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I-YAN BAAAAAAAARRRR, I-YAN BAR.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Deadlifts performed quickly

    90x8x4

    Heavier, don't tell Dave.

    Suitcase walks

    45x4x40m each side

    DB stepups

    22x6x5

    Power Cleans

    60x5, 70x3, 80x3x3

    These were really ****. I need teaching on these.

    Cable lifts

    18.25 x3x5

    Facepulls

    28.75x 3x 15

    KB Swings

    20x20.

    I supersetted the stepups with the carries and also the facepulls and cable lifts.
    I am now ****ed. I think my laughable aerobic base is gone.
    **** aerobic bases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    TBDL

    80x2x5, 120x5, 140x3, 150x3, 170x3, 177.5x3, 180x3

    Dead Stop Leg Press

    250x5x6

    Pendlay Rows

    70x5,5,9

    Facepulls

    28.75x2x15, 31.25x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Bench
    20x2x10
    50x2x5
    60x5
    70x4
    82.5x5x5

    Stability Bench

    30x5
    50x8
    60x2x8

    1arm Cable rows

    26x8
    28x3x8

    Hammer Curls

    24x2x8
    22x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    TBDL

    70x2x5......170x2, 180x2 (failed 3rd rep) 182.5x1, 185x1, 187.5xf.
    180x1

    Totally screwed the loading on the warmups, Couldn't figure out what I actually did.

    Dead Stop Leg Press

    250x4x6

    Pendlay Rows

    60x8, 65x8, 67.5x8,10

    Facepulls

    31.25x3x12

    RKC Plank

    3x1:00

    BAtwings

    22kgsx5x10sec

    Awful, awful performance today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Bench

    20x2x10, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5, 80x3
    87.5x5x5

    Cept I failed the last rep due to ****ing retardness.

    1 arm cable rows

    26.75x10, 31.25x4x8

    Stability Bench

    40x10, 50x10, 60x3x10

    Assorted curls

    Adequate weights and reps to illicit a response.

    The 4 horsemen of the RAWpocalypse were in practicing on the monolift.
    Those guys are intense.
    Didn't say hi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    TBDIZZL

    70x2x5, 110x5, 130x5, 140x5, 150x3, 170x3,
    182.5x3 PR,
    185x1 187.5x1 PR


    Deadstop Leg Press

    270x4x6

    Pendlay Rows

    60x10, 65x5, 70x9,7

    Got there late.
    More or less got it done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Bench

    20x2x10, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5, 80x3, 92.5 x2x3, 2+1
    Had to reset for the last rep of the 3rd triple.

    Wobbly Bench

    40x10, 50x10, 60x4x10

    1 arm Cable Rows

    26.75x4x10
    31.75x5

    Barbell curls
    30x4x10

    Cable Tall Kneeling Chops

    18.25x3x8 each way.

    Need a better name for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Speed Deads

    85x8x4

    Split snatch

    40x2, 50x3, 60x3, 65x2 PR

    Press

    40x5, 50x5, 60x5, 65x1, 70x1, 72.5x1, 75x3xf, 73xf

    Chins

    Narrow neutral BWx5, +5x1, +10x1, +15x1 PR
    Wide Grip: BW x3x3

    Started off as dynamic effort lower, then I got distracted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    TBDL

    70x2x5, 110x5, 130x5. 150x3, 170x2, 185x3...PR
    187.5x1, 190xf

    Leg Press

    270x6,6,5,6

    Pendlay Rows

    60x5, 65x5, 67.5x5, 70x5, 72.5x6

    Facepulls

    31.25x3x12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    What's your max straight bar deadlift?
    How often do you go to failure?
    Once/twice per month?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    What's your max straight bar deadlift?
    How often do you go to failure?
    Once/twice per month?

    We'll know around the middle of next week.




    Never really. I basically go for a PR on Heavy Days sometimes poor sleep or weak eating or just a bad day I might fall apart. But I don't really go looking for it.

