Square tallaght introducing pay parking ??

WarrenB

Looks like the Square in Tallaght are going to introduce pay parking. Drove through last night and the ticket machines are there in wooden boxes at all entrances to car parking.

Tabnabs

Fcuk that!! Their revenue is down so they screw over the consumer???

Paid parking, in Tallaght, really...?

voxpop

I thought they couldnt introduce paid parking as a restriction on building the shopping center was that local businesses could park there free of charge.


Tbh they have been trying to do this for about 6-7 years

vectra

Some shopping centers have those meters and gates which give you a ticket on the way in. You get around 2 hours free parking and pay for the excess.
They probably are going to use a similar system

spockety

If it's free for 2 hours, or they introduce a validation system (i.e. any of the shops can validate your parking if you make a purchase), then it's probably fair enough. I'd say that car park is abused a lot by people getting the Luas etc., it's usually packed.

If it's just straight up hourly payments, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Liffey Valley and Dundrum are only about 15 minutes away each, and you could easily argue they're better.

I live near the Square and use it regularly, but if straight up payment for parking comes in, it is just as handy for me to go to Dundrum down the M50.

polyfusion

vectra wrote: »

Some shopping centers have those meters and gates which give you a ticket on the way in. You get around 2 hours free parking and pay for the excess.
They probably are going to use a similar system

Sounds plausible - IIRC, there are signs up saying you should only park for 2 hours anyway. Probably in to prevent park-and-riders for the Luas. There used to be guys at the entrances in the mornings asking your business, presumably to dissuade park-and-riders - those guys (usually foreigners) will be out of a job now!

WarrenB

vectra wrote: »

Some shopping centers have those meters and gates which give you a ticket on the way in. You get around 2 hours free parking and pay for the excess.
They probably are going to use a similar system

I wouldnt be too sure about that. Greed will get the better of them and they will charge per hour.

This is what it will pay for and the rest will be pocketed to plug their funds gap
http://www.thesquare.ie/pages/transformation.html

Take a look at the before and after pic here of the "new" mall. Its hilarious
http://www.thesquare.ie/pages/transformation_mall.html

Basically what they are going to do is turn on more lights, and stick a few trendy looking people in there to walk around. Classic

irishthump

WarrenB wrote: »

Basically what they are going to do is turn on more lights, and stick a few trendy looking people in there to walk around. Classic

Oh, and don't forget polishing the floor....

Toots

irishthump wrote: »

Oh, and don't forget polishing the floor....

And those polystyrene circle things on the ceiling! :pac: I'd say they're a costly addition.

anotherlostie

I will never visit the Square again if I have to pay to park there. There's damn all in it as it is. Bus to town, or drive to Liffey Valley for me.

JohnC.

WarrenB wrote: »

Take a look at the before and after pic here of the "new" mall. Its hilarious
http://www.thesquare.ie/pages/transformation_mall.html

The after shot has Zavvi. Did nobody tell them?;)

Random

What a way to boost sales. People can't afford to go shopping as much because they don't have as much cash.

Solution? Let's charge them money to get to the shops before they even buy anything.

Yes, congrats, Ireland has done it again.

JustAddWater

This is rediculous and people only have themselves to blame.

Every day in the square I see:

Cars parked ALL the way along the double yellow lines (illegal of course) blocking up one of the 2 lanes meant to be there

Cars parked along the deicated walkway by f*cking idiots who think it's a space. People can't get by with buggies / trollies

People parking on the path outside the shops across the road from the multistory (manpower i think is there) That's highly illegal and I know because I got fined for it and won't be doing it again (lesson learned)

And to top it all off, every time I see this there's ample spaces in the multistory. It's just lazy ****es that won't go into the multstory to park. Nothing more to it

Therfore it has added to the daily cost of running / monitoring the car park keeping clowns like this from parking illegaly and therefore the cost had to be eventually passed down to the users

So a big round of applause to those of you who parked all over the place Hope you're happy now

ScouseMouse

I noticed this a few weeks ago. For the last while, they have had big neon lights trying to attract cars to park from Shamrock Rovers across the road. Do they see a cash cow?

parsi

Random wrote: »

What a way to boost sales. People can't afford to go shopping as much because they don't have as much cash.

Solution? Let's charge them money to get to the shops before they even buy anything.

Yes, congrats, Ireland has done it again.

Blackpool in Cork has had it since Day 1 but allows 3hours (or so) free parking which is plenty time.

Random

parsi wrote: »

Blackpool in Cork has had it since Day 1 but allows 3hours (or so) free parking which is plenty time.

Day 1? Fine. But introducing it to improve profits? Come off of it!

ejmaztec

Being in North Kerry, I've only visited The Square a couple of times over the years, but as in other shopping centres, like the Crescent in Limerick, all of the rents paid include service charges and all kinds of things, one of which would be a contribution towards the maintenance of car-parking facilities.

