Suspected Veronica Guerin Killer dead

Gary ITR

The man widely suspected of being the shooter that murdered Veronica Guerin has died in prison

Irish criminal Patrick ‘Dutchy’ Holland has died in prison in the UK.

He was found dead in his cell at around 6am this morning and the British Prison Service said he is thought to have died of natural causes.

An investigation will now be carried out by the UK's Prisons and Probation Ombudsman, as is normal procedure.

Holland was jailed in 2008 for his part in a plot to kidnap a London businessman.

He is long suspected to have been linked to the murder of journalist Veronica Guerin, but has never been tried for the killing.

I'd like to see more of these criminals die behind bars

TheZohanS

No loss.

brummytom

I thought it was Brian Meehan who killed her?

Gary ITR

brummytom wrote: »

I thought it was Brian Meehan who killed her?

He drove the bike

!

Onkle wrote: »

He drove the bike

Allegedly

markok84

he was an odd character, didn't he work in the USA for a few years as a contract killer? He's no loss anyway

brummytom

Onkle wrote: »

He drove the bike

Oh ok, my mistake.. sorry

Gary ITR

! wrote: »

Allegedly

He was the only person ever convicted of the murder of Veronica Guerin, so not so allegedly

markok84

! wrote: »

Allegedly

he was convicted.

!

We don't know. It could have been

Jonathon Gilligan
Paul Ward
Brian Meehan
Johnny Traynor...

We will never know for sure!

wudangclan

Onkle wrote: »

He was the only person ever convicted of the murder of Veronica Guerin, so not so allegedly

he wasn't.brian meehan was,i think.
holland was named in court by states witness,charlie bowden ,as the trigger man,but never convicted of said crime.

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Onkle wrote: »

He was the only person ever convicted of the murder of Veronica Guerin, so not so allegedly

But should he have been convicted any more than Jonathon Gilligan?

I doubt it. Not much evidence. What about Fatpuss Bradley?

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wudangclan wrote: »

he wasn't.brian meehan was,i think.
holland was named in court by states witness,charlie bowden ,as the trigger man,but never convicted of said crime.

You didn't read the whole thread, did you?

Gary ITR

! wrote: »

We don't know. It could have been

Jonathon Gilligan
Paul Ward
Brian Meehan
Johnny Traynor...

We will never know for sure!

Point is he was convicted of it.

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Onkle wrote: »

Point is he was convicted of it.

Yes. That is true. But we don't know anything for sure now, do we?

Kiera

Why do scumbags make the news? Who gives a crap that he's dead?

!

Kiera wrote: »

Why do scumbags make the news? Who gives a crap that he's dead?

Obviously not yourself! Don't say that too loud. I'm sure plenty of people love the man.

wudangclan

! wrote: »

You didn't read the whole thread, did you?

yes,i did!

!

wudangclan wrote: »

yes,i did.

Then you would have seen he was referring to Brian Meehan not Patrick.

wudangclan

! wrote: »

Then you would have seen he was referring to Brian Meehan not Patrick.

my bad

admiralofthefleet

why was he in jail in the UK and not here?

wudangclan

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

why was he in jail in the UK and not here?

attempted kidnapping

!

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

why was he in jail in the UK and not here?

He'd be too close to Jonathon Gilligan, I think was the reason.

Kiera

! wrote: »

Obviously not yourself! Don't say that too loud. I'm sure plenty of people love the man.

Well i'm good friends wih Veronica's nephew so think anyone related to that are complete and utter scum. But even if i wasnt, they still killed an innocent women/person and should have been shot on the spot.

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Kiera wrote: »

Well i'm good friends wih Veronica's nephew so think anyone related to that are complete and utter scum. But even if i wasnt, they still killed an innocent women/person and should have been shot on the spot.

Right.

Gary ITR

! wrote: »

Yes. That is true. But we don't know anything for sure now, do we?

It was proved in court. That's enough for me not to type ALLEGEDLY

! wrote: »

He'd be too close to Jonathon Gilligan, I think was the reason.

