Boards.ie Fantasy Football 2009/2010 (MOD NOTE - POST #2151)

therecklessone

Xavi6 wrote: »

Bad idea picking the yellow card machine imo. Guaranteed minus point every game, plus suspensions to follow.

+1

Pienar got more points last year despite less goals (more assists though) because he picked up less cards.

My first draft teams:

Given

Baines
O'Shea
Corluka

Nevilla
Barry
Arshavin (c)
Kuyt
Petrov

Robinho
Defoe

subs:

Jaaskelainen
Samba
Figueroa
Doyle

tribulus

Anyone want to recommend me a 5M or less midfielder other than Neville or Mendy?

Actually where can you check up your teams final score for the previous season?

Glico Man

aaronh007 wrote: »

The first draft of Aaron's Red Barons. More than likely will change one or two


T. Howard

A. Hughes
S. Warnock
L. Baines
Y. Zhirkov

S. Gerrard (C)
P. Neville
L. Modric
S. Nasri

F. Torres
S. Ebanks-Blake

Subs:
R. Green
R. Shawcross
R. Gardner
B. Zamora

Already made 10's of changes. And still kept changing.

Basically new team is

T. Howard

B. Hangeland
Y. Zhirkov
L. Baines

S. Gerrard
D. Murphy
L. Modric
P. Neville

F. Torres (C)
S. Ebanks-Blake
G Agbonlahor.

Subs:
T. Sorensen
K. Zayatte
A. Dawson.
B. Mendy


Basically I have a completely Sh1te bench but I feel the 1st team is pretty decent, and I also have £1.5M to spare in case of injuries and such so that I can replace with good quality.

Glico Man

tribulus wrote: »

Anyone want to recommend me a 5M or less midfielder other than Neville or Mendy?

Actually where can you check up your teams final score for the previous season?

Neville is a brilliant midfielder. He gets a very good amount of points.

Huddlestone might be a good bet also. He might also be on the move this season so will probably get a few more games if he does.

Mikel would also be a good bet considering he's starting to cut out the cards and needless fouls

Mr. Incognito

Lampard got 10 more points than Gerrard last season.
I think they're almost identical when it comes to this game.

You think wrong.

Minutes played

Lampard 3256
Gerrard 2623

Nuff said.

Given

vidic
lescott
woodgate
cordula
hangeland

lampard
barry
neville

owen or agbonlahor(which one should i pick)
torres

You're weak at the back. I'm not buying Torres because he is overvalued for such a horribly injury prone player- Anelka is a better buy imo. Owen is going to be a super sub- don't expect starts and you need consistent players in this game. Barry is an unknown quantity at Man City who still haven't done anything about their defence but I think he'll be in a defensive midfield role which will bring down his assists unless he's taking free kicks and penos which I doubt with Robhino on that team. Neville just hasn't the legs any more. I'd bring in Arteta for Barry- swap lampard for Gerrard, drop Owen for Cole which will free up some cash for the back. Given is a 50/50- you just don't know how consistent city are going to be on the road this year which was their problem last year- you could buy two cheap keepers and rotate depending on fixtures.

pwd

work in progress haha:

1: Schwarzer
2: Evra
3: Hangeland
4: Bosingwa
5: Faye Ab
Baines
6: Ireland
7: Arshavin (C)
8: Gerrard
9: Delap
10: Fagan
11: Beattie
====================
12: Jaaskelainen
13: Geovanni
14: Fagan
15: Murphy

I decided Lampard is a bit of a gamble at his price, because he will be 32 soon.

Nuri Sahin

Cech
Sorensen

Zhirkov
Evra
Insua
A. Faye
O'Shea

Arshavin
Gerrard
Milner
Anderson
Boa Morte

Carew
Fuller
Ebanks-Blake

I have changed, altered etc etc with my team at least a dozen times already and will continue to do so until the 1st Gameweek :pac:

Mr. Incognito

Okay hang on here

Man Utd
Game 1: Birmingham
Game 2: Burnley
Game 3: Wigan
Game 4: ARSENAL
Game 5: Tottenham

Chelsea
Game 1: Hull
Game 2: Sunderland
Game 3: Fulham
Game 4: Burnley
Game 5: Stoke

Liverpool
Game 1: Tottenham
Game 2: Stoke
Game 3: Villa
Game 4: Bolton
Game 5: Burnley

Arsenal
Game 1: Everton
Game 2: NO GAME
Game 3: Pompey
Game 4: MAN UTD
Game 5: Man City

So from a points perspective- Man Utd and Chelsea have an easy opening three games- chelsea have an easy opening 5- Arsenal have a nightmare with Utd and a Bye.

Liverpool have a run of games they should win,

Therefore best returns are Chelsea, United, Liverpool in that order.

