Auschwitz Museum Director Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax

marcsignal

Morlar wrote: »

The world of american academia is tripping over itself on this subject, even in europe schools now have compulsory holocaust advisers and education packs etc. It is the single most promoted area of history in western education systems.

I agree, and it really begs the question, what is/are the lesson(s) the schoolchildren are supposed to be learning?

(To quote "Dr. Gulie Ne'eman Arad")
What are the lessons of the Holocaust? 'Don't elect Hitler?' 'Don't kill 6 million Jews?'

because it seems to me that the true (in my opinion) 'lessons of the Holocaust', (the evils of persecution, racism, ethnic cleansing, coloniosation of land conquered during war, the expliotation of indigenous populations in conquered countries, the invasion of other countries to begin with, the bombing of civilians, using weapons and tactics forbidden by international law, the general breaching of international agreements such as the Geneva Convention, and I could go on), have been completely lost on quite a number of countries since the end of WW2. In some cases, within 10 years of the end of that war.

Are we to assume, that by the time the next generation of children, have grown into adulthood, and take on the responsibility of running this world, that there will be no more (or a substantial reduction in such) international abominations, as we see every day on our TV screens, as a result of 'Holocaust Awareness?'

For the sake of humanity, I really hope it does, but from where I'm looking, at the moment, things actually seem to be getting worse in this regard, not better.

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labelleseine7

You are a moron and a Holocaust denier. I am a little shocked that this website allows you to post your message of hate and uninformed comments. Specifically, no Jewish Sonderkommando killed Jews or other victims at Auschwitz or anywhere else. They were utilized exclusively to process the corpses of those killed in the gas chambers. The person who tossed Zyklon B cannisters into the gas chambers was ALWAYS an SS camp guard. This is confirmed by even a cursory reading of any standard reference, including "Anatomy of Auschwitz Death Camp", by Yisrael Gutman and Terence Des Pres, "Auschwitz", by Lawrence Rees, Auschwitz: 1270 to the Present", by Deborah Dwork and Robert Jan Van Pelt, etc. Do not post these lies again on this site. I am forwarding your postings to the Centre Des Juives Contemporaines in Paris and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Be forewarned.

George Orwell

Dear Holocaust Denier:
Obs! Have you come to the right place? We are people involved with working for Free Speech and need no instructions by Governments, politicians, rabbis, clergy, churches, religionists, on either what that word means, or how to go about it. They are too busy lining their own pockets and feathering their own nests.
Shalom, peace, and pax to you. We all love you. Have a good day!
http://europeanhumanrights.com

Fuinseog

labelleseine7 wrote: »

You are a moron and a Holocaust denier. I am a little shocked that this website allows you to post your message of hate and uninformed comments. Specifically, no Jewish Sonderkommando killed Jews or other victims at Auschwitz or anywhere else. They were utilized exclusively to process the corpses of those killed in the gas chambers. The person who tossed Zyklon B cannisters into the gas chambers was ALWAYS an SS camp guard. This is confirmed by even a cursory reading of any standard reference, including "Anatomy of Auschwitz Death Camp", by Yisrael Gutman and Terence Des Pres, "Auschwitz", by Lawrence Rees, Auschwitz: 1270 to the Present", by Deborah Dwork and Robert Jan Van Pelt, etc. Do not post these lies again on this site. I am forwarding your postings to the Centre Des Juives Contemporaines in Paris and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Be forewarned.

unless this is a gathering of the socialist workers party or anti fa we attack the post not the poster.calling people morons is not appreciated.

Fuinseog

This is confirmed by even a cursory reading of any standard reference, including "Anatomy of Auschwitz Death Camp", by Yisrael Gutman and Terence Des Pres, "Auschwitz", by Lawrence Rees, Auschwitz: 1270 to the Present", by Deborah Dwork and Robert Jan Van Pelt, etc. Do not post these lies again on this site. I am forwarding your postings to the Centre Des Juives Contemporaines in Paris and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Be forewarned.[/QUOTE]


sure, if it is written in these books then it must be true.

xflyer

labelleseine, you shouldn't have resurrected this thread. You'll now get hit for an ad hominen attack and the people who perpetrate this nonsense get another shot at wheeling out their peculiar version of history. This whole military history forum has long being spoiled by the intervention of revisionists intent on rehabilitating the Nazis. They are very careful too, to avoid been accused of being anti semitic.

