LRO away

lostexpectation

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/06/18/launch-images-from-lrolcross-successfull-liftoff/

love the video as it goes all the way to 'space'

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/06/18/lrolcross-ready-for-launch-to-the-moon/

to study the moon for 'polar' regions and crash an pod into to look for water in the debris

i personally can't wait for them to _land_ things on the moon again

lord lucan

I'm really looking forward to this too. I was born after the apollo missions and yet i still get excited watching the old footage. Would love to see man land on the moon in my lifetime!

Beeker

lord lucan wrote: »

I'm really looking forward to this too. I was born after the apollo missions and yet i still get excited watching the old footage. Would love to see man land on the moon in my lifetime!

The year 2020 or shortly after fingers crossed. One other benefit of LRO is its ability to image very closeup on the lunar surface. It should be enough to image the original Apollo landing sites and hopefully shut the "lunar hoaxers" up, once and for all.

lord lucan

Beeker wrote: »

The year 2020 or shortly after fingers crossed. One other benefit of LRO is its ability to image very closeup on the lunar surface. It should be enough to image the original Apollo landing sites and hopefully shut the "lunar hoaxers" up, once and for all.

It'll take more than a few pictures to shut them up,they'll just say they were photoshopped by NASA in houston or something!:rolleyes:

lostexpectation

did the japanese vehicle not photo these sites?

Beeker

lostexpectation wrote: »

did the japanese vehicle not photo these sites?

Yes but not with high enough resolution to make out the site

spacetweek

Amazing video! When it passed out of the atmosphere, didn't the flames look strange? Like CGI flames.

Beeker

spacetweek wrote: »

Amazing video! When it passed out of the atmosphere, didn't the flames look strange? Like CGI flames.

Yeah very cool, you see the same thing with Shuttle launches. It is caused by the low air pressure and at that altitude.

lord lucan

First pics are being beamed back already.

http://spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av020/090702firstpix/

Ostrom

lord lucan wrote: »

First pics are being beamed back already.

http://spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av020/090702firstpix/

Amazing

Is it building the lunar map pushbroom-style? As in are they mapping it by photographing the surface at that res then piecing together?

Mahatma coat

So how long before we have photos of the Luna and apollo sites?


Also this Crash bit, and the subsequent Plume, will they be able to confirm/deny this Helium 3 thing??

InvisibleBadger

It would be really cool if they could get photos of the Apollo sites,
I've been watching the Apollo documentaries on BBC4 for the last week, and those missions are some the most amazing/inspiring achievements of man.

Beeker

InvisibleBadger wrote: »

It would be really cool if they could get photos of the Apollo sites,
I've been watching the Apollo documentaries on BBC4 for the last week, and those missions are some the most amazing/inspiring achievements of man.

They will get the photos of the sites over the next few months. It is said that Google are going to set up a new Google Moon site which will provide close uo views of the moon including the Apollo sites. Something like Google Earth.

briktop

ah come on lads , its obvious as hell that most, if not all of apollo was faked

I was a serious apollo fan since being a tiny kid ,and i saw the last moon landing - so they say on - tv .

had all the pics, the models , the books ,
and after looking into the details on the web , its saddingly obvious even to a die hard fan like me that they faked the majority of it .

i was truly sickened when the penny dropped but - apollo just didnt happen .

and you know what gives it away the most ?

its the reaction of the 11 crew in the post landing press conference
these lads are obviously lying, and are themselves sickened by what they are doing - watch mike collins whip around at the start to look at armstrong - as armstrongs voice breaks as he forces himself to lie .
collins is worried neal is gonna flip . armstrong is battling serious demons here.
do they look happy ? , successful ? proud ? do they hell !!

have a look , from 3 mins in - and say to yourself - are these men telling the truth ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1535324572487804641

they are so obviously lying , anyone can see by the body language
and they are sickened by it themselves.


this above all evidence convinced me it was a sham .
and it still sickens me .


and you will never see photos of the landing sites released.

Ostrom

briktop wrote: »

and you know what gives it away the most ?

they are so obviously lying , anyone can see by the body language
and they are sickened by it themselves.

My god, why didn't you tell the world sooner?

briktop wrote: »

and you will never see photos of the landing sites released.

Sure



Whats with all the CT trolling here?

lord lucan

briktop wrote: »

ah come on lads , its obvious as hell that most, if not all of apollo was faked

I was a serious apollo fan since being a tiny kid ,and i saw the last moon landing - so they say on - tv .

had all the pics, the models , the books ,
and after looking into the details on the web , its saddingly obvious even to a die hard fan like me that they faked the majority of it .

i was truly sickened when the penny dropped but - apollo just didnt happen .

and you know what gives it away the most ?

its the reaction of the 11 crew in the post landing press conference
these lads are obviously lying, and are themselves sickened by what they are doing - watch mike collins whip around at the start to look at armstrong - as armstrongs voice breaks as he forces himself to lie .
collins is worried neal is gonna flip . armstrong is battling serious demons here.
do they look happy ? , successful ? proud ? do they hell !!

have a look , from 3 mins in - and say to yourself - are these men telling the truth ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1535324572487804641

they are so obviously lying , anyone can see by the body language
and they are sickened by it themselves.


this above all evidence convinced me it was a sham .
and it still sickens me .


and you will never see photos of the landing sites released.

