Pornstars (Fun spoiling mod warning: if you post porn you get banned)

ardinn

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I don't think this is funny. I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls. I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother and the blatant disregard and disrespect for women in those films.They're people, not animals. I find people who watch it - especially a lot of it - have little or no respect for women, are delusional, selfish and SAD.

I want to say a lot stronger things than that ( as my blood is actually boiling) but I shall practice some restraint - something I think a lot of you should start learning.

Yes - Its shameful that they are forced into this industry

Without any want for it or say in it!

You can see just how much they hate it.

The dont even get paid a solid fortune!!!

oh wait!!!!

Just because you wouldnt do it doesnt mean nobody else would or its degrading - Go through the pics and see how many of them look sad, forced, pimped........

Actually never mind - i couldnt be arsed, troll!

SIMPLYTHE

ur obviously a charmer.

note: you brought up the words "degrading" and "forced," I didn't.
It must really please you to associate those words with the women you masturbating to.

Moshimoshi

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls..

Can you explain why you feel sorry for them?

Reloc8

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother

Pretty surprised neither are that hot.

28064212

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I don't think this is funny. I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls. I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother and the blatant disregard and disrespect for women in those films.They're people, not animals. I find people who watch it - especially a lot of it - have little or no respect for women, are delusional, selfish and SAD.

I want to say a lot stronger things than that ( as my blood is actually boiling) but I shall practice some restraint - something I think a lot of you should start learning.

I went to the cinema the other day. One of the actors got punched in the face. I left of course, it's ridiculous that they allow someone to be treated this way and advocate it as valid behaviour in the name of "entertainment"

gargleblaster

imagine if your daughters decided to go into porn, that's the thing to do. if guys truly have no problem with that, then at least they aren't hypocrites.

women aren't usually forced into it, but a look behind the curtain at how the women in the industry are treated will cause most to be unable to 'enjoy' porn anymore.

ScumLord

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I don't think this is funny. I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls. I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother

Cha Ching!!

SIMPLYTHE

28064212 wrote: »

I went to the cinema the other day. One of the actors got punched in the face. I left of course, it's ridiculous that they allow someone to be treated this way and advocate it as valid behaviour in the name of "entertainment"

actors don't get punched in the face, it's just made to look that way-> that's a ridiculous attempt at a point.

Chris P. Bacon

gargleblaster wrote: »

women aren't usually forced into it, but a look behind the curtain at how the women in the industry are treated will cause most to be unable to 'enjoy' porn anymore.

I will always enjoy porn,i dont care whats going on behind the curtain unless its a glory hole porno.

Have you even watched any porn?

SIMPLYTHE

Reloc8 wrote: »

Pretty surprised neither are that hot.

hilarious. no, seriously, how would you feel?? really.be honest!

28064212

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

actors don't get punched in the face, it's just made to look that way-> that's a ridiculous attempt at a point.

Pornstars don't get disregarded or disrespected, it's just made to look that way

prinz

OSI wrote: »

Let's face it, the reason you object is because your husband/boyfriend/guy-you-fancy are **** over the image of another woman and not you.

What about guys who don't like porn?

Celly Smunt

paulina james and natasha nice.

the end.

Celly Smunt

prinz wrote: »

What about guys who don't like porn?

clearly gay.

pablomakaveli

prinz wrote: »

What about guys who don't like porn?

There were a group of researchers who wanted to do a study on men who have never viewed porn. They were actually unable to find any participants because all the men they approached had viewed porn at some stage if not regularly.

pablomakaveli

pmcmahon wrote: »

clearly gay.

Gays like porn too.

Which raises another point. Why don't these anti-porn people ever complain about the male actors in gay porn being "objectified" etc?

Or is it just another case of people assuming women can't think and make decisions for themselves so they have to make them for them?

AndyGarcia

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I don't think this is funny. I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls. I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother and the blatant disregard and disrespect for women in those films.They're people, not animals. I find people who watch it - especially a lot of it - have little or no respect for women, are delusional, selfish and SAD.