    I think people are too hung up on failure anyway. Like if its a Dave Castro deadlift then yeah, that's not a great Idea, but that single didn't budge, which told me the triple was probably enough strain for that particular evening. I mean is it a total muscular failure? A technical failure? A form breakdown failure? I will mark all of these as a fail in my log but one of the may never happen, one happened last week, one happens regularly enough.




    I test my straight bar DL every 6 weeks, if that's what you mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Bench

    20x2x10, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5, 80x3, 90x2, 97.5x3x2

    Wobbly Bench

    50x10, 60x4x10

    1 arm Cable Rows

    31.25x3x10, 28.75x12

    ****ing shattered tonight cos the missus was away so I just forgot to go to bed last night.
    Doubles were nice n'solid so I am fairly happy going into testing next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x5, 140x3, 150x1, 160x1, 170xf,f
    150x1, 160x1, 170x f,f

    What a **** up.
    I had hoped for 180, feels like 6 weeks down the ****ter.

    I had a look at the video of the lift and it looks like my back just rounded as I got it below the knee. I'm going back to rack pulls and (more importantly) never doing trap bar dl as a max effort lift again.

    Squat


    Worked up to 140

    which I failed cos my knees collapsed in cos I wasn't ****ing arsed anymore.
    Really I just wanted to see if I could put my hip into some sort of squattable form using bands. Preliminary reports suggest it might be ok. There is no insidious pain yet.

    But seriously, **** lifting weights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    What I meant by that is that increasing your trap bar deadlift isn't necessarily going to increase your conventional deadlift.

    I think if your max effort trap bar DL goes up, you are undoubtedly stronger, I just think it will have a greater carry over to your squat than your conventional DL.

    I didn't see the 1st 170kg fail, but I did see the 1st 160kg successful attempt & it looked tough & it was hitched.
    That 160kg represents about 1.6 or 1.65 of your BW??

    Tbh, & I don't mean this to sound insulting or anything, but I just don't think you're strong enough at the deadlift to warrant a specialist programme with partial movements like rack pulls.

    To get stronger at the deadlift, to paraphrase Andy Bolton, you need to deadlift more.

    I'd recommend you take 160 as your max DL, take 60% of it and do sets of 5 x 5, possibly maxing out on last set (while leaving 1 rep in the tank).
    Deadlift twice a week and add 2.5kg per workout for 6-8 weeks & then go for a Max effort again.

    You may heed this, you may not.
    It's just my 2 cents worth and is meant to be both constructive criticism & advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    I appreciate the advice.

    I didn't fail 160.
    The 170 never really hitched. It stopped below the knee so hitching could never have happened as there was no part of my leg beneath to support the bar.

    Also 60% of 160 would be less than 100kg
    So you are suggesting doing 5x5 with less than bodyweight or 5kg more than a weight I have done for 8x4 like it was nothing.

    I understand your point but I have no interest in 5x5 at 60% it is not progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    I appreciate the advice.

    I didn't fail 160.
    The 170 never really hitched. It stopped below the knee so hitching could never have happened as there was no part of my leg beneath to support the bar.

    Also 60% of 160 would be less than 100kg
    So you are suggesting doing 5x5 with less than bodyweight or 5kg more than a weight I have done for 8x4 like it was nothing.

    I understand your point but I have no interest in 5x5 at 60% it is not progress.

    starting at 100kg...deadlifting 5x5 twice a week...so adding 5kg a week...after 8 weeks leaves you with 140 5x5 if you can pull a good solid 140 5x5 then id call that progress...

    its not all about pulling big all of the time...its about consistent good training...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    Week 1 Day 1 would be 97.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 1 Day 2 would be 100kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 2 Day 1 would be 102.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 2 Day 2 would be 105kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 3 Day 1 would be 107.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 3 Day 2 would be 110kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 4 Day 1 would be 112.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 4 Day 2 would be 115kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 5 Day 1 would be 117.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 5 Day 2 would be 120kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 6 Day 1 would be 122.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 6 Day 2 would be 125kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 7 Day 1 would be 127.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 7 Day 2 would be 130kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    Week 8 Day 1 would be 135kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)
    Week 8 Day 2 would be 137.5kg for 5 x 5 (last set go all out leaving one in the tank)

