genocide of the native indians in the USA continues unabated

derry

The news sources republic of lakotah media contiues to shopw the USA government is determined to continue the genocide against the native Indian of the USA

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/genocide/

republicoflakotah.com wrote:

Genocide

Genocidal Results of the Failed American Indian
Policies of the United States Government:
MORTALITY:

* Lakotah men have a life expectancy of less than 44 years, lowest of any country in the World (excluding AIDS) including Haiti.
* Lakotah death rate is the highest in the United States.
* The Lakotah infant mortality rate is 300% more than the U.S. Average.
* One out of every four Lakotah children born are fostered or adopted out to non-Indian homes.
* Diseases such as tuberculosis, polio, etc. are present. Cancer is now at epidemic proportions!
* Teenage suicide rate is 150% higher than the U.S national average for this group.

DISEASE:

* The Tuberculosis rate on Lakotah reservations is approx. 800% higher than the U.S national average.
* Cervical cancer is 500% higher than the U.S national average.
* The rate of diabetes is 800% higher than the U.S national average.
* Federal Commodity Food Program provides high sugar foods that kill Native people through diabetes and heart disease.

POVERTY:

* Median income is approximately $2,600 to $3,500 per year.
* 97% of our Lakotah people live below the poverty line.
* Many families cannot afford heating oil, wood or propane and many residents use ovens to heat their homes.

UNEMPLOYMENT:

* Unemployment rates on our reservations are 80% or higher.
* Government funding for job creation is lost through cronyism and corruption.

HOUSING:

* Elderly die each winter from hypothermia (freezing).
* 1/3 of the homes lack basic clean water and sewage while 40% lack electricity.
* 60% of Reservation families have no telephone.
* 60% of housing is infected with potentially fatal black molds.
* There is an estimated average of 17 people living in each family home (many only have two to three rooms). Some homes, built for 6 to 8 people, have up to 30 people living in them.

DRUGS AND ALCOHOL:

* More than half the Reservation’s adults battle addiction and disease.
* Alcoholism affects 9 in 10 families.
* Two known meth-amphetamine labs allowed to continue operation. Why?

INCARCERATION:

* Indian children incarceration rate 40% higher than whites.
* In South Dakota, 21 percent of state prisoners are American Indians, yet they only make up 2% of the population.
* Indians have the second largest state prison incarceration rate in the nation.
* Most Indians live on federal reservations. Less than 2% of Indians live where the state has jurisdiction!

THREATENED CULTURE:

* Only 14% of the Lakotah population can speak the Lakotah language.
* The language is not being shared inter-generationally. Today, the average age of a fluent Lakotah speaker is 65 years.
* Our Lakotah language is an Endangered Language, on the verge of extinction.
* Our Lakotah language is not allowed to be taught in the U.S. Government schools.

We should demand the Irish government start a save the native Indian of the USA program with suitable programs like they do for the third world countries like Southern Africa or similar.If the native Indian reserves of the USA come under the same umbrella of third world aid this might force the USA government to stop and reverse this genocide policy

Derry

Manic Moran

The article does a great job of quoting statistics, but doesn't seem to do a damned bit of analysing. Reservations have a hell of a lot of legal autonomy within the US, with their own little governments. Any chance that poor/bloody-minded government may have an issue to do with this? Maybe, for their religious reasons, they don't like vaccinations, or want to do their own education or some such.

Need more info.

NTM

Overheal

Im with NTM. Reservations are legally Autonomous. They requested that. They got it. Some of their reserves span across states. Not marked politically, but they are in all effect sub-states. They govern themselves. If they want to trade, they can, and they do. If they want medicine, they're welcome to it. But everything I know of the Native American is that they are Traditionalists and Isolationists. Bit like the Amish. There isn't much we can do for them, unless they want us to.

Most Indians live on federal reservations. Less than 2% of Indians live where the state has jurisdiction!