You honestly cannot mention any aspect of WW2 without one or other intervening and dragging it away into the version of history with Hitler as a misunderstood German patriot manipulated into invading most of Europe by a huge Zionist/Communist conspiracy.

The worst thing about them is the superficial plausibility of many of their points of view.

Really though, concentration camps were holiday camps for political prisoners.:rolleyes:

marcsignal

labelleseine7 wrote: »

You are a moron and a Holocaust denier. I am a little shocked that this website allows you to post your message of hate and uninformed comments. Specifically, no Jewish Sonderkommando killed Jews or other victims at Auschwitz or anywhere else. They were utilized exclusively to process the corpses of those killed in the gas chambers. The person who tossed Zyklon B cannisters into the gas chambers was ALWAYS an SS camp guard. This is confirmed by even a cursory reading of any standard reference, including "Anatomy of Auschwitz Death Camp", by Yisrael Gutman and Terence Des Pres, "Auschwitz", by Lawrence Rees, Auschwitz: 1270 to the Present", by Deborah Dwork and Robert Jan Van Pelt, etc. Do not post these lies again on this site. I am forwarding your postings to the Centre Des Juives Contemporaines in Paris and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Be forewarned.

@ labelleseine see here for some of George Orwells Finer work

http://kim-freethoughts.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html

http://joy-thought.blogspot.com/2010/04/historical-enigmas-about-auschwitz.html

if you want to chat with him you'll find him at the email address in bold here

http://www.google.ie/#hl=en&q=%22kimc%40asia.com%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=%22kimc%40asia.com%22&gs_rfai=&fp=4927714e6051804e

Do him a favour and try to convince him to undergoe some kind of psychiatric treatment.

Incidentally, when he says things like:

George Orwell wrote: »

Obs! Have you come to the right place? We are people involved with working for Free Speech .......

he is refering to himself, and perhaps the voices he hears in the grape sized ulcer located at the top of his spine, and NOT anyone else on this thread or forum.

xflyer

Yeah Marcsignal, it's only George who need psychiatric treatment.:(

citizen_p

xflyer wrote: »

labelleseine, you shouldn't have resurrected this thread. You'll now get hit for an ad hominen attack and the people who perpetrate this nonsense get another shot at wheeling out their peculiar version of history. This whole military history forum has long being spoiled by the intervention of revisionists intent on rehabilitating the Nazis. They are very careful too, to avoid been accused of being anti semitic.

You honestly cannot mention any aspect of WW2 without one or other intervening and dragging it away into the version of history with 1. Hitler as a misunderstood German patriot manipulated into invading most of Europe by a huge Zionist/Communist conspiracy.

The worst thing about them is the superficial plausibility of many of their points of view.

2. Really though, concentration camps were holiday camps for political prisoners.:rolleyes:

1. Hitler was seen as the ultimate patriot in germany tbh, he had a cult of personality around him ,right up until the invasion of russia. until then he had united two german speaking countries, took germany out of recession, got rid of the varseille treaty, regained land in czechoslovakia and poland lost in ww2 and had won a war against france (the old enemy, which germany and its former states had several wars against in the 19th/20th century). it was only later that the truth came to light about his ambitions and final solution.

2. in the early 30s thats how they were portrayed to the german people, there was an article in Berliner Illustrirte Zeitung (i think, obviously biased) about dachau in the early 30's , over time, the internment of jews, hitlers policys and the start of the war and Hitlers "final Solution being put in place, I would assume they got severly worse. extermination or death camps were began in 1942 in poland. theres a thread on this forum currently about the manufacturers of the cremitoriums.

just note there is a diffrence between concentration camps (slave labour etc... bad conditions) and death/extermination camps (liquidizing jewish and others, worst conditions)

wikipedia, but still ok wrote:

During the 20th century, the arbitrary internment of civilians by the state reached a climax with Nazi concentration camps (1933–1945). As a result, the term "concentration camp" carries many of the connotations of "death camp" or "extermination camp", and is sometimes used synonymously.
However, even Nazi concentration camps were not necessarily death camps. For example, some camps were sources of slave labor: the inmates were exploited rather than killed, although many were worked to death or killed for refusing to work.
Because of these negative connotations, the term "concentration camp", originally itself a euphemism, has been replaced by newer euphemisms such as internment camp, resettlement camp, and detention facility, regardless of the actual circumstances of these camps, which vary a great deal.

marcsignal

xflyer wrote: »

Yeah Marcsignal, it's only George who need psychiatric treatment.:(

there's a fine line between free speech and an acid casualty

Mahatma coat

I'm confused, Who has actually denied the Holocaust on this thread???????