I want to say a lot stronger things than that ( as my blood is actually boiling) but I shall practice some restraint - something I think a lot of you should start learning.

Lisa Sparxx is a famous porn star http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Sparxxx.
She has a masters degree and a minors in business and she decided to go into the industry. 99% of these girls choose themselves to go into the industry and they get bloody well paid for it. I work in sales and get abused and told to fvck off every second customer, people have no respect for me and they make me feel degraded. I am someone's child so why dont you help me? Oh wait it's my choice to do my job the same way it is for all of the big ass'd and big titted lovelies that i pull myself assunder to.

So if the girls felt they way you say they do why dont they just quit and get a normal job maybe in sales if they can handle it?

I am not going to pratice restraint, i am weak and i am locking myself in a room and pulling the balls of myself

prinz

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Gays like porn too.
Which raises another point. Why don't these anti-porn people ever complain about the male actors in gay porn being "objectified" etc?
Or is it just another case of people assuming women can't think and make decisions for themselves so they have to make them for them?

Ever listened to anyone like Shelley Lubben discuss their experiences in the industry?

Celly Smunt

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Gays like porn too.

Which raises another point. Why don't these anti-porn people ever complain about the male actors in gay porn being "objectified" etc?

Or is it just another case of people assuming women can't think and make decisions for themselves so they have to make them for them?

i wasn't talking about gay porn,i like fast cars,lager,football and girls.

AndyGarcia

Article on wikipedia, there not doing it for free.

Most male performers in straight porn are paid less than their female costars. Ron Jeremy has commented on the pay scale of women and men of the sex film industry: "The average guy gets $300 to $400 a scene, or $100 to $200 if he's new. A woman makes $100,000 to $250,000 at the end of the year.[9] "Girls can easily make 100K-250K per year, plus stuff on the side like strip shows and appearances. The average guy makes $40,000 a year."[10]
Some state that gay male porn generally pays men much more than heterosexual porn; a number of male performers, including Peter North, have appeared in both heterosexual and gay pornography.[11] Ostensibly, men who perform in gay pornography but identify themselves as heterosexual, most notably Wolf Hudson, are said to do gay-for-pay, that is, perform in gay movies only for the paycheck, not because of any personal attraction they have to other men.
According to producer Seymore Butts, who runs his own sex-film recruitment agency, as well as producing sex films; "depending on draw, female performers who perform in both straight and lesbian porn earn more than those who do [just heterosexual scenes] usually make about US$200–800 while those who only do oral sex (blow job) usually only make about US$100–300 for the scene".[12] It was also noted in an interview conducted by Local10 news of Florida that individuals were offered $700 for sexual intercourse while shooting a scene of the popular series Bang Bus in 2004 [13] According to Videobox, a porn website, actresses make these rates: Blowjobs: $200–$400; Straight sex: $400–$1,200; Anal sex: $900–$1,500; Double Penetration: $1,200–$1,600; Double anal: $2,000. For more unusual fetishes, women generally get 15% extra. [14]
In 2001 actress Chloe said of pay-rates; "In Gonzo, you're paid not by the picture, but by the scene. So it's girl-girl: $700, plus $100 for an anal toy. Boy-girl: $900. Anal: $1,100. Solo: $500. DP: $1,500."[5]
Additionally, besides appearing in films, porn stars often make money from endorsements and appearance fees. For instance, in 2010 some night clubs were paying female porn stars and Playboy Playmates to appear there to act as draws for the general public; Jesse Jane was reported to have been paid between $5,000 to $10,000 for one appearance by a Chicago club.

List of the highest paid porn stars http://www.listaholic.com/the-5-highest-paid-pornstars.html

prinz

pmcmahon wrote: »

i wasn't talking about gay porn,i like fast cars,lager,football and girls.

I like all those things too. I'm not into porn. I'm straight. Where in this world of black and white do I fit in?