Also unused transfers carry over so you can transfer 5 players in week 5 if you wish- on the back of that I'm ditching Ardshavan and C. Cole- they'll come good later but warming the bye week and then playing United AWAY after a game out and a tough pompey game. Not worth investing in Arsenal till after week 4 imo.

So my revised line up that should see me through till week 4 or that

1: Schwarzer

2: Evra
3: Cole A
4: Carragher
5: Ferdinand (dodgy back and all)
6: Arbeloa (until we see the shape of preseason)

7: Gerrard
8: Valencia

9: Anelka (C)
10: Beattie
11: Doyle

Seaneh

How the feck do you change formation?

Never mind figured it out.

Changed my team.

now looks like this.

1: Given

2: Cole A
3: Evra
4: Lescott

5: Ireland(C)
6: Young A
7: Cattermole
8: Fletcher
9: Arteta

10: Agbonlahor
11: Keane

12: Sorensen
13: Bridge
14: Doyle
15: Warnock

reckon Fletcher will start a lot of games for UTD next season, or atleast untill Hargreeves gets back, thin swapping Cole for the russian fella was good move and freed up .5, swapping torress for gabby saved me a fair but too.

still think bridge at that price is too good to turn down, added arteta, young and alonso to the midfeild too and now have warnock instead of foley on the bench.

Mr. Incognito

Just sub in and out i.e sub in a defender for a midfielder if you want to play 5 at the back and hit save.

A lot of people best look at the fixtures for gameweek two- no everton west ham arsenal for starters- lots of people around here posting teams will be down 3/4 first team players if they are not carefull

Xavi6

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Barry is an unknown quantity at Man City who still haven't done anything about their defence but I think he'll be in a defensive midfield role which will bring down his assists unless he's taking free kicks and penos which I doubt with Robhino on that team.

Wrong I'm afraid. Robinho took one penalty last year and missed it. Elano takes them and he has a 100% record. If he isn't playing it will be up for grabs and Barry will get the nod. Robinho is also crap at free kicks, barring the one on his debut, and rarely, if ever, takes them. Barry will be involved in most of our set pieces.

One Cold Hand

pwd wrote: »

work in progress haha:

1: Schwarzer
2: Evra
3: Hangeland
4: Bosingwa
5: Faye Ab
Baines
6: Ireland
7: Arshavin (C)
8: Gerrard
9: Delap
10: Fagan
11: Beattie
====================
12: Jaaskelainen
13: Geovanni
14: Fagan
15: Murphy

I decided Lampard is a bit of a gamble at his price, because he will be 32 soon.

You sneaky devil! 12 players starting! Did you think someone wouldn't notice?!

1mcampo1

Any opinions on my team?

Schwarzer

Zayatte
Hangeland
Bramble
Evra
Baines

Pienaar
Gerrard
Neville
Lampard (c)

Torres

Bench:
Hart
Ebanks-Blake
Doyle
Muamba

I'm thinking of bringing in rooney for torres, and then using the .5 left over on my midfield

Jugs82

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Also unused transfers carry over so you can transfer 5 players in week 5 if you wish

Don't think thats true, I think the transfers only carry over from one week and don't accumulate

From the Rules section of the site:

"If you don't use your free transfer then you'll be able to make an additional free transfer the following gameweek. These saved transfers don't accumulate and can only be used the following gameweek."

Warper

aaronh007 wrote: »

Neville is a brilliant midfielder. He gets a very good amount of points.
Huddlestone might be a good bet also. He might also be on the move this season so will probably get a few more games if he does.

Mikel would also be a good bet considering he's starting to cut out the cards and needless fouls

The reason Neville has got points the past few seasons is beacuse he was classified as a defender. This year he is classified as a midfielder so will get fcuk all points this year.

pwd

One Cold Hand wrote: »

You sneaky devil! 12 players starting! Did you think someone wouldn't notice?!

lol

1: Schwarzer
2: Evra
3: Hangeland
4: Bosingwa
5: Faye Ab
Baines
6: Ireland
7: Arshavin (C)
8: Gerrard
9: Delap
10: Fagan
11: Beattie
====================
12: Jaaskelainen
13: Geovanni
14: Fagan
15: Murphy

Necronomicon

Told myself I wouldn't make a team until closer to the beginning of the season but feck it, been a long morning.

James

Evra
Carragher
Hangeland
Corluka
Cole A

Valencia
Lampard (c)
Arteta

Cole
Ebanks-Blake

Subs: Hart, Dempsey, Pienaar, Jerome

I'm just wondering would it be better to slightly weaken the bench and invest a little more into the first team.

Third_Echelon

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You think wrong.

Minutes played

Lampard 3256
Gerrard 2623

Nuff said.

