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ford focus rs

  • 04-07-2009 8:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭


    Does anyone know were the cheapest price is for on a focus rs or maybe go to uk??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭sneakyST


    New RS? Get on the waiting list. As far as I know they have all been alocated this year. And if you want one that has landed in the UK already - dealers and private sellers are looking for 3-5k over list for them, thats 30k plus stg.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Does anyone know were the cheapest price is for on a focus rs or maybe go to uk??

    cheapist one on carzone - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Focus-RS/305-BHP/200924193046131/advert?channel=CARS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Haha no im thinking of 2003...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Haha no im thinking of 2003...

    then i think the UK is out of the question as the VRT will be huge at 36% iirc
    but in saying that you could get a much better example with much better history which is probably worth it on a car like that.

    the old RS is some machine too, and looks great imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Was it 2003 they started??

    What you reckon id pay here or in the uk??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,480 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    how much moolah you got to spend, OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Max 11k...Not sure il get one but who knows


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Was it 2003 they started??

    What you reckon id pay here or in the uk??

    lowest one on pistonheads is 7450 stg - Click Me

    although this looks like a well cared for example, but the price reflects that - Well Cared For Example


    OMG, i just figured out how to change the links to words......im glad i stayed up now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Looks ok but not spotless,what would the vrt be on this??


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Looks ok but not spotless,what would the vrt be on this??


    well then your budget needs to be increaded, cant get steak on a 1/4 pounder budget imo :)
    www.revenue.ie


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Wouldnt quote me..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    £4200:eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Wouldnt quote me..

    what you need to do then is ring them although its very hard to get a human on th other side of the phone, so get as much detail on the car as possible, you will have to ring the seller and tell them that your trying to get a VRT quote and ask them for the chassis number and give the guys in reveue all the details and they will come back to you with a definate quote.

    im sure you can email them too, just put all the details into the email and they will get back to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    I was looking at a 2005 ford mondeo sttdci today and it was fab but a little expensive at 19k:eek: but nice indeed:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Have you ever driven an RS? They are an amazing car, but not to everyones driving style.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Have you ever driven an RS? They are an amazing car, but not to everyones driving style.
    Yes i drove one once and taught it was brilliant.Ive had imprezas,skylines and a few others and the rs is something that ive always wanted..


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Have you ever driven an RS? They are an amazing car, but not to everyones driving style.

    I drove a couple of Mk1 RS Foci, and as a track car they were great. However the rock hard suspension and rather overactive diff took away the fun on all but the smoothest roads.

    The later ST was in many ways a better road car. Didn't have that badge though.

    The new Focus RS looks mean and fantastic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Vanbis


    kceire wrote: »

    I think that might be a bit too much BHP @ 305. The VW GTi at 200BHP is surely enough, but even that is probably a bit quick. I hope you have plenty of driving experience and not just passed your test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Crazy prices :eek:

    Mazda 3 MPS would probably leave the earlier Focus in its wake and you can get a 08 one with warranty for 14k with a small bit of haggling!!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200926194444273

    Unbelievable deal imo:D

    Its a practically brand new 155mph performance car for the same price as a diesel passat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Crazy prices :eek:

    Mazda 3 MPS would probably leave the earlier Focus in its wake and you can get a 08 one with warranty for 14k with a small bit of haggling!!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200926194444273

    Unbelievable deal imo:D

    Fuppin hell! That car would have been nearly 35K€ new surely?

    Many people would over look that when looking for a hot hatch, probably because it cant really match any of its rivals for looks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Fuppin hell! That car would have been nearly 35K€ new surely?

    Many people would over look that when looking for a hot hatch, probably because it cant really match any of its rivals for looks

    Im hoping it still around next year so I can trade my fabia for it! Its been advertised a while, people here are crazy:)


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Crazy prices :eek:

    Mazda 3 MPS would probably leave the earlier Focus in its wake and you can get a 08 one with warranty for 14k with a small bit of haggling!!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200926194444273

    Unbelievable deal imo:D

    Its a practically brand new 155mph performance car for the same price as a diesel passat!

