rapidshare in German Court

kaimera

http://torrentfreak.com/rapidshare-fined-34-million-and-ordered-to-filter-content-090624/

The Regional Court in Hamburg, Germany, has ruled that file-hosting service Rapidshare must proactively filter certain content. Music industry outfit GEMA asked the court to ban Rapidshare from making 5,000 tracks from its catalogue available on the Internet. The court obliged and fined Rapidshare $34 million.

inode

i hope this doesn't affect rapidshare's service :eek:

MunsterCycling

rapidshare.de

CutzEr

MunsterCycling wrote: »

rapidshare.de

And that matters why?

This whole thing is a joke, a big company get's fined every 2 weeks or so, and that just proves how ineffective it is.

This will never go away. Hooray!

MunsterCycling

It matters because they are not the same company!!!

onemorechance

MunsterCycling wrote: »

It matters because they are not the same company!!!

How do you know it's the .de site and not the .com site?

EDIT:

Court rules against German file-sharing site
Finds Rapidshare.com violates copyright law

By Scott Roxborough

June 23, 2009, 01:41 PM ET
COLOGNE, Germany -- A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about €24 million ($34 million).

In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers.

The ruling was a major victory for German collection agency GEMA, which had brought the suit against Rapidshare for allowing some 5,000 protected music titles to be posted on their site.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/technology/news/e3i235a6a3dbc3c186611eafd877858b3a1

yoyo

onemorechance wrote: »

How do you know it's the .de site and not the .com site?

EDIT:

Court rules against German file-sharing site
Finds Rapidshare.com violates copyright law

By Scott Roxborough

June 23, 2009, 01:41 PM ET
COLOGNE, Germany -- A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about €24 million ($34 million).

In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers.

The ruling was a major victory for German collection agency GEMA, which had brought the suit against Rapidshare for allowing some 5,000 protected music titles to be posted on their site.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/technology/news/e3i235a6a3dbc3c186611eafd877858b3a1

Old news, I posted the PROOF both are different companies

Nick

watty

In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers.

Rapid share is a party that can't go on.

yoyo

watty wrote: »

Rapid share is a party that can't go on.

Rapidshare remove copyrighted content once reported to them by the owner so they are working fully within the law, anyways as I pointed out above Rapidtec (German Rapidshare) are the ones in trouble, Rapidshare AG (Swiss ones) are the main popular rapidshare company, who are not involved in this case.
Should newsgroups be banned?, or even torrents, no, as they as with file hosts have legal uses, Rapidshare have and always had a policy of removing illegal content once brought to their attention, there is plenty of legal content on rapidshare, even if its mostly used to circulate copyright material, same goes for torrents also..

Nick

onemorechance

yoyo wrote: »

Old news, I posted the PROOF both are different companies

Nick

I did not say they were the same company. I was wondering why MunsterCycling knew it was RapidShare.de was the company being referred to in the original post as the article it linked to did not say which one it was. I then did a search and the article I linked to said it was RapidShare.com. And your proof adds to this since the first article also quotes:

Bobby Chang, COO of RapidShare, Switzerland

MunsterCycling

German courts can rule all they want, rapidshare.com operates out of Switzerland and unless I'm mistaken that's a seperate country!

MC

onemorechance

MunsterCycling wrote: »

German courts can rule all they want, rapidshare.com operates out of Switzerland and unless I'm mistaken that's a seperate country!

MC

So this is why you think its RapidShare.de?

Cabaal

watty wrote: »

Rapid share is a party that can't go on.

Have to agree with this, Rapidshare will die a death in time

You can't continue to be lax and host copyright content, everyone knows if you take copyright material off of rapidshare then you affectively remove the vast majority of its content

j2dab

Cabaal wrote: »

Have to agree with this, Rapidshare will die a death in time

A very sad day...

enfant terrible

watty wrote: »

Rapid share is a party that can't go on.

But won't the other ones just pick up the slack megaupload, megashares.

byte

http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-rapidshare-to-proactively-filter-content-090624/

Story has been updated, as they were not fined $34m

Hank Scorpio

aye, no harm done (for now)

Cabaal

j2dab wrote: »

A very sad day...

No sadder then when Napster died, sure everyone liked it but at the end of the day you can't profit from copyright violation and expect that nobody will go after you in a court of law

(money made from ad impressions, impressions are caused by people using the service and alot of users use it for copyright martial as such a percentage is down to copyright violations)

enfant terrible wrote: »

But won't the other ones just pick up the slack megaupload, megashares.

Again rinse and repeat with any other companys that decide to take up the slack

z0oT

I too agree that Rapidshare can't continue to operate as it does, because as has been said remove the copyrighted material and that's basically it left totally empty.
Yes it would be sad to see Rapidshare go, I myself have downloaded several terabytes off it over the last 3 or so years. But like any other service something else will rise in it's place, megashares.com seems to be the one that most migrated to upon the change of the 50GB per 5 day period earlier this year. It might take a while but it'll happen. :rolleyes:

yoyo

z0oT wrote: »

I too agree that Rapidshare can't continue to operate as it does, because as has been said remove the copyrighted material and that's basically it left totally empty.
Yes it would be sad to see Rapidshare go, I myself have downloaded several terabytes off it over the last 3 or so years. But like any other service something else will rise in it's place, megashares.com seems to be the one that most migrated to upon the change of the 50GB per 5 day period earlier this year. It might take a while but it'll happen. :rolleyes:

If any file host would go I'd say megashares would be more likely as it appears to be a US based organisation, Afaik though once file hosts remove reported content, they are complying to the DMCA act and therefore are acting legally in the states and I'm sure across the board also

Nick

jor el

Thread title modified, since they weren't actually fined at all.

I've always thought Rapidshare were always been very quick to remove reported content, so it's hard to see why they could be in court. I guess it's like the Youtube cases, the content owners want them to pro-actively remove content, which flies in the face of what these sites were set up to do in the first place. It would be impossible for them to monitor every single upload, so they rely on receiving reports, and then remove such content, if necessary.

crisco10

Slightly OT, but has anybody heard of individuals getting in trouble for d/ling copyrighted files off of Rapidshare?
Still slightly paranoid about a site that has your personal details (if you pay) and also knowing you d/l copyrighted material...

jor el

crisco10 wrote: »

Still slightly paranoid about a site that has your personal details (if you pay) and also knowing you d/l copyrighted material...

Don't do it then. Even without personal details, they'll have your IP logged, and you can be traced through that.

yoyo

crisco10 wrote: »

Slightly OT, but has anybody heard of individuals getting in trouble for d/ling copyrighted files off of Rapidshare?
Still slightly paranoid about a site that has your personal details (if you pay) and also knowing you d/l copyrighted material...

None. Not even any cases against uploaders either i dont think, Rapidshare.de got in trouble earlier this year (different company) due to a leaked metalica album or something, not heard of any trouble people using the .com one yet

Nick

budhabob

Alright lads, slightly off topic (but rapidshare related), but anyone know when forumw will be back online, or can you recommend another similar good forum. Apologies if this is in the worng place.