Celly Smunt

prinz wrote: »

I'm straight Where in this world of black and white do I fit in?

asia?

mikom

prinz wrote: »

I'm straight. Where in this world of black and white do I fit in?

Interracial gang-bangs?

Jimmy the Wheel

I've been getting off on chubby porn lately.

Bunny de la Cruz has a mighty fine ass.

pablomakaveli

prinz wrote: »

Ever listened to anyone like Shelley Lubben discuss their experiences in the industry?

There'll always be a few people who'll have bad experiences. It doesn't mean everyone will.

28064212

prinz wrote: »

Ever listened to anyone like Shelley Lubben discuss their experiences in the industry?

As opposed to ex-pornstar Julie Meadow's post on Lubben? Or the likes of Nina Hartley (a registered nurse prior to getting into porn) or Lisa Sparxxx (holder of a Masters degree) who have no problem with the porn industry?

Dick Burns

delta white - english pornstar -shes incredible

ive been in a few low budget ones in england,women werent great tho but was great fun

prinz

AndyGarcia wrote: »

Article on wikipedia, there not doing it for free.

From article also on wikipedia..

According to actor-turned-director Jonathan Morgan, "The girls could be graded like A, B and C. The A is the chick on the boxcover. She has the power. So she'll show up late or not at all. 99.9% of them do that."[5] Less successful actresses are more likely to perform more extreme acts such as 'double-anal'.[5] If an actress is willing to perform more extreme acts she will receive more offers of work.[5] Older or less attractive actresses are more likely to perform such acts in order to get work.[5] According to Morgan, "Some girls are used up in nine months or a year. An 18-year-old, sweet young thing, signs with an agency, makes five films in her first week. Five directors, five actors, five times five: she gets phone calls. A hundred movies in four months. She's not a fresh face any more. Her price slips and she stops getting phone calls. Then it's, 'Okay, will you do anal? Will you do gangbangs?' Then they're used up. They can't even get a phone call. The market forces of this industry use them up."

Are these the girls making $100,000 - $250,000 a year and everybody's happy?

prinz

28064212 wrote: »

As opposed to ex-pornstar Julie Meadow's post on Lubben? Or the likes of Nina Hartley (a registered nurse prior to getting into porn) or Lisa Sparxxx (holder of a Masters degree) who have no problem with the porn industry?

I'm not sure why you keep referring tgo educational qualifications as if that has anything to do with anything. Is there a point to that? For every one porn actor or actress you know the name of there are hundreds and thousands more you don't, which you have no idea of their background, their mental state, financial state, health etc.

Celly Smunt

prinz wrote: »

From article also on wikipedia..





Are these the girls making $100,000 - $250,000 a year and everybody's happy?

she has the right to refuse otherwise it would be rape you know.

AndyGarcia

prinz wrote: »

From article also on wikipedia..





Are these the girls making $100,000 - $250,000 a year and everybody's happy?

So are you telling me that every porn star has a gun pointed to her head to make films or is it her choice to enter into porn?

SIMPLYTHE

Richie Cranium wrote: »

I will always enjoy porn,i dont care whats going on behind the curtain unless its a glory hole porno.

Have you even watched any porn?

the fact that you don't care what's going on behind it is actually a horrendous reflection on you as a person.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Blowjobs: $200–$400; Straight sex: $400–$1,200; Anal sex: $900–$1,500; Double Penetration: $1,200–$1,600; Double anal: $2,000. For more unusual fetishes, women generally get 15% extra. [14]

:eek: What the Fook? Is that what I think it is????

prinz

AndyGarcia wrote: »

So are you telling me that every porn star has a gun pointed to her head to make films or is it her choice to enter into porn?

No, I'm not. Didn't make any suggestion of that either. The very act of calling every one a "pornSTAR" is in itself an attempt to gloss over the industry and imagine everyone as happy, benefitting, reaping the gains etc. We don't call people playing soccer up the Phoenix Park on a Sunday afternoon Football "Stars".