    That is fecking Cheap :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    As someone who has had a Focus RS and a new one coming in Jan :) All I can advise you to do is:

    1. Look at a few cars and get a feel for what you want. I looked at about 12 of them the time I bought mine and most were low mileage ones,<40k, In the end I settled for one with 59k on the clock simply because it was the best one by far and owned by a real entusiast it had absolutely everything with the car reciepts for everthing even bulbs!! The car had been garaged and when I went to see the car the chap had carpet on the walls of his garage to stop the door getting marked when he opened it!! I would recommend buying from a specialist where you can view and drive 2 or 3 on the one day...

    2. Look at a few of the owners forums and do some research into the common faults that occur with these cars. They are few and far between to be honest but there is a few bits and bobs so know exactly what your looking for and how to find it..

    3. Its probably worth your while trying to find one here in this country as there is a few starting to appear for sale, Most of them being UK cars and still on UK plates, these lads are usually easy enough deal with and cars can be picked up relatively cheap.

    4. Make sure you can insure one of these properly, I had mine insured for 2 months as a ST170 and didnt realise until they sent me out the renewal apparantly they didnt have an RS on their books so had to get a quote from the underwriters then it went up considerably! Some places WILL NOT even quote you for one of these cars.

    5. If the car has not got a FULL SERVICE HISTORY and I mean one that has been backed up by reciepts which can be verified walk away. These cars need proper looking after as they are all performance parts fitted to them. They need a special grade of oil and I would recommend you only use the grade specified and insist that your garage does the same. I had my one with my local Ford dealer and they filled it with a different grade which I spotted on the invoice and refused to drive the car from the garage until it was changed ( 3 days later :( )

    6. If you do buy one make sure and get a spare rim for the car or at least get a steel wheel that you can use in the event of a puncture the stuff ford supply with the car is totally useless. If you do buy a rim make sure it fits over the front brake calipers as they are BIG..

    7. Finally, Most parts for an RS carry a special unspoken about RS tax at the dealers!!!! An example would be front brake pads Dealer price 275 euro!!! Aftermarket pads by the same manufacturer and better spec 85 euro delivered from the Uk!!! As for most other parts you will have no option to buy from dealer as there is very few spurious parts available..


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    As someone who has had a Focus RS and a new one coming in Jan :)

    any pics of your one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    That is fecking Cheap :eek::eek::eek:

    Its also registered before July so you pay the old tax rate of 895e.

    Its under warranty for another 18 months and has 184 bhp per tonne:eek:

    It lapped the Nurburgring in 8min 39sec with a driver whom had only ever driven the track that day.Thats 1 sec slower than a Porsche 996 Carrera S.Its 60-120mph power is something else :pac:



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Crazy prices :eek:

    Mazda 3 MPS would probably leave the earlier Focus in its wake and you can get a 08 one with warranty for 14k with a small bit of haggling!!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200926194444273

    Unbelievable deal imo:D

    Its a practically brand new 155mph performance car for the same price as a diesel passat!

    From racing my MPS on a track, my best lap was 3.1 seconds faster round kirkistown which is round about 1:20 lap time track for me, the mk1 RS driver would be of similar track experience as me and knows how to push it!
    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Fuppin hell! That car would have been nearly 35K€ new surely?

    Many people would over look that when looking for a hot hatch, probably because it cant really match any of its rivals for looks

    yea came on the Irish Market for 34 K in 2006

    IMO, looks are something that girls concern themselves with! :D;) performance is is for petrol heads!

    Just on a side note on the MPS - 236g Co2, highest tax bracket, the new model is just under the upper band threshold


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    That is fecking Cheap :eek::eek::eek:

    tell me about it, my mate paid 27k for an 07 demo early last year in Duffy's.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Mazda is relatively decent value ok, but by goodness it's plain as sin. A good Q car however.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭omega man


    Mazda is relatively decent value ok, but by goodness it's plain as sin. A good Q car however.