If the Hasbra Shills are Taking names then they can take mine too, I'm another one who Despises that Sort of Bullying tactic, I intend to make it onto Abe Foxmans List of Nastiest people on the planet this year

jonniebgood1

Mousey- wrote: »

1. Hitler was seen as the ultimate patriot in germany tbh, he had a cult of personality around him ,right up until the invasion of russia. until then he had united two german speaking countries, took germany out of recession, got rid of the varseille treaty, regained land in czechoslovakia and poland lost in ww2 and had won a war against france (the old enemy, which germany and its former states had several wars against in the 19th/20th century). it was only later that the truth came to light about his ambitions and final solution.

2. in the early 30s thats how they were portrayed to the german people, there was an article in Berliner Illustrirte Zeitung (i think, obviously biased) about dachau in the early 30's , over time, the internment of jews, hitlers policys and the start of the war and Hitlers "final Solution being put in place, I would assume they got severly worse. extermination or death camps were began in 1942 in poland. theres a thread on this forum currently about the manufacturers of the cremitoriums.

just note there is a diffrence between concentration camps (slave labour etc... bad conditions) and death/extermination camps (liquidizing jewish and others, worst conditions)

There is a difference. It is not however a difference that makes any better the crimes commited in both. The crimes of the the 30's and the concentration camps were intrinsic in the formation of the death camps, both in physical terms and also phschologically. i.e. one could not have happened without the other.

xflyer

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I'm confused, Who has actually denied the Holocaust on this thread???????

No one actually. Too careful for that. But it's clear enough. People don't express anti semitic views either or pro Nazi or neo Nazi attitudes. So I for one cannot accuse anyone of holding those viewpoints. That would be ad hominen and would quite offend people.

Everyone here is fair minded and only wants the truth to be told and there never were gas chambers in Auschwitz.........................

Fuinseog

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I'm confused, Who has actually denied the Holocaust on this thread???????

If the Hasbra Shills are Taking names then they can take mine too, I'm another one who Despises that Sort of Bullying tactic, I intend to make it onto Abe Foxmans List of Nastiest people on the planet this year

Holocaust denial is questioning any aspect of the made to measure version of events known as the holocaust, the facts of which are modified every few years to suit whatever agenda the all powerful Jewish lobby wish to present us.


In the future those who question the official version of events (the holocaust is probably the only event which may not be debated) will probably be liquidated by a Mossad hit squad.

Fuinseog

xflyer wrote: »

No one actually. Too careful for that. But it's clear enough. People don't express anti semitic views either or pro Nazi or neo Nazi attitudes. So I for one cannot accuse anyone of holding those viewpoints. That would be ad hominen and would quite offend people.

Everyone here is fair minded and only wants the truth to be told and there never were gas chambers in Auschwitz.........................

why does everyone still use the German place name? the place is in Poland so why not give it its real name. the only reason I can think of using the German name is to prolong negative associations with Germany.

Mahatma coat

Fuinseog wrote: »

Holocaust denial is questioning any aspect of the made to measure version of events known as the holocaust, the facts of which are modified every few years to suit whatever agenda the all powerful Jewish lobby wish to present us.

Well I figured that, I'd just like to know what in particular raised the enough Hackles to have someone bump a Zombie thread, seems to me that the mere Questioning, Heck the mere suggestion of a discrepency, is enough to get you labelled as a Nazi

In the future those who question the official version of events (the holocaust is probably the only event which may not be debated) will probably be liquidated by a Mossad hit squad.

so long as the fuppers dont use Irish Passports when they do it:)


I think most people refer to it as Auschwitz as it was Very much a creation of the Third Reich, I dont think the Poles really mind that its asscosiated with Germany and not them.


And Xflyer, thats a bit glib now init, Teh size, functionality design and efficiency of the Gas chambers are the things that are being discussed, It is known that the Soviets 'reconstructed' the Chambers present today, What is not in dispute is that there were Gas Chambers and Incinerators used to dispose of Untermensch, there another thread on this forum with testimonies of the Private contractors who built the bloody things.

What is up for discussion are the numbers and the logistics of the events

Fuinseog

I would question why the holocaust has become so important for us.

I was reading today how Leopold of Belgium killed 10 million Africans, whom he regarded as subhuman.

Stalin murdered millions.

Rwanda, who cares?

Ther Balkans? irrelevant.

The holcaust was the worst thing that befell mankind if its promoters are to be believed.