AndyGarcia

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

:eek: What the Fook? Is that what I think it is????

Ive seen Audrey Hollander so triple anal, she's a great girl

SIMPLYTHE

28064212 wrote: »

Pornstars don't get disregarded or disrespected, it's just made to look that way

okay you obviously didn't look at the documentary about a year ago on channel four - following an english women trying to get into the industry. it was HORRENDOUS. so degrading. you could literally see her self esteem and respect disintegrate in front of your eyes. the vulchers around her were complete PIGs. it's was really upsetting. she ended up leaving it extremely traumatised.

wish i remembered the name of that doc. i think people should watch it before they think twice about watching that stuff ever again. seriously. if OP remember the name, will you post it???

28064212

prinz wrote: »

I'm not sure why you keep referring tgo educational qualifications as if that has anything to do with anything. Is there a point to that? For every one porn actor or actress you know the name of there are hundreds and thousands more you don't, which you have no idea of their background, their mental state, financial state, health etc.

That was the first post I mentioned educational qualifications, so I have no idea why you think I "keep referring" to them. The point is that these are examples of qualified women who choose to stay in porn. They have qualifications, they can do a "real" job, but they choose to do this.

You also have no idea of their background, their mental state, financial state, health etc, but you're the one saying that the industry is somehow 'wrong'.

SIMPLYTHE

28064212 wrote: »

Pornstars don't get disregarded or disrespected, it's just made to look that way

you do realise you still haven't made a point? again, I find it interesting that I didn't use the word disregard or disrespect, but, again, a porn watcher easily drops it into conversation as though it's absolutely fine! it's so strange!

(i'm presuming porn watcher - if ur not, i apologise)

Alter-Ego

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

I don't think this is funny. I feel really sorry for those porn "stars", particularly the girls. I wish even some of you would consider for a moment how you would feel if that was your sister or your mother and the blatant disregard and disrespect for women in those films.They're people, not animals. I find people who watch it - especially a lot of it - have little or no respect for women, are delusional, selfish and SAD.

I want to say a lot stronger things than that ( as my blood is actually boiling) but I shall practice some restraint - something I think a lot of you should start learning.

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

AndyGarcia

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

you actually frighten me. I'm not joking.

I would say most things frighten you and the fact i can name porn stars frightens you is a bit stupid. Im not going to be ashamed that i watch porn and pick out certain girls that i like

AndyGarcia

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

okay you obviously didn't look at the documentary about a year ago on channel four - following an english women trying to get into the industry. it was HORRENDOUS. so degrading. you could literally see her self esteem and respect disintegrate in front of your eyes. the vulchers around her were complete PIGs. it's was really upsetting. she ended up leaving it extremely traumatised.

wish i remembered the name of that doc. i think people should watch it before they think twice about watching that stuff ever again. seriously. if OP remember the name, will you post it???

Seen as you watched this HORRENDOUS programme can you let me know WHY she out of her own accord decided to get into the industry? I genuinely want to know what made her get into it?

SIMPLYTHE

OSI wrote: »

I always love the arguments against porn from feminists.

"it's so degrading!"
"The industry is horrible"
"How would you feel if you knew the person"

Let's face it, the reason you object is because your husband/boyfriend/guy-you-fancy are **** over the image of another woman and not you.

no, I've always been against it. when i'm single or with someone, so that makes no difference.

FYI i wouldn't stay with a guy if he insisted on watching porn. that evidences my strength as a woman actually (who won't put up with something if i'm not comfortable with it.) it does not reflect badly on me at all. i have standards and i live by them.

prinz

28064212 wrote: »

That was the first post I mentioned educational qualifications, so I have no idea why you think I "keep referring" to them...

Apologies it was another poster who referred to the same thing earlier.

28064212 wrote: »

The point is that these are examples of qualified women who choose to stay in porn. They have qualifications, they can do a "real" job, but they choose to do this..

