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Repeat exams

  • 28-06-2009 6:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 8


    Hey, anyone know what the story is with repeat exams? Do you have to register to repeat or something and when are they in august?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭yy885


    got this reply this morning



    Dear Student

    Repeat exams will take place during the last two weeks of August. An email will be sent to your CIT email address in the coming week regarding entry for repeat exams. You should reply to that email to confirm your intention to repeat. You will then be enrolled for the repeat and the schedule for the exams will be made available online.

    Further information regarding repeat exams for your course can be had from your department.



    Yours sincerely,


    Administration Office
    Cork Institute of Technology


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 leeds87


    just wondering. i got 30% in an exam in semester1. on that transcript it said exemption granted. in my final year transcript. it said academic standing exemption granted and then today i got an email from exams office saying i have to reply to do my autumn exams. i had prosumed since jan that i had been compensated for the exam. p.s i missed a 10% continous assessment exam for the failed exam due to sickness and never got to do it again. a reply asap would be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    leeds87 wrote: »
    just wondering. i got 30% in an exam in semester1. on that transcript it said exemption granted. in my final year transcript. it said academic standing exemption granted and then today i got an email from exams office saying i have to reply to do my autumn exams. i had prosumed since jan that i had been compensated for the exam. p.s i missed a 10% continous assessment exam for the failed exam due to sickness and never got to do it again. a reply asap would be appreciated.
    I would be bringing this up with your head of department asap to be honest instead of relying on us here :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭evil-monkey


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    I would be bringing this up with your head of department asap to be honest instead of relying on us here :)

    Very sound advice there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Anyone know if your repeat exam is marked out of a 100% or 70%?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 bisto89


    Good question, a few people told me its 100%, if you weren't giving the option to redo the assessment i'm assuming it should be 100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I was thinking then tho would it be fair that our repeat exam is marked out of 100 when everyone elses was marked out of 70%.
    Can anyone who has done repeat please verify this for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 BonBon101


    what happens if i fail one of my repeat exams do i have to repeat the year and pay over 2 grand or can i take the fail on with me to the next year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    BonBon101 im pretty sure that you are allowed take the fail on with you into the next year. Dont know when you have to repeat tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭yy885


    rob316 wrote: »
    BonBon101 im pretty sure that you are allowed take the fail on with you into the next year. Dont know when you have to repeat tho.
    repeat exam starting today...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭evil-monkey


    Jesus Christ lads does anyone here know how college works like??

    Repeat exams are marked out of 100%, but the result is capped at 40%.

    You need to get 40% out of 100% in the exam to pass. But if you get say, for example, 73%, it's only counted as 40% towards your overall average.

    I'm sick of all these threads about repeat exams and the regulations surrounding them. If the people discussing repeat exams and ways around them spent as much of their time studying there wouldn't be any need for repeat exams. Pass first time around, that's the best way to handle repeat exams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭dan1988iel



    Repeat exams are marked out of 100%, but the result is capped at 40%.

    But if you get say, for example, 73%, it's only counted as 40% towards your overall average.

    ahhh...is this true?? where does it say this??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    I think it is. Your result is 40 * mark/100 so essentially, 40% is the max you can get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 carrig2007


    Thats hardly fair though is it, if 40 is all you can get then surely a lot of people will still struggle to pass overall....???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    carrig2007 wrote: »
    Thats hardly fair though is it, if 40 is all you can get then surely a lot of people will still struggle to pass overall....???
    Well you don't get the same credits as far as I know. It's only fair really isn't it. All that extra study time in summer must have a penalty :pac:

    I mean, if I were to do summer and get 60%, that would be my mark and then one of my friends comes along and fails and has so much more time to study until Autumn then and end up beating me due to that! - that's hardly fair now is it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 carrig2007