If I was to pursue the 'Bastard British' line and harp on about the famine I would told that I was immature. maybe it is time for the Jews to do the same. Jewish hatred of teh Germans is self hatred as so many European Jews had a shared Germanic culture. Maybe it is time to investiagte it properly, without threatening anyone and consign it to history.

jonniebgood1

Fuinseog wrote: »

I would question why the holocaust has become so important for us.
.

It has become important to us because it was an horrific attempt to eliminate an entire community of people in a way that is widely visible to many people and it happened in a modern civilised nation very similar to our own.

Fuinseog wrote: »

I was reading today how Leopold of Belgium killed 10 million Africans, whom he regarded as subhuman.

Stalin murdered millions.

Rwanda, who cares?

Ther Balkans? irrelevant.
.

You should care about these things, If not you have no business posting anything in a historical context. What do you mean by saying "The Balkans? irrelevant." It is not irrelevent to those involved for a start.

Ther Balkans? irrelevant.

Fuinseog wrote: »

Jewish hatred of teh Germans is self hatred as so many European Jews had a shared Germanic culture. Maybe it is time to investiagte it properly, without threatening anyone and consign it to history .

Do you have an example of Jewish hatred of Germans? As far as I can see the German community have been for the most part up front and honest about their history so I dont see why this would exist beyond a few fanatics. Your self hatred comment is misguided (to put it mildly) given the fate that alot of the European Jews with German culture had in WWII.

Why would you want to consign the Holocaust to history? Is it not common for war and details of it to be studied at length?

endakenny

Fuinseog wrote: »

Ther Balkans? irrelevant.

If the genocide in the former Yugoslavia was irrelevant it wouldn't have been top story on News at Ten.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/677700.stm

marcsignal

endakenny wrote: »

If the genocide in the former Yugoslavia was irrelevant it wouldn't have been top story on News at Ten.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/677700.stm

well one thing's for sure, you can always depend on the media for accurate info :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8SrRTEW338

endakenny

marcsignal wrote: »

well one thing's for sure, you can always depend on the media for accurate info :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8SrRTEW338

Your sarcasm is painfully obvious. ITN and its correspondents who visited Omarska - Penny Marshall and Ian Williams - sued Communist magazine Living Marxism (LM) for libel and won. They struck a blow against the Yugoslav government, which was in the same ideological camp as the perpetrators of the murder of the Russian royal family, the Katyn massacre and the persecution of Buddhists, Muslims and Christians in the so-called People's Republic of China. By the way, just in case you have forgotten, ITN stands for Independent Television News.

marcsignal

endakenny wrote: »

By the way, just in case you have forgotten, ITN stands for Independent Television News.

ITV are mentioned specifically @ 37:40 & 1:10:30 in that clip.

endakenny

marcsignal wrote: »

ITV are mentioned specifically @ 37:40 & 1:10:30 in that clip.

I saw that documentary just before Christmas. John Pilger wasn't necessarily accusing the BBC and ITN of lying about the aid ship incident. Besides, Arab women's rights in Israel are much better protected than in other Middle Eastern countries e.g. in Israel, "honour killing" is treated as murder, full stop.

marcsignal

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with anything you've said. I'm simply making the point that one should reamain cognisant of the fact that, not only can the media get it spectacularlly wrong, but can also be very selective in their reporting, and as Pilger appears to have shown, they don't always have a choice in the matter.

Personally, i've become very wary of western news media, particularlly since the lead up to gulf war 2.
I find it interesting also, to listen to how incidents in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are reported here or here.

In my experience, if you can find the points where the stories cross over with western media, you get a little closer to the truth.

sorry to come over as sarcastic a few posts back, it was unintentional.

endakenny

Apology accepted.

xflyer

Fuinseog wrote: »

why does everyone still use the German place name? the place is in Poland so why not give it its real name. the only reason I can think of using the German name is to prolong negative associations with Germany.

Yeah, that's my real motivation and I've been conned to become part of the Jewish conspiracy to continue to blacken Hitler's reputation. Maybe it's time to finish the job and wipe out the Jews once and for all. Oh wait, no one tried to wipe out the Jews. No Jews were gassed at Auschwitz and all those SS men were lying or confused when they confessed, including the camp commander Hoess!

Hasbra Shills all of them!

Artur.PL

why does everyone still use the German place name? the place is in Poland so why not give it its real name. the only reason I can think of using the German name is to prolong negative associations with Germany.

maybe because in those days there was no country like Poland. Area where camp has been built was under German administration and was called III Reich.
In Poland we call it Oświęcim mostly.