That is minutes played... not points... nuff said

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Also unused transfers carry over so you can transfer 5 players in week 5 if you wish- on the back of that I'm ditching Ardshavan and C. Cole- they'll come good later but warming the bye week and then playing United AWAY after a game out and a tough pompey game. Not worth investing in Arsenal till after week 4 imo.

Jugs82 wrote: »

Don't think thats true, I think the transfers only carry over from one week and don't accumulate

From the Rules section of the site:

"If you don't use your free transfer then you'll be able to make an additional free transfer the following gameweek. These saved transfers don't accumulate and can only be used the following gameweek."

Mr. Incognito

I read the rules wrong then off the start of this thread.

That is minutes played... not points... nuff said

I hope you're joking?

Lampard played 600 minutes more of football last year and only outscored Gerrard by ten points.

If Gerrard stays injury free he'll destroy Lampard points wise as he did two seasons ago- it's mad they are even the same price.

Third_Echelon

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I hope you're joking?

Lampard played 600 minutes more of football last year and only outscored Gerrard by ten points.

If Gerrard stays injury free he'll destroy Lampard points wise as he did two seasons ago- it's mad they are even the same price.

IF.....

peterswellman

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I read the rules wrong then off the start of this thread.



I hope you're joking?

Lampard played 600 minutes more of football last year and only outscored Gerrard by ten points.

If Gerrard stays injury free he'll destroy Lampard points wise as he did two seasons ago- it's mad they are even the same price.

Key word that if.

Lampard is always fit. He always plays he has the stamina of a beast.

I agree Gerrard is probably better value but i certainly wouldn't be having a go at anyone that picks Lampard.

peterswellman

Too slow.:(

Mr. Incognito

You're arguing a moot point. Hold on here.

Lampard just turned 32

Gerrard just turned 29.

IF anyone is likely for injury it's Lamps. But sure- you work away mate. I've no problem people throwing points away. More for me.

Gerrard WILL outscore Lampard. End of.

peterswellman

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You're arguing a moot point. Hold on here.

Lampard just turned 32

Gerrard just turned 29.

IF anyone is likely for injury it's Lamps. But sure- you work away mate. I've no problem people throwing points away. More for me.

Gerrard WILL outscore Lampard. End of.

How many injuries and games has Lampard missed in his career so far in comparision to Gerrard? Lampard is one of the fittest players i've ever seen play and again proved so last season with the amount of milage he clocked up.

If Gerrard stays fit then he will but that's a big if.

Mr. Incognito

Lampard only played 24 league games in 07/08 due to injury.

Gerrard has never played less than 30 though.

He's not invincible- he is a magnificant FF player but if you cannot afford both him and Gerrard Gerrard is young, fitter and will get you more points on average per game played.

jesus_thats_gre

Third_Echelon wrote: »

That is minutes played... not points... nuff said

Third_Echelon wrote: »

IF.....

Am actually torn between the two myself.

I ended up choosing Gerard on the logic that he was replaced by a sub for the 7 games or so that he missed last season. The sub that replaced him in those 7 games, if chosen correctly, would have got well over a total of 10 points for those games.

So, if you take the points collected by Gerard plus sub for 3200 minutes of football, you would have more than likely come out with more points that Lampard got in 3200 mins of football.

Am not talking about an expensive sub either. I am talking about someone like Geovanni, Delap, Piennar, Dempsey, Murphy, Hangeland, Hughes, Pantsil, Baines, Corluka, Evans, Fuller, Beattie and countless others that cost between 5 and 6 million.

Smegball

---

Given

---

Hangelaad----Ferdinand

---

Skrtel

---

Warnock-

Lampard----Arshavin----Pienaar----Dempsey

---

---

Torres

---

Doyle

---

Subs : Hart, Dawson , Jerome, Anderson.

Happy enough with that atm, will likely change a bit though before start of the season, any views on this team?

Third_Echelon

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You're arguing a moot point. Hold on here.

Lampard just turned 32

Gerrard just turned 29.

IF anyone is likely for injury it's Lamps. But sure- you work away mate. I've no problem people throwing points away. More for me.

Gerrard WILL outscore Lampard. End of.

Lampard only turned 31 in June. Give the guy a break...

Its only 2 years in difference and Gerrard is definitely the more injury prone of the two.

It really depends who is in form. Lampard always gets bonus points.. Always a good bet to have as captain.

Gerrard is good to have in the team when he is scoring goals. He tends to go through patches of scoring a lot and then more barren periods.. This is when I'd have him in the team. Other than that you have to go for Lampard.

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Am actually torn between the two myself.

I ended up choosing Gerard on the logic that he was replaced by a sub for the 7 games or so that he missed last season. The sub that replaced him in those 7 games, if chosen correctly, would have got well over a total of 10 points for those games.