    Well lets just say if someone failed very badly in their continuous assessment worth 30% overall, and lets say they only came out with maybe 8% going in to the summer exams and fail. That person cant actually pass at all if all they can get is 40/100 in the repeats....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Well in that case they are not fit to be doing the course, getting 26% in CA and they should repeat the whole year. It used to be the case that you had to pass CA > 35 but summer plus CA had to be greater than 40. If you failed CA before, you had to repeat the year or at least repeat any CA stuff that could be repeated (assignments for eg). I not sure what's the story with semesterisation now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭dan1988iel


    carrig2007 wrote: »
    Well lets just say if someone failed very badly in their continuous assessment worth 30% overall, and lets say they only came out with maybe 8% going in to the summer exams and fail. That person cant actually pass at all if all they can get is 40/100 in the repeats....

    no id say once you get enough to give u the 40, between both continuous assessment and final exam u'll get through,
    but if u get more, like 50% overall they will just bring it down to 40.

    everything is taken together like...

    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭dan1988iel


    clarified this matter with C.I.T. today!!!!

    this is what I was told....

    "when you repeat an exam in the autumn, you start at zero, ie. the continuous assessment isn't taken into account"


    so i'm presuming when u repeat the exam and if you higher than 40, the result is capped at 40, only fair i suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 carrig2007


    Sounds fair alright, thanks for the clarification:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭evil-monkey


    carrig2007 wrote: »
    Thats hardly fair though is it, if 40 is all you can get then surely a lot of people will still struggle to pass overall....???

    It's perfectly fair. Anyone repeating their exams shouldn't be treated on the same level with someone who passed first time around. A repeat exam is a repeat.
    dan1988iel wrote: »
    clarified this matter with C.I.T. today!!!!

    this is what I was told....

    "when you repeat an exam in the autumn, you start at zero, ie. the continuous assessment isn't taken into account"


    so i'm presuming when u repeat the exam and if you higher than 40, the result is capped at 40, only fair i suppose.

    Yes. Exactly what I said 10 posts ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 BonBon101


    i have been sick for the past 2 weeks with the flu and i have a doctors note for all last week!i sat my repeats but they were severly affected from me been sick!Would it do any harm to give in the sick note?i have heard if you are sick they grade your exam on how you did during the year?I no i have failed one of my repeats im hoping this hasnt cased me to fail another


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭overmantle


    Hope it goes well for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 BonBon101


    i really do hope so really dont want to have to repeat the year over this.Stil waiting for a reply from the head of my department


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    One of the grounds for an appeal is "Extenuating circumstances which were not known at the time of the assessment," so I'd say you have grounds for your sickness being taken into account. You should have spoken to your department head about it before hand, really, but I'd contact them anyway and explain what happened.


    http://exams.cit.ie/appeals.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭Johnnyjump


    Makes you really want to study hard to avoid failing in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Johnnyjump wrote: »
    Makes you really want to study hard to avoid failing in the first place.

    Exactly right. I'm going into 4th year this year and haven't failed one yet, and I put that down to hard work.

    Granted those "extenuating circumstances" can ruin an exam for you, but if you really put in the effort and work then you shouldn't have to repeat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭dungeon


    Hope repeats went well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭dungeon


    How soon are results out? Suppose it depends on course you're doing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Dankoozy


    Webmonkey wrote: »
    Well you don't get the same credits as far as I know. It's only fair really isn't it. All that extra study time in summer must have a penalty :pac:

    I mean, if I were to do summer and get 60%, that would be my mark and then one of my friends comes along and fails and has so much more time to study until Autumn then and end up beating me due to that! - that's hardly fair now is it :)

    sure if you want extra study time just write 'atari jaguar' on your answer sheet and hand it in the first time and you can do the exam twice as well. at the end of the day the lad who spent the whole summer studying and got better results probably knows more than you now and his results should show that

    its probably not a bad idea if you think you don't have enough time to study for all your subjects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭captainspeckle


    Dankoozy wrote: »
    sure if you want extra study time just write 'atari jaguar' on your answer sheet and hand it in the first time and you can do the exam twice as well. at the end of the day the lad who spent the whole summer studying and got better results probably knows more than you now and his results should show that

    its probably not a bad idea if you think you don't have enough time to study for all your subjects

    well if the person had the mentality to purposely fail his exams the first time round he is clearly a simpleton!

    my god.........:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Dankoozy


    well if the person had the mentality to purposely fail his exams the first time round he is clearly a simpleton!

    my god.........:eek:

    Not if he gets 100 the second time. Unless its anything to do with 'arts' then he is still a simpleton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Dankoozy wrote: »
    Not if he gets 100 the second time. Unless its anything to do with 'arts' then he is still a simpleton

    You won't get 100% the second time. Sure you might ace the exam but at the end of it all, the result will be a pass.

    If you have to repeat an exam when you're in your degree year the best you can hope for is a Pass grade on your degree while those that studied and passed all their exams can achieve Merit 2, Merit 1 and Distinction grades which will always look far more attractive to employers.

    If you set out to repeat then you take a penalty later on, simple as that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 bbbbb1


    Please let me know :

    I failed one module in the end of year (3 year ) between 11 modules ,and I sat down to the repeat C.A and the repeat Exam already.( my first exam i have got just 34 marks)
    i know that for me pass i must achieve 40 marks in each paper. but suppose that i fail the exam again and pass in the C.A with 55 marks..i know i will be limited with 40 x 40 % marks = 16 % + 34 marks from the exam first attempt =20.4% = total 36.4 OVERALL

    Do you think that i can pass even receive 36.4 overall ???
    because the limit minimum >35 to 39 < to pass by compensate, and i will still there between with 36.4 .... but i`m not in the first seat

    Do you think that is possible ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭mrmeindl


    bbbbb1 wrote: »
    Please let me know :

    I failed one module in the end of year (3 year ) between 11 modules ,and I sat down to the repeat C.A and the repeat Exam already.( my first exam i have got just 34 marks)
    i know that for me pass i must achieve 40 marks in each paper. but suppose that i fail the exam again and pass in the C.A with 55 marks..i know i will be limited with 40 x 40 % marks = 16 % + 34 marks from the exam first attempt =20.4% = total 36.4 OVERALL

    Do you think that i can pass even receive 36.4 overall ???
    because the limit minimum >35 to 39 < to pass by compensate, and i will still there between with 36.4 .... but i`m not in the first seat

    Do you think that is possible ?

    Talk to your lecturer & course coordinator, I'm struggling to make sense of what you've written.

    It depends on the module, if you've got over 40 overall (between the exam and continuous assessment) you'll have passed. If you're required to pass both components then you could be in trouble. The grade is capped at 40 after it's corrected so if you got 50 overall you still get 40.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 bbbbb1


    Please can you clarify this ( if you've got over 40 overall (between the exam and continuous assessment) you'll have passed )

    On my 1 Year in ( IS Management 1 ) NOTE that i should repeat the Assgnment again C.A ( first sitting 38 marks only,but i decide try only the exam )

    my ( repeat exam marks 48 ) 48 x 60 % = 28.8 overall + 15.2% of 38 marks = 44 % overall, but limited to 40 % by the rules .... limited to 40 marks even if the student got 90 marks in the repeat paper. 40 x 60 % = 24 % overall + 38 x 40 % = 15.2 % + 24 % = 39.2% Overall

    ( until i know there is not compensate for 2 sitting ) So what did I pass in this case ? repeat exam marks 48 ? that completed my overall scores ,

    this that you mean ? ( if you've got over 40 overall (between the exam and continuous assessment) you'll have passed .

    Please let know because i wait my result come out in few days from repeat exams of 1 subject !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 9052


    Can you compensate and carry a fail from the same year... one subject 35 % and one 30% ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 bbbbb1


    Yes u can be compesate if your Overall are between <35 to 39% > only , but if you fail until 2 modules you can carry them to next year !!


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