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The Catholic Church is the oracle of God

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  • 05-07-2009 5:41pm
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    MacAvoydgeen
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    The following is quoted from the editorial in the current issue of the publication that gets more readership in Irish Republic than any other periodical, namely ALIVE! CATHOLIC MONTHLY NEWSPAPER (goes to 385,000 households).

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    Headline: <b>U.S. President debases Christian faith, exalts doubt.</b>

    Speaking recently to students at the Catholic university of Notre Dame, President Barack Obama neatly robbed Christian faith of all meaning. "Hold firm to your faith," he told the students, "and allow it to guide you on your journey. But remember too that the ultimate irony of faith is that it necessarily admits doubt."

    This is false. A doubting faith is not faith at all. It is simply opinion, uncertainty, indeed unbelief. Obama shifted the meaning of faith from 'knowing' to 'having an opinion'. For the Catholic Church, however, faith is not mere opinion. It is sure and certain knowledge, based on God's word. Christian faith does not admit doubt.... Through faith we <i>know</i> that the Church was founded by Christ and is his body....

    "Doubt", Obama said, "should not push us away from our faith." This is nonsense. A doubting faith is an absurdity, another version of the square circle.....

    The great John Henry Newman said: "The Church does not allow her children to entertain any doubt of her teaching.... No one can be a Catholic without a simple faith, that what the Church declares in God's name is God's word, and therefore true. A man must simply believe that the Church is the oracle of God."
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    Since about 95% of Irish Republic people profess to be Catholic believers, and since this quote is from the most widely circulated publication among them, the quote is telling you something about their current state of mind.


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    DrumSteve
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    this makes no sense.


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    ChocolateSauce
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    Whenever I'm considering Alive! I usually keep in mind it is written by and for insane Catholic fascists.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    MacAvoydgeen wrote: »
    The following is quoted from the editorial in the current issue of the publication that gets more readership in Irish Republic than any other periodical, namely ALIVE! CATHOLIC MONTHLY NEWSPAPER (goes to 385,000 households).
    not everyone in those housholds reads it.
    Since about 95% of Irish Republic people profess to be Catholic believers,
    where did you get the 95% from ???

    cba even checking if the quote is in the paper or even it is true

    as to the church be the oracle of God , even the pope is only infallible on matters of doctrine when he specifically invokes the clause and even that is by a minority decision of the cardinals


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    sceptre
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    1. This has nothing to do with Politics. I know we get lots of people who both try to square circles here as well as people who swear blind that circles either should be squared or are squared but it's still nothing to do with Politics. It just looks like you found a forum on the web and popped it in there. That's naughty and rude.
    2. You didn't read the charter - you're obliged to give your opinion rather than just cutting and pasting. Saying "this tells you something" is not expresing your opinion.
    3. See 1.

    Locked.


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