    If you were able to hit 137.5kg for 5 x 5 after 8 week, I guarantee you would progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Jesus Liam, I have a feckin engineering degree, I can handle the mathmatics of a linear progression....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Not that it matters, but I think 5 x 5 deadlifting is a load of bollox unless you're a rank beginner which he's not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Jesus Liam, I have a feckin engineering degree, I can handle the mathmatics of a linear progression....:D


    right.
    I'll leave it there.
    Hope your new DL plan works well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Really I just wanted to see if I could put my hip into some sort of squattable form using bands. Preliminary reports suggest it might be ok. There is no insidious pain yet.

    Update: Not good today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Bench

    Got stapled by 105

    End transmission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Bench

    Got stapled by 105

    End transmission.

    You've been having a good week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    At this rate, I'm thinking of taking up crossfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 1

    Decline Bench

    20x2x5, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5, 75x5

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x2x5

    DB Chest Supported Rows

    22x5, 24x5, 28x2x5

    KB Swings

    16x30

    Farmers Walk

    50'sx2x40m

    RKC Plank

    1 min


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 2

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x2x5

    Decline Bench

    20x7, 50x5, 60x5, 70x2x5

    KB Swings

    16x30

    Chest supported DB Row

    20x5, 28x5, 26x2x5

    Cross Walks

    20kg up, 30kg Down x 40m x 2 each side.

    RKC Plank

    1min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 3

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x7, 60x5, 70x5, 80x3, 85x2

    The 5 was snappy

    DB Chest Supported Rows

    20x5, 26x2x5

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x5, 130x3, 140x2

    Lil Messy.

    KB Swings

    16x35

    FArmers Walks

    50x40m, 55x40m, 60x40m

    Handy enough.

    RKC Plank

    1min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 4

    DB Chest Supported rows

    20x5, 26x2x5

    Batwings

    26x3x10

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x2x5

    These are alright but easier. Need to nail down my set up.
    Vid showed a little bit of flexion.

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 75x2x5

    Felt good.

    Farmers Walks

    60kg handles x2x40

    RKC plank

    1min

    getting better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 5

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 75x2x5

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 125x2x5

    KB Swings

    16x45

    DB Chest Supported rows

    20x5, 28x2x5

    Farmers Walk

    60s x 2x 40m

    RKC Plank

    1min

    Bench was solid enough.
    DL's were good.
    Rows were not great really
    Farmers felt heavy.
    Plank was ghey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Can't edit day 4.

    I did 16x40 on the KB swings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 6

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5 70x2, 80x1, 85x1, 87.5x1, 90x1, 95x1, 97.5x1

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 120x3, 130x1, 140x1, 150x1, 155x1, 160x1

    DB Chest Supported Rows

    20x5, 24x2x5

    KB Swings

    16x50

    Cross Walk

    20 up 30 down, x2x40m each side

    RKC Plank

    1min

    Face pulls

    24x2x10

    Plank felt better, facepulls are a guilty pleasure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    facepulls are a guilty pleasure.

    I question your understanding of both guilt and pleasure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Cross Walk

    20 up 30 down, x2x40m each side

    Que?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    token wrote: »
    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Cross Walk

    20 up 30 down, x2x40m each side

    Que?

    It's a suitcase carry in one hand & a waiter carry in the other at the same time.

    So for example, carry a 30kg by the rught side and a 20kg bell overhead in your left hand & go for a walk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    What he said.

    Its also a pain in the tits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    Sounds like something Dan John would come up with. Carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    token wrote: »
    Sounds like something Dan John would come up with. Carry on.

