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Labour Saving and General Guntering

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Not Strictly agricultural, except agricultural looking compared to the ones charging £600.

    All it cost was the price of the bolts, everything else was lying about the yard. The slide was got from a skip and the intention was just to make a set of steps for it, but the creative part of my brain decided to take over... now just for a lick of paint..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Not Strictly agricultural, except agricultural looking compared to the ones charging £600.

    All it cost was the price of the bolts, everything else was lying about the yard. The slide was got from a skip and the intention was just to make a set of steps for it, but the creative part of my brain decided to take over... now just for a lick of paint..

    Lovely job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Not Strictly agricultural, except agricultural looking compared to the ones charging £600.

    All it cost was the price of the bolts, everything else was lying about the yard. The slide was got from a skip and the intention was just to make a set of steps for it, but the creative part of my brain decided to take over... now just for a lick of paint..

    Savage job! Small one has me pestered for something simlar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    What do ye think of this?!

    https://youtu.be/7tM1lRvGZow

    God a stone wouldn't want to hit it or you could be missing the back of your head!! But amazing what can be:achieved with scrap, time and brains!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    A fitter/turner by trade, I'd say. Seriously good work in fairness. All he had to do was put a strong guard around it and it would have been fine safety wise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    lovely build in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Got a couple of slips on these cab steps recently, resulted in a couple of skinned shins and pulled something in the shoulder.
    Two extensions should solve the problem.

    There was a good article in Pratical farming recently about this. I read it after I lost a good cattle dog.
    Dog was up in the cab with me. I slowed to crawl coming to a gate, dog jumped out, dog put it's foot through the step like you have there,, got spun around, went under the wheel and died about 30 seconds later.. absolutely sickened.

    My advice...Put a grid or another bar across the step to stop that happening. Make it too small for a child's foot or a dogs paw to fit into...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Figerty wrote: »
    There was a good article in Pratical farming recently about this. I read it after I lost a good cattle dog.
    Dog was up in the cab with me. I slowed to crawl coming to a gate, dog jumped out, dog put it's foot through the step like you have there,, got spun around, went under the wheel and died about 30 seconds later.. absolutely sickened.

    My advice...Put a grid or another bar across the step to stop that happening. Make it too small for a child's foot or a dogs paw to fit into...[/QUOTE

    A neighbour put his foot through the steps when he was chasing a runaway tractor and was dragged for a long way, arm went under the back wheel and was smashed, but he survived to tell the tale.
    I got checker plate folded and bolted to the steps after my dog caught his foot in the steps of my new tractor on the first day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Muckit wrote:
    What do ye think of this?!

    That fella is some operator. Has some amount of kit too. Would love to be able to knock something together like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    A fitter/turner by trade, I'd say. Seriously good work in fairness. All he had to do was put a strong guard around it and it would have been fine safety wise.

    He would be a handy man to have around the place. What kind of welder is that he was using?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    sea12 wrote: »
    He would be a handy man to have around the place. What kind of welder is that he was using?

    MIG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    At this bodge job today. The skid on the topper came off.
    The whole side was rusted out so cut it off and welded 5mm plate back on.
    2016_06_21_16.jpg
    2016_06_21_16.jpg
    And finally when you're welding and a hole appears and you say ah it's only a small bit of rust it'll only take a little extra weld and this happens.
    2016_06_21_17.jpg
    Just have to weld the inside and drill holes for the skid and paint it and ready to go.
    Cost E8 for the 5mm plate and 10 rods so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    pedigree 6 wrote:
    Just have to weld the inside and drill holes for the skid and paint it and ready to go. Cost E8 for the 5mm plate and 10 rods so far.


    Tasty, very tasty work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Hi Pedigree6, nice job.
    Is that Abbey one with the shaft drive to the gearboxes?
    Do you have any trouble with it twisting shaft yoke ends?
    Mine drove me spare, the hardy Spicer yoke ends would twist before the shear bolt would snap.
    Ended up fitting a slip clutch between the 90 degree gearbox and the first rotor gearbox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Hi Pedigree6, nice job.
    Is that Abbey one with the shaft drive to the gearboxes?
    Do you have any trouble with it twisting shaft yoke ends?
    Mine drove me spare, the hardy Spicer yoke ends would twist before the sheer bolt would snap.
    Ended up fitting a slip clutch between the 90 degree gearbox and the first rotor gearbox.
    Here's mine.
    2016_06_21_20.jpg