Says it all really.

derry

Manic Moran wrote: »

The article does a great job of quoting statistics, but doesn't seem to do a damned bit of analysing. Reservations have a hell of a lot of legal autonomy within the US, with their own little governments. Any chance that poor/bloody-minded government may have an issue to do with this? Maybe, for their religious reasons, they don't like vaccinations, or want to do their own education or some such.

Need more info.

NTM

I think from memory the big statistic from that site was genoside of 14,000,000 Native Indians from the contenent of the USA over the last few centuaries
In the 1900 era it was popular to forceably take the children of the native Indians into foster homes or stater run boarding schools Orpahnages etc where the native Indians wer subjected to sexual predation and even injuries and murder at the hands of these white folk who practiced genoside on the native Indians

Anyway often the people who practice this genoside in this case the USA government supress the statistics so as to make it difficult to show clearly they are conducting this genoside in a deliberate and planned manner

This process of genoside against the native Indians was made more easy when the USA with operation paper clip in the end for WW2 took most all the NAZI doctors from the NAZI concentration camps to the USA .Then the USA set those doctors up to head up the WHO world health organization so that the USA could continue to practice it Euginics policies both in the USA and worldwide with well trained and well experienced euginics doctors such as could only be found in NAZI germany.

From the early 1920 era through to the WW" era thirty states in the USA practiced Euginics where people deemd to be of low IQ were forceably sterilised with a higher than normal rate of sterilisations being done to minorities like the Black people and the native Indians .The euginics lobby in the Pre WW2 USA fought hard to to keep the USA suppling the NAZI germany with everything it needed to conduct war and Hitler personnaly thanked the USA euginics lobby for all the good ideas they gave to him on how to do and conduct a scientific euginics policy and Hitler was for the USA euginics movement thier star pupil.Unfortunaly for the Euginics movement based in the uSA they had to go to ground and remain less high profile during the war against Hitler and after the war the 30 states with eugics policies had to scrap the policies from the state laws.

However the pratices continued in more suble ways ever since and with the advent of the Internet we in Ireland or you in Afganastan can see the information presented from the likes of the internet site .........
http://www.republicoflakotah.com ...........

I cant spoon feed all the data so the site is pointer and you can feel fre towander off and check the facts at your lesure

Bear in mind the euginics are still deeply embeddeded in the USA stucture and high profile examples areRockerfellers foundation and Microsofts Bill Gates who comes from a family who have a long line of being deeply involved in Euginics policies in the USA with his dad being head of planned parenthood a euginics movement and now through the Bill Gates funds the desire to speread euginics world wide can be launched with larger budgets
With euginics people of large wealth like that it hard for the poorer native indians to fight back the propaganda off the euginics movements who are well funded


Documantry on forced sterliazation in 35 states of the early thirtiies USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Tuu8JI2xU&feature=PlayList&p=EEE3F51FFB962000&index=2

NB above link is part three but if you want watch all parts to get the full story


example vidio of Bill gate and euginics policy vidio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-eX4h90vk

Documantry of the secret sterlization of native indains in the 1970 with Bush in charge of this policy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsAK7jS0WY

Documentry the genoside of the native indians of the usa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD1MNHy2S2M

Derry

ChocolateSauce

OP, I think you need to look up the term genocide. When Obama sends in troops and starts exterminating whole families, it'll be genocide.

Zillah

So, let me get this straight: A group of people choose to live in a legally autonomous area with little or no infrastructure...and we're surprised they have a lower standard of living compared to developed areas? They're even calling it a Republic but they're hurling all of this at the federal government. Laughable.

Overheal

As well as that, how much genocide is going on when Forced Sterilization hasn't taken place in over 30 years, and Operation Paperclip happened over 60 years ago? I just don't see the logic-flow here. Certainly nothing that implies we are somehow killing off these Native Americans forcibly.

More over theres too many other factors to consider. As in my last post, they don't necessarily consent to the use of our medicine. As well as that, their genetic diversity could very well be in decline. The article talks about heating oil and stoves and all of that but you have to remember that they made that choice decades ago that they wanted to be autonomous. And they are. The US can hardly be held responsible. The Amish do well enough for themselves without phones or electricity. I'd hardly call the lack of a Telephone a poverty case. An inconvenience, sure. Not an argument for "Genocide". Evidently their education system is doing poorly as well. Though they seem to have a decent Web Designer among them.

bonkey

Overheal wrote: »

As in my last post, they don't necessarily consent to the use of our medicine.

Derry, elsewhere on boards.ie, is posting about how the up-and-coming vaccines for the H1N1 pandemic are a really, really bad thing which we should all avoid because - amongst other reasons - they are man-made, so I'm pretty sure that he would see the Lakota refusing medical aid as a positive move on their part.

Its interesting how one poster can suggest that we're supposed to run in fear of the medical steps our government may take against us, but are supposed to petitition the same government to offer aid to other people.

So trust them to help others, but not their own, is that it Derry?

Overheal

That being true, sounds like an interesting Conspiracy Theory thread, regarding the H1N1.

Stepping back onto topic though, If Derry wants to call it Genocide, I'll happily discredit the merits of the argument without resorting to personal jibes.

Manic Moran

I think from memory the big statistic from that site was genoside of 14,000,000 Native Indians from the contenent of the USA over the last few centuaries

Not saying there was no such attempt in the past, but that's far from saying that it's the current (or even recent) government policy.

NTM

Overheal

Indeed, the vast, vast, vast majority of those killings (if not all) came before the Federal Reservation Programs. No, it would not surprise me to find out the death toll was that high during the frontier days. yeehaw, and all that.

bonkey

Overheal wrote: »

Stepping back onto topic though, If Derry wants to call it Genocide, I'll happily discredit the merits of the argument without resorting to personal jibes.

I thought I was on topic, and wasn't trying to make any personal jibes.

Derry's argument has two parts:

1) There is a genocide against the Lakota
2) We should petition the Irish government to help them.

Regardless of whether or not there is a genocide, the question of petitioning our government to help or offer help in some way, surely remains valid?

While posters here have argued that the problems faced on these mostly-autonomous reservations are often caused internally, the same can be said of many of the poor nations that the Irish government does help.

If the Lakota have autonomy, they may wish to be seen to be independant of the US. That doesn't mean that they necessarily wish to reject all offers of aid from elsewhere. Autonomy should allow them the freedom to be offered and to accept such aid.

From that perspective, I think its more than valid to question why Derry feels we should ask our government to take such steps, given the position he has taken elsewhere against government aid.

bonkey

Overheal wrote: »

Indeed, the vast, vast, vast majority of those killings

The vast majority is based in the death-toll which disease brought by the first European exlorers wreaked.

Overheal

well those deaths cant be helped or really blamed. nobody knew better then.

Reindeer

Overheal wrote: »

Im with NTM. Reservations are legally Autonomous. They requested that. They got it. Some of their reserves span across states. Not marked politically, but they are in all effect sub-states. They govern themselves. If they want to trade, they can, and they do. If they want medicine, they're welcome to it. But everything I know of the Native American is that they are Traditionalists and Isolationists. Bit like the Amish. There isn't much we can do for them, unless they want us to.

Most Indians live on federal reservations. Less than 2% of Indians live where the state has jurisdiction!


Says it all really.

They are not substates - they are offically Indian Nations under the US Federal Government.

As for the genocide comments, I understand where the OP is coming from. Where they are at at this point in time is due in no small part to the genocide carried out by the Federal government years ago - autonomous or not.

Overheal

Reindeer wrote: »

They are not substates - they are offically Indian Nations under the US Federal Government.

As for the genocide comments, I understand where the OP is coming from. Where they are at at this point in time is due in no small part to the genocide carried out by the Federal government years ago - autonomous or not.

No, he says we are continuing to do so. Thats not the case at all.

Reindeer

Overheal wrote: »

No, he says we are continuing to do so. Thats not the case at all.

It is. The Federal government put them in this situation, and is STILL hurting them, directly or not.