    Yeah, great minds think alike.
    Me and Dan.
    Great Minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    token wrote: »
    Carry on.

    Bet that'll be the name of his next book


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 7

    Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x10

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x10

    DB Chest supported rows

    20x5 24x2x5

    Farmers walks

    30s x2 x fecking loads

    RKC Plank

    1min

    Kb swings

    16x50

    Dirty nasty facepulls

    24x2x10

    Gonna bump the swings and maybe stick some time or weight on the plank next session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 8

    Death lift

    20x2x5, 100x5, 130x2x5

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 75x2x5

    Db Chest supported rows

    22x5, 26x2x5

    Kb Swings

    20x30

    Farmers Walk

    60x40m, 65x40m

    RKC Plank

    1 min

    Face Pulls

    26x2x10

    Planks felt easier tonight, which is basically progress.
    Everything felt fairly tidy tonight actually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 9

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 75x5, 85x3, 90x2

    Piss

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x5, 140x3, 150x1,1

    Supposed to be a solid double. It wasn't.
    I am pretty sure that was me just being a feckin jessy though.

    DB CS Row.

    22x5, 26x2x5

    Solid.

    Cross Walks

    18up 30 down x2 x 40m each side.

    Horrible.

    Swings

    20x30

    RKC Plank

    1min

    Oh and Barry "Max Bench" Sheehan hit a 202.5kg Bench the other day after a few weeks off and some stretching.
    Good work fella.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    what program are you doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    what program are you doing?

    Dan Johns 40 day.
    But with the addendum to the rep scheme from his "even easier strength" blog post.

    Obviously not for the rows, cos I don't think that would be as good as solid sets of 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 10.

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 65x5, 80x2x5

    Death Lift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x2x5

    DB Chest supported rows

    20x5, 26x2x5

    KB Swings

    20x30

    RKC Plank

    1min

    Had to leave it there.
    No Carry. :(
    Definitely try to up the plank duration tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 11

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x2x5

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 65x5, 80x2x5

    DB CS Rows

    20x5, 26x2x5

    Swings

    20x35

    Farmers Walk

    60sx40m, 65s x 40m

    RKC Plank

    1:15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 12

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 65x5, 80x5, 90x3, 95x2

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x5, 140x3, 145x2

    DB CS Rows

    22x5, 28x2x5

    Cross Walks

    18 up 30 Down x2 x40m

    Face Pulls

    24x2x10

    KB Swings

    20x35

    No plank.
    **** Plank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 13

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x2x5

    Like, I have sort of being bouncing a bit.
    So I tried to let it stop every rep and its horrible.

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 80x2x5

    DB CS Rows

    22x5, 28x2x5

    Farmers Walks

    70s x2 x40m

    RKC Plank

    1:15min

    Facepulls

    24x2x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 14

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x5, 135x5

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 80x2x5

    Deadlift was grand, Bench was slow but solid.

    Farmers

    50kgs x 2 x80m

    DB CS Rows

    22x5, 28x2x5

    Swings

    20x40

    RKC Plank

    1:15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 15

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 130x2, 140x1, 145x1, 150x1, 160x1, 162.5x1

    Bit maxy

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 82.5x1, 85x1, 90x1, 95x1, 100x1, 105xf

    Shouldn't have failed that one, Took the bar out wrong and drove it to my shoulders and up under the hooks.

    DBCSR

    20x5, 28x2x5

    Crosswalk

    16up 30down x40
    20up 30 down x40

    Swings

    20x40

    RKC Plank

    1:15


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Day 16

    Deadlift

    60x2x5, 100x5, 135x2x5

    Decline Bench

    20x10, 50x5, 60x5, 80x2x5

    Not particularly strong today

    DBCSR

    22x5, 28x5, 30x5

    Farmers Walks

    140kg x 2 x40m

    I'm just gonna put total load on these. Looks **** the otherway.

    Swings

    20x30,5,10

    Felt cardioy

    RKC Plank

    1:15


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