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Loyalist UVF group in arms move

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    junder wrote: »
    Terms like foreigner and squatter are hardly very socialist terms now are they, that is the sort of language one would expect of the BNP. As for history thanks but i will stick to reading academic books rather then listening to romantic revisionism that is the stock in trade of your average republican. Incidentally can you actually prove that i am indeed a foreigner, last time i checked protestant/catholics, nationalist/unionists tend to look the same so i am willing to bet that genealogically speaking there is little or nothing to separate the two peoples either so the term foreigner is not only highly offensive but also highly inaccurate after all can you prove that you have a unblemished un-tainted bloodline running back to the original inhabitants of this island, maybe you have a good dose of Norman or viking blood running through your veins, who is to say that genealogically speaking and using your terminology that you are not more 'foreign' then me.

    I will deal with the start as the rest is just stirring. If you want a history lesson on a tyrrant just read cromwell and dresss it any way you want I am not getting into games when as I said you know how settlement came about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    futurehope wrote: »
    Your comment about innocent people being killed is interesting. Let me explain to you the facts of life as they applied in Ulster during ‘The Troubles’. The IRA and their fellow travellers refused to wear uniforms or other clear markings (as demanded by The Geneva Convention) when involved in military engagement. As a result it was impossible for the police and army to bring to bare their overwhelming military superiority. Thus the rules of engagement were set by Republicans. This being the case Loyalist paramilitaries felt they had no option but to target The Nationalist support base of The IRA with a view to forcing The Nationalist community to bring pressure to bare on militant Republicans to call off their campaign. Had they not taken this course of action it is possible that the war would have been lost, democracy overthrown and a United Ireland created. Whilst I deeply regret the loss of any human lives, the responsibility for all the deaths that occurred resides firmly with The Republican movement. It is also worth baring in mind that The IRA had substantial support within The Nationalist community and that this was not limited to them voting in large numbers for The IRA’s political wing, Sinn Fein.

    Nice excuse to excuse slaughtering innocents civilians of all ages just because they had the 'wrong' religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    junder wrote: »
    Racism, tell me does that apply to all foreigners or just those from the unionist tradition?
    Is that an admission that unionists are foreigners?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    Hagar wrote: »
    Is that an admission that unionists are foreigners?

    Well, they do consider themselves such tbh...


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Not even 40 posts, and this thread has developed into the usual Nordie trainwreck.

    The topic is the decommissioning of arms by a Loyalist group. If anyone wants to talk about that, feel free. If it continues in the current vein, it will be locked PDQ.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭DoireNod


    Agreed; but what's this?
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Not even 40 posts, and this thread has developed into the usual Nordie trainwreck.
    The topic is the decommissioning of arms by a Loyalist group. If anyone wants to talk about that, feel free. If it continues in the current vein, it will be locked PDQ.

    I don't want to see this thread locked simply because it began to discuss elements of the Troubles and history which contributed to the current situation. Thanks for the warning. :)

    With regard to the topic at hand, my post #15 sums up my thoughts on the matter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    Well, they do consider themselves such tbh...
    you are correct we do consider ourselves to be 'foreigners' in the Republic of Ireland since the Republic of Ireland is 'foreign' country to us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    junder wrote: »
    you are correct we do consider ourselves to be 'foreigners' in the Republic of Ireland since the Republic of Ireland is 'foreign' country to us
    You post didn't refer to the Republic though did it? A Freudian slip methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    junder wrote: »
    you are correct we do consider ourselves to be 'foreigners' in the Republic of Ireland since the Republic of Ireland is 'foreign' country to us


    Junder ????

    The same junder from PULSE ????

    Need i say more :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    Hagar wrote: »
    You post didn't refer to the Republic though did it? A Freudian slip methinks.
    neither did i agree that unionist were foreigners either i was merely qouting the langauge that was used to discribe my community


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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    luckyfrank wrote: »
    Junder ????

    The same junder from PULSE ????

    Need i say more :rolleyes:
    Evidently not.


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