Fuinseog

xflyer wrote: »

Yeah, that's my real motivation and I've been conned to become part of the Jewish conspiracy to continue to blacken Hitler's reputation. Maybe it's time to finish the job and wipe out the Jews once and for all. Oh wait, no one tried to wipe out the Jews. No Jews were gassed at Auschwitz and all those SS men were lying or confused when they confessed, including the camp commander Hoess!

Hasbra Shills all of them!

interesting that you mention Hoess. I read his memoir Death Dealer, a book which he wrote while in captivity. I wonder was any of it censored or manipulated by the authorities?


I will never understand how non Jews especially the Irish get so worked up over The Shoah, but could not care less for Rwanda The Irish Famine or similar holocausts.

Fuinseog

Artur.PL wrote: »

maybe because in those days there was no country like Poland. Area where camp has been built was under German administration and was called III Reich.
In Poland we call it Oświęcim mostly.

why not then also say Breslau and Danzig?

AnnyHallsal

Fuinseog wrote: »

interesting that you mention Hoess. I read his memoir Death Dealer, a book which he wrote while in captivity. I wonder was any of it censored or manipulated by the authorities?

So, what's your point?

Fuinseog wrote: »

I will never understand how non Jews especially the Irish get so worked up over The Shoah, but could not care less for Rwanda The Irish Famine or similar holocausts.

Why does it bother you? I don't see the justification for equating, or even comparing, the Shoah and the Famine.

xflyer

Fuinseog wrote: »

interesting that you mention Hoess. I read his memoir Death Dealer, a book which he wrote while in captivity. I wonder was any of it censored or manipulated by the authorities?

Jewish conspirators you mean, he was a cuddly bear who loved his kids wasn't he?

I will never understand how non Jews especially the Irish get so worked up over The Shoah, but could not care less for Rwanda The Irish Famine or similar holocausts.

They all sicken me, the differerence is that I don't seek to obiviate them or justify them. You assume too much. The difference is that there isn't a cabal of apologists who seek to deny or minimise them. Least of all there isn't a determined effort to deny they never happened and rewrite history. When it comes to the Jews there are plenty of people who maintain they were the arbiter of their own misfortune.

I'll tell you what sickens me is that there is certain group of individuals on this particular forum who pretend to be reasonable but who are in effect neo fascists who think the Jews had it coming.

Scum is a word, I use rarely. But appropriate, I think. No ad hominen intended. Goebbels is my inspiration too. A master of propaganda, evil though he was.

Morlar

xflyer wrote: »

I'll tell you what sickens me is that there is certain group of individuals ...

Scum is a word, I use rarely. But appropriate,

Who exactly are you calling 'scum' ? This is not the first time you have introduced personal attacks against unnamed people on this forum, in fact it is your habit and sole contribution to this forum in my view. If all you have to add or contribute here are veiled attacks then why bother ?

Einhard

Fuinseog wrote: »

I will never understand how non Jews especially the Irish get so worked up over The Shoah, but could not care less for Rwanda The Irish Famine or similar holocausts.

First off, most Irish people have a sense for the scale and tragedy of the Irish Famine. Go to practically any town in the country, and you'll find memorials to the 2 million dead and emigrated. Go to any bookshop and prominent in the history section will be books on the famine. There's even an official famine ship! So the notion that Irish people care not for the famine is nonsensical.

As regards the Shoah, most Irish people, and indeed, most people around the world, pay little attention to it until it crosses their attention in an obvious manner. It's the same with Rwanda, and other such horrors. However, there is a major difference, and that is the fact that there isn't a large party of authors out there using dubious historical methods to deny the genocide in Rwanda.

Artur.PL

Fuinseog wrote: »

why not then also say Breslau and Danzig?

But mostly it is Breslau and Danzig for the foreigners. Polish wont't say Breslau but Wrocław.

Do not take me wrong I do not care it is Oswiecim or Auschwitz. More important is people should know what had happened there.
What really make me angry is :"Oświęcim or Auschwitz - polish concentration camp."

xflyer

Morlar wrote: »

Who exactly are you calling 'scum' ? This is not the first time you have introduced personal attacks against unnamed people on this forum, in fact it is your habit and sole contribution to this forum in my view. If all you have to add or contribute here are veiled attacks then why bother ?

Did I call you scum? Did I mention you? Did I pinpoint anyone at all. If so report me to the moderator. He'll ban me.