...and? Lot's of people who have qualifications to do "real" jobs, choose to do all sorts of crazy shít. Does that legitimise what they end up doing? If some porn performers choose to do it or whatever fine. That has no bearing whatsoever on my opinion of porn in general. The other stuff was countering the usual nonsense that gets trotted out on every porn thread. They're all rolling in dough and delighted.....

28064212 wrote: »

You also have no idea of their background, their mental state, financial state, health etc, but you're the one saying that the industry is somehow 'wrong'.

Yeah, silly me. Imagine having issues with an industry where one of the actors turned directors acknowledges how many girls get 'used up' and spat back out in months by the industry. What a star lifestyle. Can't imagine anyone not enjoying it.

SIMPLYTHE

AndyGarcia wrote: »

Seen as you watched this HORRENDOUS programme can you let me know WHY she out of her own accord decided to get into the industry? I genuinely want to know what made her get into it?

to put it bluntly - she had one the lowest self esteems i've ever seen, was broke and thought it was a viable way to make money - and - quite frankly - was a little unstable... find it. honestly. it was extremely interesting.

28064212

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

okay you obviously didn't look at the documentary about a year ago on channel four - following an english women trying to get into the industry. it was HORRENDOUS. so degrading. you could literally see her self esteem and respect disintegrate in front of your eyes. the vulchers around her were complete PIGs. it's was really upsetting. she ended up leaving it extremely traumatised.

wish i remembered the name of that doc. i think people should watch it before they think twice about watching that stuff ever again. seriously. if OP remember the name, will you post it???

Have you seen what an actress can go through when they're trying to break into Hollywood? What about a junior doctor who works 100 hour weeks for consultants who couldn't give a crap about them?

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

you do realise you still haven't made a point? again, I find it interesting that I didn't use the word disregard or disrespect, but, again, a porn watcher easily drops it into conversation as though it's absolutely fine! it's so strange!

(i'm presuming porn watcher - if ur not, i apologise)

Actually I addressed the exact terminology you used:

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

...and the blatant disregard and disrespect for women in those films.

Maybe you're a repressed "porn watcher" and don't realise it.

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

i have standards and i live by them.

Good for you. Stop trying to impose your standards on other people

prinz

AndyGarcia wrote: »

Seen as you watched this HORRENDOUS programme can you let me know WHY she out of her own accord decided to get into the industry? I genuinely want to know what made her get into it?

Perhaps it's to do with the promises of quick riches, success and stardom, as has been evidenced on this very thread.

SIMPLYTHE

AndyGarcia wrote: »

I would say most things frighten you and the fact i can name porn stars frightens you is a bit stupid. Im not going to be ashamed that i watch porn and pick out certain girls that i like

no actually you genuinely give me the creeps. not writing to you at all anymore.

prinz

28064212 wrote: »

Good for you. Stop trying to impose your standards on other people

But if you don't watch porn you're gay/a kiddy fiddler/ etc. :pac:

AndyGarcia

prinz wrote: »

Perhaps it's to do with the promises of quick riches, success and stardom, as has been evidenced on this very thread.

That pretty much means that actors are the same?

SIMPLYTHE wrote: »

no actually you genuinely give me the creeps. not writing to you at all anymore.

Id say most people are hoping you wont write on this post anymore

SIMPLYTHE

28064212 wrote: »

Have you seen what an actress can go through when they're trying to break into Hollywood? What about a junior doctor who works 100 hour weeks for consultants who couldn't give a crap about them?


Actually I addressed the exact terminology you used:

Maybe you're a repressed "porn watcher" and don't realise it.


Good for you. Stop trying to impose your standards on other people

disregard and disrespect was used in another discussion, not this one. ( I do of course still think this)

junior doctor is the most laughable thing i've heard in AGES. i'll have to tell that to a few i know. don't think they'll be impressed.

please don't say i'm a repressed one, i couldn't be further from it. i'm extremely non repressed, but i - as i said - have standards and live by them.

i think society woudl benefit if more people voiced their concerns about these issues, so no, i will judge people by them.