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Rally For Life (04-07-2009)
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PrivateEye wrote: »Exactly. Its not relevant. I'm not gay for what its worth, but when you're dealing with the religious right I suppose you're either gay or working for the E.U if you think they're wrong
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mocking fashion
getityet?
Google Justin Barrett.
If you don't want Youth Defence (who were all over todays march) not to be labelled as fascists, don't hang around with fascists. Pretty simple really.
The movement? Why don't you set up a movement for real sexual education in schools, or a movement that wants to prevent all further cuts to social welfare/child benefits so women dont feel the need to have abortions in the first place?
The general vibe of that crowd was
"Here you, dont have sex.
and if you have sex, dont use a condom.
and if you dont use a condom, you'll get pregnant.
and if you get pregant, dont have an abortion.
because eh....jesus mary and joseph."
The majority of the crowd were carrying religious symbols with them, it was bizarre to watch. Actually in light of the recent solidarity demo for the victims of clerical sex abuse (you know, like eh...living kids) it was ac tually depressing.
On a sunny day the dark ages look even blacker.
So you accept Nazi salutes were directed at us as we walked by... Thank you for your honesty. However you then lie about the majority of people carrying religous signs. Its pathetic to see anyone having to resort to telling untruths to try and slant peoples' opinions of an event...
I'm not religous in any way. I'm an anthiest Pro-Lifer. Neither am I a Facist. Of course there were members of YD there. I'd be very surprised if they weren't as they've been to the forefront of the Irish pro-life movement for years now. However they're a relatively small grouping member wise and given the thousands of participants they'd have been a small minority of the total.
But they're just as entitled as I to march for the Unborn...
The Social welfare Bill is enormous and has to be slashed. I say this as a proud CPSU member. To get €204 stay in bed money is grotesque when across the border its nearly a quarter of that...0 -
The demo was CALLED by the very groups you're saying you disagree with. To give an example, if I oppose something like the gas situation in Mayo, and Sinn Féin call a picket outside Corrib House, I wouldn't go. Why? It's a Sinn Féin picket.
By going to a demo stewarded by/led by Youth Defence, you can't say "Well I'm not a right wing character and they can do what they want"
It doesn't matter if they're 10 out of 4,000, if these groups call such demos sane secular people shouldn't attend.you accept Nazi salutes were directed at us as we walked by... Thank you for your honesty.
I didn't see them. If they were, like I said, it was obviously a pun on the 'Justin Barrett and his fascist mates' situation. Youth Defences links to the far-right speak for themselves. I don't think they were solidarity salutes
As for the number of people carrying religious signs/rosaries/pictures of Mary (!!) it was actually huge. Why was it so?
Well, if you have an OFFICIAL MASS at One P.M before a Two P.M demo, you are kind of stating what angle you're coming at it from 0 -
PrivateEye wrote: »The demo was CALLED by the very groups you're saying you disagree with. To give an example, if I oppose something like the gas situation in Mayo, and Sinn Féin call a picket outside Corrib House, I wouldn't go. Why? It's a Sinn Féin picket.
By going to a demo stewarded by/led by Youth Defence, you can't say "Well I'm not a right wing character and they can do what they want"
It doesn't matter if they're 10 out of 4,000, if these groups call such demos sane secular people shouldn't attend.
I didn't see them. If they were, like I said, it was obviously a pun on the 'Justin Barrett and his fascist mates' situation. Youth Defences links to the far-right speak for themselves. I don't think they were solidarity salutes
As for the number of people carrying religious signs/rosaries/pictures of Mary (!!) it was actually huge. Why was it so?
Well, if you have an OFFICIAL MASS at One P.M before a Two P.M demo, you are kind of stating what angle you're coming at it from
And here, in your first sentence, we see who the real facist and intolerable person is around here as you tell me I shouldn't attend.. The illerbality of 'Liberals' knows no end...:D
I also never said I opposed the Catholic Church or YD. If they support the right of the unborn then they're welcome to stand side by side with me...
Your final slur on people attending a Mass merely serves to compound your bigotted views for everyone to see...0 -
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There were about 30 angry pro-abortionists standing at the side of the road along the route shouting abuse at us.
the SWP/Feminist movement
Yeah, some of the placards said SWP, we get it. There were people there from various political parties (Labour, Sinn Féin, Socialist Party...), political movements (Workers Solidarity, Choice Ireland...) and loads of invididuals. It wasn't a Trotskyite conspiracy.
A much more diverse 'movement' than the people marching by us actually.As for youth defence, they are scum. a number of their members came p from Cork to picket the family planning clinic on Mallow Street in Limerick a few years back,
Yep. They famously attacked people outside the Dail with Hurley sticks and snooker cues once. Nothing says 'Pro Life' like beating the hell out of people and possibly ending theirs. Their links to the far-right speak for themselves, politically nobody takes them seriously which explains todays rally. That was a 'national' demo called by Youth Defence. Not exactly your "100,000+ Against The Pension Levy!"fest of February.
An absolute gem of an article from the Irish Times below....Mr Justin Barrett, the chief spokesman of the No to Nice campaign and a leading figure in the Youth Defence anti-abortion group, has close contacts with an extreme right-wing party in Germany which the authorities there believe has "Nazi characteristics".
Mr Barrett has attended conferences and spoken at an event organised by Germany's National Democratic Party (NPD). Two years ago he attended an NPD rally in the Bavarian city of Passau as a representative of Youth Defence. His name appears as one of the "honorary guests" at the event in Die Deutsche Stimme (The German Voice), the NPD party newspaper. The NPD described the rally, the largest by the party to date, as a day of national resistanceIf they support the right of the unborn then they're welcome to stand side by side with me...
Thats all it takes to stand beside you? Some similar policies? Well never mind attacking people with hurls, if they're all about the babies its grand!Your final slur on people attending a Mass merely serves to compound your bigotted views for everyone to see...
Oh lets have a national rally against abortion thats for everyone not just catholics and why don't we advertise the official mass we're having before it on the leaflets too. I'm the biggoted one. I reckon people using a religious agenda to stand in the way of a womans right to choice are a bit more bigotted to be honest....0 -
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