You convinced me!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

briktop

not trolling at all, been an astronomy and space buff all my life .
but NASA are a bunch of gigantic liars , and make a mockery of science .


the fact that :

1/ if you are alive - you cannot fly through the van allen radition belts without getting fried - machines can - men cant .

2/ the cameras and film used on the moon would not have survived the temperature changes and the radiation on the moon surface.

3/ the cameras had no view finders - and had to be guessed to shoot at targets - yet
some of the most amazingly composed photos are magically shot by this method


its didnt happen .

Beeker

briktop wrote: »

not trolling at all, been an astronomy and space buff all my life .
but NASA are a bunch of gigantic liars , and make a mockery of science .


the fact that :

1/ if you are alive - you cannot fly through the van allen radition belts without getting fried - machines can - men cant .

Yes they can and did. Humans can withstand the radition for short periods of time. It only took them a few hours to pass through the belts. They would needed to stay in the belts for days to have received enough radiation to do any harm.

briktop wrote: »

2/ the cameras and film used on the moon would not have survived the temperature changes and the radiation on the moon surface.

Yes they would and did! Kodak and many photographic experts have repeatly stated this.

briktop wrote: »

3/ the cameras had no view finders - and had to be guessed to shoot at targets - yet some of the most amazingly composed photos are magically shot by this method its didnt happen .

No magic involved, you just point and shoot. Not all the apollo shots are amazing. They shot hundreds of photos and then picked out the best for publication.

Look use some common sense here.
1/ If the Americans tried to fake, the first to call foul would have been the USSR. They were in a race and each monitered each others progress and transmissions closly. They would have known and trust me so would the world.

2/ To fake the landings you would have had to get hundreds if not thousands of people to keep it quite not just then but for the last 40 years. It would have been easier just to land on the moon.

3/ The rocks returned from the moon contain minerals not present in earth rocks. Theses rocks have been examined by universities all over the world including China and Russia. Any foul play would have been reported.

4/ All the Apollo landing crews left scientific instruments on the moon which transmitted info back to Earth, not just to NASA but to institutes accross the USA. These institutes would have known if the data was not originating from the Moon.

5/ All the Apollo landing crews left reflectors on the moon which are still used today to fire laser beams at them to measure the distance to the moon and record any changes. If those reflectors were not there what are the lasers bouncing off?

6/ If you are going to fake and try to get away with it, fine but why do it six times?

Get real it did happen!

By the way that news conference looks normal to me. Dont forget that these guys were test pilots and in general were very uncomfortable with public speaking, especially Armstrong

Mahatma coat

Ah now there are a lot of Conspiracies ascosciated with the moon landings, and I have no doubt that Armstrong and Aldrin are hiding something, tis quite possible they were watched by something as yet Unidentified.

But they went to the moon, they still aint tellin us the whole truth about what transpired up there, but they went.

anyway as I said ina diferent thread, I'll save my overawedness at the whole thing for the moment they find Alan Shepherd's Golf ball

cyrusdvirus

Mahatma coat wrote: »

anyway as I said ina diferent thread, I'll save my overawedness at the whole thing for the moment they find Alan Shepherd's Golf ball

Personally i feel something like that should be left undisturbed.

And there were 2 or 3 weren't there?

Mahatma coat

What, and let him offwith a drop Shot??

Moon or not the rules of Golf still apply :D:D:D:D


But anyway we Digress.

the other point of interest thats poppin back up is Helium 3, whats the story wit it?????

lord lucan

Whilst the impact on the Moon and pictures of the landing sites got all the attention,the LRO is still in research mode. One of its elements,the Diviner,will measure the Moons temperature whilst the sun is blocked by Earth in a couple of days time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUL3RdQDryE

AugustusMinimus

Mahatma coat wrote: »

What, and let him offwith a drop Shot??

Moon or not the rules of Golf still apply :D:D:D:D


But anyway we Digress.

the other point of interest thats poppin back up is Helium 3, whats the story wit it?????

Is Helium 3 really that valueable that it would cause a race to get back to the moon to mine it ?

If there were solid bars of gold stacked on the moon, you would still make a loss getting them back to earth at present.

Beeker

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is Helium 3 really that valueable that it would cause a race to get back to the moon to mine it ?

If there were solid bars of gold stacked on the moon, you would still make a loss getting them back to earth at present.

I think Helium 3 is only valuable as a fuel for nuclear fusion. So until we master nuclear fusion it is of no real value. At least thats my understanding.