    The shaft going to the last gearbox twisted alright and had to get a new one.
    But fairly indestructible. Do you leave the pto shaft attached to the tractor when transporting. I have to take it off the tractor and tie it up on the frame when moving and attach again when folded out.
    Edit: no don't have a slip clutch on it.
    Yes it is an abbey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    It depends on the tractor. I have a deere and you can fold the topper out into transport position with the shaft in place, but if it's on the Fiat you can't.
    The slip clutch is off a Class mower of some sort, springs slackened off fairly well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    It depends on the tractor. I have a deere and you can fold the topper out into transport position with the shaft in place, but if it's on the Fiat you can't.
    The slip clutch is off a Class mower of some sort, springs slackened off fairly well.
    Good job. :) I may make up new top covers for ya.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Good job. :) I may make up new top covers for ya.;)

    Gratefully recieved :D

    The young lassie is booked into a summer camp later in the summer in Cavan town. Instead of running home, starting to do something and then leaving it and driving back in to pick her up, I hope to be able to do a few lessons on Mig welding in the Arcs & Sparks training school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Don't do what i did. Did the FAS arc welding evening classes so.e years back. We'd to run a bead and join two pieces of flat together.

    The mask was all weld spatter (well that's my excuse anyways ) and half way through l managed to veer off course and ended up welding one piece solid to the work bench!!

    Some laugh from the boys when the instructor had to go get the angle grinder to cut it off!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    Don't do what i did. Did the FAS arc welding evening classes so.e years back. We'd to run a bead and join two pieces of flat together.

    The mask was all weld spatter (well that's my excuse anyways ) and half way through l managed to veer off course and ended up welding one piece solid to the work bench!!

    Some laugh from the boys when the instructor had to go get the angle grinder to cut it off!! :D
    That's where I learned to weld


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    pedigree 6. did you weld it vertically on the tractor? some welding if you did


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,714 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Nice bit of welding there P6, and no traces of a bolt buried in the big hole!

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's where I learned to weld
    Me and all .
    I'm thinking about buying a mig welder though for smaller metal, but have never used one . I wonder if the fact that I'm able to arc weld (kind of) be enough to buy and learn or should I do another course ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's where I learned to weld

    Twas in the FAS centre in moneenaguisha in Galway City that l did mine.

    I thought you would have done an apprenticeship through the army or are those days gone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    f140 wrote: »
    pedigree 6. did you weld it vertically on the tractor? some welding if you did

    Yea vertical.
    I got an inverter welder now and very good adjustment on it now to suit the metal.
    Also use vapormatic rods. Very good.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Yea vertical.
    I got an inverter welder now and very good adjustment on it now to suit the metal.
    Also use vapormatic rods. Very good.
    are you able to run the welder constant until the rod is used with the vertical welding or was there a lot of stop/staring?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    Twas in the FAS centre in moneenaguisha in Galway City that l did mine.

    I thought you would have done an apprenticeship through the army or are those days gone?

    Them days are pretty much gone now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    f140 wrote: »
    are you able to run the welder constant until the rod is used with the vertical welding or was there a lot of stop/staring?

    Yea constant. The piece was vertical but the weld was going sideways.
    Trickier doing up down weld on a vertical piece (if you know what I mean).
    Some good vids on YouTube now.
    God I might get a job out of all this.:D;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 EJ88


    O.A.P wrote: »
    Me and all .
    I'm thinking about buying a mig welder though for smaller metal, but have never used one . I wonder if the fact that I'm able to arc weld (kind of) be enough to buy and learn or should I do another course ?

    Mig was the easiest type of welding I learned. It's basically set up your welder and keep the hand speed steady. Ever since I bought a Mig, the stick welder gathers dust.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.

    Not a good idea unless you can certify your welding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭queueeye


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.

    Made one using screen grab from donedeal as a pattern. Shear grab ram, works a treat. Measure twice and cut once, be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.
    Vertical or horizontal? We made one years ago of a light girder as a frame,welded on a 3 point linkage and set up the ram with the controls of a old teleporter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    And they are all sitting up idle now. You still have to handball them on and off them. And ttactor ticking over the whole time. Could never see a use for them.

    You'll split biggest of them tipping around the edges. Use a chainsaw to put a few nicks on troublesome ones then good maul or sledge and steel wedge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭queueeye


    Muckit wrote: »
    And they are all sitting up idle now. You still have to handball them on and off them. And ttactor ticking over the whole time. Could never see a use for them.