It's clear what I meant. I'm attacking the anti semites, neo Nazis, holocaust deniers, revisionists etc who contribute to this forum and beyond. There is nothing veiled about it.

Now if you are none of the above you have no reason to be offended. Isn't that right? So why do you worry about the feelings of some extremists?

Why do I bother? I'll tell you why. This forum has been hijacked away from it's remit as a discussion forum on WW2 far too often. There's barely a thread that isn't sidetracked in some form or another. Again and again there are threads and posts that seek to minimise the actions of the Nazis often by comparing their actions to that of other regimes and carefully worded suggestions that the whole Holocaust thing was exaggerated and continues to be exaggerated by the Jews as part of their own twisted agenda.

I'm all for revising history as new information becomes available. But I don't like the subtle propaganda and revisionism carefully written as 'history'.

Clearly if you are open minded person with an interest in history you have no reason to feel offended Morlar. Neither does anyone else with the same attitude. As for the extremists. Who cares what they think.

Morlar

xflyer wrote: »

Did I call you scum? Did I mention you? Did I pinpoint anyone at all. If so report me to the moderator. He'll ban me.

Did I say that you did? What you are doing is skirting around the rules, repeatedly slinging insults into serious threads. It is not constructive in my opinion. It lowers the tone, generally it has an infectious effect across the whole forum in my view. If you are going to start calling people scum why don't I do the same to all of the mongoloid fúcktards I see posting here ? We are all entitled to our opinions, however there is a line and abusing people - even if you stay a hairs breadth within the rules - is not a good development. And no I am not a moderator nor do I wish to be one.

AnnyHallsal

Morlar wrote: »

If you are going to start calling people scum why don't I do the same to all of the mongoloid fúcktards I see posting here ? We are all entitled to our opinions, however there is a line and abusing people - even if you stay a hairs breadth within the rules - is not a good development. And no I am not a moderator nor do I wish to be one.

Xflyer at least described what he thinks constitutes scum: "I'll tell you what sickens me is that there is certain group of individuals on this particular forum who pretend to be reasonable but who are in effect neo fascists who think the Jews had it coming.

Scum is a word, I use rarely. But appropriate, I think. No ad hominen intended. Goebbels is my inspiration too. A master of propaganda, evil though he was."

You have been less clear: what constitutes a mongoloid ****tard?

jonniebgood1

Morlar wrote: »

Did I say that you did? What you are doing is skirting around the rules, repeatedly slinging insults into serious threads. It is not constructive in my opinion. It lowers the tone, generally it has an infectious effect across the whole forum in my view. If you are going to start calling people scum why don't I do the same to all of the mongoloid fúcktards I see posting here ? We are all entitled to our opinions, however there is a line and abusing people - even if you stay a hairs breadth within the rules - is not a good development. And no I am not a moderator nor do I wish to be one.

Xflyer defined a type of person/ people

certain group of individuals on this particular forum who pretend to be reasonable but who are in effect neo fascists who think the Jews had it coming.

and then labelled them with the term 'scum'. If you disagree with this labelling, why not dissipate this assertion with a counter argument rather than threatening to call everyone names. Also to accuse someone of lowering the tone and then describe posters as

Posted my Morlar mongoloid fúcktards

is hypocritical, i.e. the actions of a hypocrite.


http://www.yourdictionary.com/hypocrite

Tony EH

I think what Morlar is trying to say is that once a poster commits to namecalling instead of posting a reasoned argument, it lets not only the discussion at hand down, but the forum as a whole.

It's simply very weak for a poster to resort to shouting names once they come up against a point or opinion that jars with their current conception, pre-conceptions, political view and/or historical bubble...

...and it leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth.

Even the people that would agree.

JeanPierre

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AnnyHallsal

Tony EH wrote: »

I think what Morlar is trying to say is that once a poster commits to namecalling instead of posting a reasoned argument, it lets not only the discussion at hand down, but the forum as a whole.

It's simply very weak for a poster to resort to shouting names once they come up against a point or opinion that jars with their current conception, pre-conceptions, political view and/or historical bubble...

...and it leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth.

Even the people that would agree.

He might have meant that. He also said he thinks some people who post here are mongoloid f*cktards, whatever they are.

Riamfada

I havnt had a chance to keep up with this minefield of a thread and I dont have the time to do it at the moment.

So what I am going to do is lock this thread for a few hours and either myself or another mod will come back to it tonight and hand out bannings if they are necessary.