Perhaps some of the tenants have been putting the squeeze on the Tallaght management to pay reduced rents, thereby the management trying to recoup their losses by stupidly biting the hand that feeds i.e. charging the hard-pressed shopper to park his car.

If those idiots, and those other countless local-authority idiots around the country, weren't trying to get some easy money, a lot of people wouldn't be staying away from these places. They haven't got a clue, any of them.

nava

I'll say the main reason they are introducing the are introducing pay parking is to stop people parking there for the Day to take the Luas, staff from the council and maybe people from the apartments in the area, last time I was there early in the morning they had security staff asking people where they are going.

They couldn't charge much, parking in the M&S and Aldi car parks is €1 per hour (2 hours free if you buy in their shops) and €4 for a full day

The parking around Smyths Toys in Tallaght is been pay parking for years (20 min free) and they don't even validate tickets in you shop there.

Del2005

nava wrote: »

I'll say the main reason they are introducing the are introducing pay parking is to stop people parking there for the Day to take the Luas, staff from the council and maybe people from the apartments in the area, last time I was there early in the morning they had security staff asking people where they are going.

They couldn't charge much, parking in the M&S and Aldi car parks is €1 per hour (2 hours free if you buy in their shops) and €4 for a full day

The parking around Smyths Toys in Tallaght is been pay parking for years (20 min free) and they don't even validate tickets in you shop there.

I noticed around by Smyths recently they had changed the parking signs to pay all the time. Last time I was there they had big new stickers up saying 30min free.
Can't see the Square charging for the 1st 2 hours and after that they can't charge too much as you've said most places around are cheap. I'd say it's to get rid of Luas people or at least make some money off them.
But if they do start charging I won't be going back, nearly every shop they have can be found close by with free parking.

Victor

spockety wrote: »

I live near the Square and use it regularly, but if straight up payment for parking comes in, it is just as handy for me to go to Dundrum down the M50.

It might be a nicer shopping centre, but they also charge for parking.

grundie

I was speaking to one of the security guards at the square (Sq.?) and he tells me it because of the park and ride folks. They did surveys and found that at certain times something like 40% of the people who parked in the car park weren't actually using the centre.

It's the same at weekends, in many cases people who legitimately want to use the centre can't find parking.

The pricing scheme isn't yet finalised but it's probably going to be a 2hr free + pay the extra scheme.

They've had people go to the centre management office and rant about how they will have to pay to park and ride from now on as well.

Nody

grundie wrote: »

They've had people go to the centre management office and rant about how they will have to pay to park and ride from now on as well.

I'd love to take such a rant and simply serenly smile and say in my best Mr Burns voice "Excellent..."

the groutch

imo they should just have it as 3 hours max, and any longer you get clamped, that would get rid of the luas gang

Max_Damage

Pay for parking to go into a shopping centre full of skangers? No thanks.

I'll stick to either Nutgrove or Rathfarnham shopping centres.

Run_to_da_hills

spockety wrote: »

If it's just straight up hourly payments, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Liffey Valley and Dundrum are only about 15 minutes away each, and you could easily argue they're better.

Dundrum charges motorcyclists for parking with the exception of couriers doing drop offs.

bcirl03

Max_Damage wrote: »

Pay for parking to go into a shopping centre full of skangers? No thanks.

I'll stick to either Nutgrove or Rathfarnham shopping centres.

And they dont have skangers either????

Sids Not

bcirl03 wrote: »

And they dont have skangers either????

Of course they do silly...just a better class of skanger...;)

bcirl03

Sids Not wrote: »

Of course they do silly...just a better class of skanger...;)

Posh skangers - I like it

MunsterCycling

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dundrum charges motorcyclists for parking with the exception of couriers doing drop offs.

How do they do it? Are the barriers so long they block the whole entrance? Been there but just can't remember. That is ridiculous, motos should be free and have their own set aside area to keep the cages away!

Run_to_da_hills

MunsterCycling wrote: »

How do they do it? Are the barriers so long they block the whole entrance? Been there but just can't remember. That is ridiculous, motos should be free and have their own set aside area to keep the cages away!

Two years ago they guys at each barrier stopping bikes from sneaking through. I argued with the bloke and said it would be my last time and it was. Not sure with the policy now, hopefully with the recession these guys are let go. Alternitivly you can park bikes near the Luas stop and walk up.

polyfusion

grundie wrote: »

They've had people go to the centre management office and rant about how they will have to pay to park and ride from now on as well.

Frikin' freeloaders! Good enough for them, lets hope they frik off from the area and start using the Red Cow instead. I work at the IT nearby, and there were serious problems with them coming into our place as well, as if it wasn't bad enough trying to get parking space with nearly every student having their own cars as well.