've made yourself.

    08YGvXd.jpg

    Very nice. Do you have to open all 5 bolts each time to move it on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    bamayang wrote: »
    Very nice. Do you have to open all 5 bolts each time to move it on?

    Could weld on a piece of 20mm flat x 100mm long onto the top of the bolt to help opening and closing them. Save having to get a wrench to it everytime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Yes, have to open them all each time you move it.#
    A bit of a handle on each nut would be handy, right enough, you could always guve the handle a knock of the hammer if you thought they weren't tight enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Yes, have to open them all each time you move it.#
    A bit of a handle on each nut would be handy, right enough, you could always guve the handle a knock of the hammer if you thought they weren't tight enough.

    If you had one long bar and lots of little L shaped hooks, could you have it work that you wouldn’t have to tighten or loosen anything, just hook onto wire, pull tight and slip it off, might quicken it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    bamayang wrote: »
    If you had one long bar and lots of little L shaped hooks, could you have it work that you wouldn’t have to tighten or loosen anything, just hook onto wire, pull tight and slip it off, might quicken it.

    it takes less than 5 mins to get on or off so i was happy to have it like that and keep the strain on it. I have a ratchet spanner so very fast.

    We pulled a stretch this morning and it worked the finest. Saves paying contractor!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    it takes less than 5 mins to get on or off so i was happy to have it like that and keep the strain on it. I have a ratchet spanner so very fast.

    We pulled a stretch this morning and it worked the finest. Saves paying contractor!!

    Made one yrs ago. Very handy have a battery nut runner and welded bolts in. Have it on in less than a minute


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    it takes less than 5 mins to get on or off so i was happy to have it like that and keep the strain on it. I have a ratchet spanner so very fast.

    We pulled a stretch this morning and it worked the finest. Saves paying contractor!!

    I use a ratchet and socket, I have nuts with handles originally but i replaced them with ordinary nuts, tightens better with the ratchet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    bamayang wrote: »
    If you had one long bar and lots of little L shaped hooks, could you have it work that you wouldn’t have to tighten or loosen anything, just hook onto wire, pull tight and slip it off, might quicken it.

    Nope, no good.
    The vertical wires will pull along the horizontal ones, and it'll be a mess.
    I have a washer under each nut, to make it a bit easier tightening them, and the biggest time waster is when you drop a washer or nut into long grass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭richie123


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Nope, no good.
    The vertical wires will pull along the horizontal ones, and it'll be a mess.
    I have a washer under each nut, to make it a bit easier tightening them, and the biggest time waster is when you drop a washer or nut into long grass.

    Weld on 4 inch long bars to the nuts you'd do it very quick and do away with rachet and socket quicker tighten them up too.one less tool to lose also (rachet)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    richie123 wrote: »
    Weld on 4 inch long bars to the nuts you'd do it very quick and do away with rachet and socket quicker tighten them up too.one less tool to lose also (rachet)

    Dont think youd get it as tight tbh


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