    You'll split biggest of them tipping around the edges. Use a chainsaw to put a few nicks on troublesome ones then good maul or sledge and steel wedge.

    Idle now yes. But then I don't use it during the summer. If I'm to follow your rationale should I flog the combine too and go back to the scythe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭mengele


    IH784man wrote: »
    Vertical or horizontal? We made one years ago of a light girder as a frame,welded on a 3 point linkage and set up the ram with the controls of a old teleporter

    I think the horizontal seem to be a better job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Muckit wrote: »
    And they are all sitting up idle now. You still have to handball them on and off them. And ttactor ticking over the whole time. Could never see a use for them.

    You'll split biggest of them tipping around the edges. Use a chainsaw to put a few nicks on troublesome ones then good maul or sledge and steel wedge.
    The parents house and sisters house are fully heated with solid fuel and I just have a stove in the sitting room , I can cut with tractor saw and split with the splitter for the lot in a few whiles of days . I wouldn't like to be tipping with the chainsaw and hatchet .
    If I get nice timber I do an hour or so with the hatchet alright just to keep my eye in as they say !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.

    I have the cylinder and I-beams already so only need the valve, 2 hoses and a few hours welding to finish. Whenever I get the free time.
    Ideally you should have a separate pressure relief on the splitter, two hand operation and the cylinder should only move when the valve is operated. Safety first and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    queueeye wrote: »
    Idle now yes. But then I don't use it during the summer. If I'm to follow your rationale should I flog the combine too and go back to the scythe?

    No silly. Get a contractor. Look at all the shed space you'd save!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭9935452


    Reggie. wrote: »
    f140 wrote: »
    anyone ever make a log splitter. I have an old ram off a shear grab and was half thinking of making one in the winter.

    Not a good idea unless you can certify your welding

    Out of curiosity why would you say that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I suppose for fear someone got a ram in the face!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    9935452 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity why would you say that.

    If something went wrong no farm insurance will cover ya. All welding now has to be certified aswell for insurance. Plus on the negative side there is slot of pressure on the ram when it's pushing through a block in fairness.

    I have a homemade one. I made the pieces but got the welding done by a professional. At the end it was feck all cheaper than a bought one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    The nanny state rides again. Sure we might as well sell the welders and grinders so. Make it an offence to own a welder without a certificate of competence. More H&S bureaucracy keeping people in cushy jobs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    H&S is s joke until someone gets seriously injured or killed. But sure we know that doesn't happen on Irish farms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭9935452


    Reggie. wrote: »
    9935452 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity why would you say that.

    If something went wrong no farm insurance will cover ya. All welding now has to be certified aswell for insurance. Plus on the negative side there is slot of pressure on the ram when it's pushing through a block in fairness.

    I have a homemade one. I made the pieces but got the welding done by a professional. At the end it was feck all cheaper than a bought one.

    What about all the welding that was done in the past. Repairs and home made machinery. Do we need to dump all of it or get it certified.
    The reason I ask is we have a good share or home made machinery at home which by and large is stronger than what is available on the market.
    One of which is a logsplitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    9935452 wrote: »
    What about all the welding that was done in the past. Repairs and home made machinery. Do we need to dump all of it or get it certified.
    The reason I ask is we have a good share or home made machinery at home which by and large is stronger than what is available on the market.
    One of which is a logsplitter.

    If something happens insurance will ask who made the machine or who repaired it. Only right in fairness once lives are spared. I'm on about critical repairs or load bearing items


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭Conor556


    One I made a few years ago, 20 tonne ram,

    Snapchat-864864861208394603.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    9935452 wrote: »
    What about all the welding that was done in the past. Repairs and home made machinery. Do we need to dump all of it or get it certified.
    The reason I ask is we have a good share or home made machinery at home which by and large is stronger than what is available on the market.
    One of which is a logsplitter.

    Just don't post pictures to the 'net of anything more complex than the "spud" of a gate.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,895 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Just don't post pictures to the 'net of anything more complex than the "spud" of a gate.......

    A welded spud?? Are you joking? Serious trip hazard there:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    O.A.P wrote: »
    Me and all .
    I'm thinking about buying a mig welder though for smaller metal, but have never used one . I wonder if the fact that I'm able to arc weld (kind of) be enough to buy and learn or should I do another course ?

    90% of the work with MIG is setting up the machine, getting your voltages and feed speed correct, the rest is point and click.
    Do your research before buying one though, there's an awful lot of shyte out there.


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