    Sadly true. I traded mine in a few months back. Fantastic performance but i just couldnt live with the looks after a year. Felt i had to point out 'its actually a 2.3L with 260bhp etc' all too often! That 08 one is for nothing, i got more than that on my 07 as a trade-in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    So would you go with the st170??

    I dont actually like mazda and have had dealings with that garage so would not go back anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    upthedub wrote: »
    So would you go with the st170??

    I dont actually like mazda and have had dealings with that garage so would not go back anyway.


    The Mazda3 MPS is very similar chasis wise (they shared development) to the RS, but has a better engine, but if your dead set on a ford badge..... I'd get the mk1 RS over the ST170


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    The Mazda3 MPS is very similar chasis wise (they shared development) to the RS, but has a better engine, but if your dead set on a ford badge..... I'd get the mk1 RS over the ST170
    Ive just no interest in a mazda tbh.But i will look at other cars with a max budget of 11k..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭cpoh1


    You're looking at a pig of an rs for 11k as kceire said. Something i would, consider as im driving one at the moment myself as a daily runner, a DC5 integra typeR. They look a bit boyracerish but are an absolute hoot to drive, comfortably the best handling fwd car ive driven or owned (including a dc2 typeR).

    11k would get you a decent example the way the market has gone and for that you get recaros, brembo brakes, k20 engine (best 4 pot n/a engine on the market) and a superb chassis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    yea came on the Irish Market for 34 K in 2006

    IMO, looks are something that girls concern themselves with! :D;) performance is is for petrol heads!

    Exactly!!

    Sleepers are what its about! I love the fact, it looks like a 1.4.

    Good lap as well, looks a tough track!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    cpoh1 wrote: »
    You're looking at a pig of an rs for 11k as kceire said. Something i would, consider as im driving one at the moment myself as a daily runner, a DC5 integra typeR. They look a bit boyracerish but are an absolute hoot to drive, comfortably the best handling fwd car ive driven or owned (including a dc2 typeR).

    11k would get you a decent example the way the market has gone and for that you get recaros, brembo brakes, k20 engine (best 4 pot n/a engine on the market) and a superb chassis.
    Na id rather a 2001 sti impreza than the dc5 by far tbh,but thanks anyway;)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Na id rather a 2001 sti impreza than the dc5 by far tbh,but thanks anyway;)

    sounds like you havent actually made up your mind man LOL
    its a good situation to be in when your looking for a car so enjoy it and test drive as much as possible.

    upthedub wrote: »
    So would you go with the st170??


    only thing is, your asking about the ST170 now, why? when you originally wanted an RS.

    that would be like going looking for a Lancer Evolution and comming home with a Lancer GSR!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    kceire wrote: »
    sounds like you havent actually made up your mind man LOL
    its a good situation to be in when your looking for a car so enjoy it and test drive as much as possible.

    only thing is, your asking about the ST170 now, why? when you originally wanted an RS.

    that would be like going looking for a Lancer Evolution and comming home with a Lancer GSR!
    Yea through,but i reckon the price of the rs is abit toooo much for me.The nearest to it is the st170 but im still keen on the 2001 sti impreza;)which i can afford


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Yea through,but i reckon the price of the rs is abit toooo much for me.The nearest to it is the st170 but im still keen on the 2001 sti impreza;)which i can afford

    yeah i suppose so, its not until you start looking properly that you realise if its financially possible or not :mad:

    2001 "Bugeye" Impreza is a good car too. insurance will be heavy though. i know people who are late 20's or early 30's with full NCB and still paying over 1000e to 2000e insurance on the STi version.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    kceire wrote: »
    yeah i suppose so, its not until you start looking properly that you realise if its financially possible or not :mad:

    2001 "Bugeye" Impreza is a good car too. insurance will be heavy though. i know people who are late 20's or early 30's with full NCB and still paying over 1000e to 2000e insurance on the STi version.
    Wow thats alot.I had a 1998 sti about three years ago and loved it:D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    upthedub wrote: »
    Wow thats alot.I had a 1998 sti about three years ago and loved it:D

    i know, have alook at this thread for some insurance pricing on various scoobies!

    http://www.isdc.ie/discussion/index.php?topic=16248.0;highlight=insurance


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    upthedub wrote: »
    Yea through,but i reckon the price of the rs is abit toooo much for me.The nearest to it is the st170 but im still keen on the 2001 sti impreza;)which i can afford

    The ST170 will be a bit of a dissapointment I think. Nothing much wrong with it, only it's just not special like an RS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    kceire wrote: »
    i know, have alook at this thread for some insurance pricing on various scoobies!

    http://www.isdc.ie/discussion/index.php?topic=16248.0;highlight=insurance

    Wow,insurance must of gone up..


