stepping it up a gear

jtsuited

splitrmx wrote: »

While I would agree with the exclusion of clocking discussion I would 100% disagree with the above statement. Aphex Twin's records wouldn't sound the same if he did them only using software. There's a reason many of the world's best productions use certain hardware, it's because they want to get a certain sound. Software can currently emulate a lot of and get close to perfect in some areas but not close in others.

ah hold on, Aphex's records were made in days where software was simply not an option. You could definitely come close to his sound these days in software.

I would agree with what you are saying if we were talking 3-4 years ago, but things have come on in leaps and bounds since then.

woodsdenis

jtsuited wrote: »

really? I have a very very low end setup compared to what I grew up on. Just some 8030's, hs50's, a duet, and everything else is ITB.

As I said in my post its subjective . Your setup to some people is hi end and to others not. I totally agree about gear not being the important factor in making music at all, but I think it is ok to be aware of the options that are out there. Is clocking important ? at some point it is. Is it relevant to this forum, probably not.

Is a Virus TI the best synth out there or is Sylenth just as good. Now thats worth discussing isn't it. By the way Neuro it wont run on my PPC G5:(
Bummer.

Either way its your forum to admin how you like.

JT its good to see you havn't lost your enthusiasm and forthright debating style

Neurojazz

I actually have a world record for ****est gear, most money made

Neurojazz

woodsdenis wrote: »

As I said in my post its subjective . Your setup to some people is hi end and to others not. I totally agree about gear not being the important factor in making music at all, but I think it is ok to be aware of the options that are out there. Is clocking important ? at some point it is. Is it relevant to this forum, probably not.

Is a Virus TI the best synth out there or is Sylenth just as good. Now thats worth discussing isn't it. By the way Neuro it wont run on my PPC G5:(
Bummer.

Either way its your forum to admin how you like.

JT its good to see you havn't lost your enthusiasm and forthright debating style

Sylenth not running? - have you checked recently? - if you have and you get some sort of issue/error report then either goto lennar and ask about it or give me a PM and i'll get it fixed (hopefully)

woodsdenis

Neurojazz wrote: »

Sylenth not running? - have you checked recently? - if you have and you get some sort of issue/error report then either goto lennar and ask about it or give me a PM and i'll get it fixed (hopefully)

MAC Intel only no PPC:mad:

Neurojazz

woodsdenis wrote: »

MAC Intel only no PPC:mad:

That's crap, have to see what the PPC equivalent is from the other Mac users here.

jtsuited

woodsdenis wrote: »

JT its good to see you havn't lost your enthusiasm and forthright debating style

haha. actually imo the Virus is much much much better than sylenth. I have sylenth and I actually think it sucks. Very very very cold sounding to me. But everytime I say something like that, some producer comes out with a whopper track with a whopper bassline that it transpires was done with whatever synth/softsynth I don't like.

Which is sort of my point. Use what works for you, and keep working on it.

woodsdenis

jtsuited wrote: »

haha. actually imo the Virus is much much much better than sylenth. I have sylenth and I actually think it sucks. Very very very cold sounding to me. But everytime I say something like that, some producer comes out with a whopper track with a whopper bassline that it transpires was done with whatever synth/softsynth I don't like.

Which is sort of my point. Use what works for you, and keep working on it.

Ha Ha its always the way isn't it. I have the Virus Indigo TDM which I am guessing is equivalent to a Virus B ? and 80% of the time it wins out over anything else I have.

woodsdenis

Neurojazz wrote: »

That's crap, have to see what the PPC equivalent is from the other Mac users here.

This is the first time I have seen Intel only for a VI. PPC is unfortunately getting to the end of its life. I wont upgrade until my computer dies though, too expensive with TDM cards etc

splitrmx

jtsuited wrote: »

ah hold on, Aphex's records were made in days where software was simply not an option. You could definitely come close to his sound these days in software.

His early ones were, his most recent ones were released two years ago.

I would agree with what you are saying if we were talking 3-4 years ago, but things have come on in leaps and bounds since then.

What leaps and bounds in software have there been since 2005/6?

PaulBrewer

splitrmx wrote: »

I wouldn't consider 1500 Euro on a pair of studio monitors "top end".

No, that's mid range.

PaulBrewer

Neurojazz wrote: »

We were trying too, i believe paul even mentioned clocking at one point in regards to quality - which is relevant if your'e at the extreme high end of things and out of context with the forum purpose.

I disagree - conversion and clocking apply at all levels.

Anyone done an A/B with an Apogee Duet and a similar priced M-Audio?

That's superior D2A and clocking working for the home guy.

Anyway this is gone way off topic.

My points were in relation to Sean's OP and his gear.

I explained what I thought may have been issues - and gave a technical explanation to illustrate a point.

No harm done, I hope and no one scared :eek:

Yea?


What harm is info?

Neurojazz

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I disagree - conversion and clocking apply at all levels.

Anyone done an A/B with an Apogee Duet and a similar priced M-Audio?

That's superior D2A and clocking working for the home guy.

Anyway this is gone way off topic.

My points were in relation to Sean's OP and his gear.

I explained what I thought may have been issues - and gave a technical explanation to illustrate a point.

No harm done, I hope and no one scared :eek:

Yea?


What harm is info?

Keep this sort of info in the MP forum please - final warning.