What tripe. He was charged with kidnap in the UK

galwayrush

Another scumbag departed.:)

!

galwayrush wrote: »

Another scumbag departed.:)

Let's not start calling people names, shall we.

Gary ITR

! wrote: »

Let's not start calling people names, shall we.

Why not? He was scum. He'll always be remembered as scum.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck.....

Biggins

One less scumbag in the world. No loss. End of story.

Local-womanizer

! wrote: »

Let's not start calling people names, shall we.

Another low life murdering no good citizen will do then.


No loss.

galwayrush

! wrote: »

Let's not start calling people names, shall we.

He lived a lot of his life on the wrong side of the law, a threat to law abiding citizens, Scumbag fits perfectly.

!

Nah. Patrick wasn't scum. He had his problems like the rest of us but he wasn't scum. A decent enough bloke.

rednik

I'd love to know where Holland was done for the Guerin murder. He was never charged in relation to this murder but he did get done for drugs offences. The media accused him of being the trigger man but this was never proved. Anyway he is no loss as to the life he led.

Gary ITR

! wrote: »

Nah. Patrick wasn't scum. He had his problems like the rest of us but he wasn't scum. A decent enough bloke.

you're getting funnier as the thread goes on. Is your cave damp at all?

Gary ITR

rednik wrote: »

I'd love to know where Holland was done for the Guerin murder. He was never charged in relation to this murder but he did get done for drugs offences. The media accused him of being the trigger man but this was never proved. Anyway he is no loss as to the life he led.

Nobody said he was done for it

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Onkle wrote: »

you're getting funnier as the thread goes on. Is your cave damp at all?

And what exactly do you mean by that, Terry?

galwayrush

! wrote: »

Nah. Patrick wasn't scum. He had his problems like the rest of us but he wasn't scum. A decent enough bloke.

Yep, decent indeed,:rolleyes: i believe he was in jail in the UK for attempting to kidnap a businessman, kidnapping is a weird and most unusual trait in the definition of decency indeed.:(

Kiera

! wrote: »

Nah. Patrick wasn't scum. He had his problems like the rest of us but he wasn't scum. A decent enough bloke.

Ah i get it. He was misunderstood. Poor pet! :rolleyes:

Local-womanizer

! wrote: »

And what exactly do you mean by that,Terry?

What the hell has Terry got to do with this?!

Kiera

Local-womanizer wrote: »

What the hell has Terry got to do with this?!

Everytime i see a post by you i sing Britney Spears

Local-womanizer

Kiera wrote: »

Everytime i see a post by you i sing Britney Spears

I am sorry for that:(



:pac:

Kiera

Local-womanizer wrote: »

I am sorry for that:(



:pac:

Well if that hasnt put you on my "list" nothing will :P

rednik

Sory Onkle I picked you up wrong.

Local-womanizer

Kiera wrote: »

Well if that hasnt put you on my "list" nothing will :P

My 2 year objective has been achieved!!:P

Gary ITR

rednik wrote: »

Sory Onkle I picked you up wrong.

Don't be sorry, be careful




:pac:

Kiera

Onkle wrote: »

Don't be sorry, be careful




:pac:

Ah man, soooo old! Thats like saying "if i wanna hear from an asshole, i'd fart"

rednik

Should I live in fear.:eek:

Kiera

rednik wrote: »

Should I live in fear.:eek:

Of assholes? you might want to live in fear of miine :P

rednik

Is it really from the chocolate factory. :P:P

markok84

! wrote: »

But should he have been convicted any more than Jonathon Gilligan?

I doubt it. Not much evidence. What about Fatpuss Bradley?

! wrote: »

Obviously not yourself! Don't say that too loud. I'm sure plenty of people love the man.

! wrote: »

Let's not start calling people names, shall we.

! wrote: »

Nah. Patrick wasn't scum. He had his problems like the rest of us but he wasn't scum. A decent enough bloke.

Were you on first name terms with the man?

I didn't know they had Wifi in portlaoise :rolleyes: