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Boards.ie World XI - Winger/ Attcking Mid/ Playmaker

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  • #152
    Kinetic^
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    Messi
    Kaka
    Ronaldo


  • #153
    Liam O
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,430 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    I don't know if this has been said but the position for this is too vague. Some are attacking centre mids (Iniesta) and others (Rooney/Henry/Gerrard/Aguero) are strikers while others are wingers (Ribery/Robben). This should have been broken up a bit more imo.


  • #154
    eirebhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Liam O wrote: »
    I don't know if this has been said but the position for this is too vague. Some are attacking centre mids (Iniesta) and others (Rooney/Henry/Gerrard/Aguero) are strikers while others are wingers (Ribery/Robben). This should have been broken up a bit more imo.
    Just think of it as building a team with the popular 4-2-3-1 formation. Henry and others may also be in the striker poll.

    btw, Gerrard a striker? :)


  • #155
    Liam O
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,430 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Just think of it as building a team with the popular 4-2-3-1 formation. Henry and others may also be in the striker poll.

    btw, Gerrard a striker? :)

    really don't want to get into the argument but yes he is. He plays up front with Torres with little defensive responsibility=striker

    I think there was a big argument about it a few months ago...


  • #156
    JPA
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    Liam O wrote: »
    really don't want to get into the argument but yes he is. He plays up front with Torres with little defensive responsibility=striker

    I think there was a big argument about it a few months ago...

    It's a silly argument though.
    Is Kaka a striker? NO IMO.


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  • #157
    Liam O
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,430 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    JPA wrote: »
    It's a silly argument though.
    Is Kaka a striker? NO IMO.

    I know. But Rooney playing in a similar position IS a striker so go figure. It really is just a lot of hullaballoo about something that doesn't really matter.


  • #158
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Davaeo09 wrote: »
    and not only that, but he has a really impressive assit total ( I'll find the exact figure soon)

    Iniesta has 10 assists in the league & Champions League.

    Gerrard has 10 as well in the same comps.


  • #159
    Unearthly
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    Confirmed

    Ronaldo - Gerrard - Messi

    No argument from me. I would of picked Kaka but there is not much difference at all.


  • #160
    Spud83
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    I really wish these polls were public :(


  • #161
    PiE
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    carlop wrote: »
    Iniesta hardly appeared overnight!
    You're right he didn't. But the "I always said he was a brilliant player" comments sure did.


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  • #162
    Juan Pablo
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    Wow, Gerrard > Kaka? Surprised by that.


  • #163
    nkay1985
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    Juan Pablo wrote: »
    Wow, Gerrard > Kaka? Surprised by that.

    I'm more surprised by Kaka > Iniesta to be honest. Also find it interesting that one in three people don't think Ronaldo should be there!


  • #164
    redzerdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Juan Pablo wrote: »
    Wow, Gerrard > Kaka? Surprised by that.

    am not surprised at all gerrard is the best AM in the world at the minute and is just after finishing another fantastic season. while kaka is a great player he is not the same player he was 3/4 seasons ago and the last two years he has declined a bit, maybe the move to madrid will freshen him up and he will regain the form that made him the best player in the world a few years ago.


  • #165
    Bobalicious93
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    12.02% of people here are retarded for not voting for Messi


  • #166
    PHB
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    I'd love a good PR-STV in here, would be interesting.


  • #167
    eirebhoy
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    I'd say those that didn't vote for Messi are those that voted for just 1 player.


  • #168
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,461 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Juan Pablo wrote: »
    Wow, Gerrard > Kaka? Surprised by that.

    I'd say there are a few people that voted with the team in mind, as opposed to individual players.

    Kaka, individually, may be better than Gerrard.
    Iniesta, individually, may be better than Gerrard.

    However, when looking at it from a team perspective, I reckon Gerrard got a good number of votes based on the fact many people will vote Torres as the striker, and the Gerrard/Torres partnership is brilliant, and is what people voted for, imo.


  • #169
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Are you really going to try and say that a team with Essien, Xavi, Messi, Gerrard and Ronaldo isn't creative?! I would say the only one of those who isn't very creative is Ronaldo. Its not like Gerrard in for Iniesta is a real let down on creativity, he's slightly less creative, but scores way more goals. If teamed with Torres, i think the creativity is not even very different as Gerrard and Torres have a nigh on telepathic understanding, play amazing through balls and link ups together.
    Pro. F wrote:
    Essien, Xavi, Messi & Ronaldo - there is boat loads of creativity and approach play there (Ronaldo still adds a good bit creatively imo).
    I never said the team wouldn't be creative - I said you "miss out on a certain amount of creativity and approach play". You're just reversing the argument though to "you miss out on goals if Gerrard isn't in" - I guess it's just a difference of opinion, mainly because I wouldn't consider Essien 'creative' in that sense, especially as he was voted in as a DM so he'll be back minding the house. And Ronaldo I'll still maintain is a (lethal) finisher now, not a creator.

    Also, if you're going to bring understanding into it, I'd rather enjoy having both the Iniesta-Messi-Xavi axis and the Iniesta-Xavi-Torres/Villa (if either of those are voted in) combo in the team. More options than planning on building the team around the only two Liverpool players in there (if Torres gets in).


  • #170
    Juan Pablo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Juan Pablo


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I'd say there are a few people that voted with the team in mind, as opposed to individual players.

    Kaka, individually, may be better than Gerrard.
    Iniesta, individually, may be better than Gerrard.

    However, when looking at it from a team perspective, I reckon Gerrard got a good number of votes based on the fact many people will vote Torres as the striker, and the Gerrard/Torres partnership is brilliant, and is what people voted for, imo.

    I can see where you are coming from alright, I really just picked who I felt were the three best from that list. Although Iniesta probably deserves to be in as well, but there wasn't the room!


  • #171
    Pro. F
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    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    mainly because I wouldn't consider Essien 'creative' in that sense, especially as he was voted in as a DM so he'll be back minding the house. And Ronaldo I'll still maintain is a (lethal) finisher now, not a creator.
    I mentioned Essien because he has the required ability to help keep possession. Get the ball from the back line, turn and give it to the really creative lads. He'd help keep things ticking over when the team was in possession.
    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    I never said the team wouldn't be creative - I said you "miss out on a certain amount of creativity and approach play". You're just reversing the argument though to "you miss out on goals if Gerrard isn't in" - I guess it's just a difference of opinion,
    Yeah I agree, it does just boil down to a different view of what would be best/most useful.


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