  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭UhOh


    Mazda but by goodness it's plain as sin.

    have to agree with that. Although it might not be a bad thing. I have the new RS & it's getting a little too much attention for my liking, that said it's all good attention. Lets hope it stays that way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    UhOh wrote: »
    have to agree with that. Although it might not be a bad thing. I have the new RS & it's getting a little too much attention for my liking, that said it's all good attention. Lets hope it stays that way.

    What colour did you go for? any pics?


  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭UhOh


    What colour did you go for?

    white


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    UhOh wrote: »
    white

    lovely, any pics? please say you do.........:D

    upthedub - just for you : 2003 Ford Focus Rs For Sale


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Dan_B


    @pthedub I have an st170 for sale if you want to have a look.
    You may have to wait another 12-18 moths before you can get a MK1 RS or MK2 ST in your budget.

    @henry ford III, much as I like the MK1 ST, comparing it to an RS is a tad unfair. Price wise they are miles apart.
    Mate recently put 10K with a MK1 ST for a MK1 RS.
    Not sure what they where new but I'd imagine it was similar, apples and oranges.

    Pics aren't great, will try and get some better one's the weekend.

    http://www.carlist.ie/vehicles/view/139805-ford-focus-st-kildare?r=/vehicles/64,1266/*/*/*/flat/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭cpoh1


    One thing i will say about the mk1 rs, by god the interior is hideous. Those blue sparcos and the interior trim is cheap boyracer esque in appearance.

    I genuinely think the mk1 rs is overpriced for what you are getting and would be much cheaper if it wasn't for the fanbase uk people have for ford in general.

    A car like the clio williams or ven 172, 182 cup etc. would be a cheaper and better all round car than the rs. Have you thought about these OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    Dan_B wrote: »
    @pthedub I have an st170 for sale if you want to have a look.
    You may have to wait another 12-18 moths before you can get a MK1 RS or MK2 ST in your budget.

    @henry ford III, much as I like the MK1 ST, comparing it to an RS is a tad unfair. Price wise they are miles apart.
    Mate recently put 10K with a MK1 ST for a MK1 RS.
    Not sure what they where new but I'd imagine it was similar, apples and oranges.

    Pics aren't great, will try and get some better one's the weekend.

    http://www.carlist.ie/vehicles/view/139805-ford-focus-st-kildare?r=/vehicles/64,1266/*/*/*/flat/
    cpoh1 wrote: »
    One thing i will say about the mk1 rs, by god the interior is hideous. Those blue sparcos and the interior trim is cheap boyracer esque in appearance.

    I genuinely think the mk1 rs is overpriced for what you are getting and would be much cheaper if it wasn't for the fanbase uk people have for ford in general.

    A car like the clio williams or ven 172, 182 cup etc. would be a cheaper and better all round car than the rs. Have you thought about these OP?
    Cheers man,nice car.Tbh im not sure what im after now..was even looking at a mini cooper s yesterday;)

    No not really a renault person man thanks though


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    upthedub wrote: »
    Cheers man,nice car.Tbh im not sure what im after now..was even looking at a mini cooper s yesterday;)

    No not really a renault person man thanks though

    Cooper S's are excellent!

    Do I detect a slight hint of badge snobbery!!?:D

    Also, take a look at second hand, Audi S3's, Seat FR's (or Cupra's), Volvo C30's (one has a 2.5l turbocharged engine), Corsa OPC's, Fabia VRS's and dont rule out the Integra - drive one enthusiastically before you decide on it!


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