So, if you take the points collected by Gerard plus sub for 3200 minutes of football, you would have more than likely come out with more points that Lampard got in 3200 mins of football.

Fair point, but gerrard's points seem to be bunched together in a run of games.. whereas lampard is a consistent scorer of points every week.

Over the season they are pretty much equal, but we all know that winning is about having the form players in the team every week.

Over the past 3 seasons they are actually like for like.

Lampard 33 goals in PL (577 fantasy points)
Gerrard 34 goals in PL (596 fantasy points)

FutureGuy

Smegball wrote: »

---

Given

---

Hangelaad----Ferdinand

---

Skrtel

---

Warnock-

Lampard----Arshavin----Pienaar----Dempsey

---

---

Torres

---

Doyle

---

Subs : Hart, Dawson , Jerome, Anderson.

Happy enough with that atm, will likely change a bit though before start of the season, any views on this team?

Very decent side there. I personally would have Gerrard over Lampard. I'd ditch Anderson for a 4.5 million midfielder from Birmingham and use the 0.5 to get Evra from United instead of Skrtel as he is far more likely to start and keep clean sheets.

One thing though, you will struggle on gameweek 2 as quite a few of your players wont be playing.

If Adebayor goes to City, Arshavin could be the new Ronaldo of FF!

slingerz

---

Reina

---

Hangelaad ---- Evra

---

Skrtel

---

Sagna

---

Gerrard----Cahill----Murphy----Young

---

Neville --

---

Defoe

---

Subs : Hart, Turner , Doyle, Fletcher.

Axwell

Excellent..missed out on the boards one last so looking forward to this

The team at the minute is..*edit changed it again based on Adebyors move going through

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Given

---

Lescott

---

Vidic

---

Hughes

---

Corluka

Modric

---

Gerrard(C)----Ireland

---

Taylor

---

Ebanks-Blake

---

Adebayor

---

Subs

---

Harte
Mendy
Zayatte
Cresswell

Future Guy im gunning for you!!

jesus_thats_gre

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Fair point, but gerrard's points seem to be bunched together in a run of games.. whereas lampard is a consistent scorer of points every week.

Over the season they are pretty much equal, but we all know that winning is about having the form players in the team every week.

Over the past 3 seasons they are actually like for like.

Lampard 33 goals in PL (577 fantasy points)
Gerrard 34 goals in PL (596 fantasy points)

Would they naturally not appear more bunched together due to the fact that Gerrard played nearly 20% less football that Lampard and only scored 5% less points.

It's obviously a difficult choice but I think Gerrard makes slightly more sense at the moment. For the moment, the only real reason that I am considering choosing Lampard over Gerrard is down to the fact that I have Torres and would prefer to spread the risk a bit between the top clubs.

jamesozzie

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Would they naturally not appear more bunched together due to the fact that Gerrard played nearly 20% less football that Lampard and only scored 5% less points.

It's obviously a difficult choice but I think Gerrard makes slightly more sense at the moment. For the moment, the only real reason that I am considering choosing Lampard over Gerrard is down to the fact that I have Torres and would prefer to spread the risk a bit between the top clubs.

Thats not true - as another user posted Lampard was injured for long periods in the 07/08 season. I dont know where you getting your facts with Gerrard having played less than 20% more football. Do a wiki on both players and you will see that in the past seasons.....
Gerrard - 100 games
Lampard - 98 games

Both players are as good as each other if u ask me! I tend to favour Gerrard this season just because he'l be playing more up front

everdead.ie

GIVEN
Hangeland figueroa assou-ekotto Distin

Ireland(C) Young Modric Arteta

Davies Defoe

SUBS: Schwarzer, warnock, pienaar, carew

jesus_thats_gre

jamesozzie wrote: »

Thats not true - as another user posted Lampard was injured for long periods in the 07/08 season. I dont know where you getting your facts with Gerrard having played less than 20% more football. Do a wiki on both players and you will see that in the past seasons.....
Gerrard - 100 games
Lampard - 98 games

Both players are as good as each other if u ask me! I tend to favour Gerrard this season just because he'l be playing more up front

What? I think you have misunderstood something. I wasn't talking about the last 3 seasons. I was talking about the amount of minutes player last season. Go up a few posts and you should be able to clear it up.

FutureGuy

Axwell wrote: »

Future Guy im gunning for you!!

Not with that team, you're not!!! *

*OK maybe you are, but I'll still thump you with my superior intellect.

corban

---

Sorensen

---

---Evra---Cahill----Zhirkov

Barry--Valencia--Gerrard--Taylor

--Campbell--EbanksBlake--Torres

subs: hart, hughes, anderdson, ridgewell


will propably swap out anderson and valencia after week 2 for jimenez and arteta



what ye reckon? trying to take week 2 into consideration

Seaneh

changed my team... again...

1: Given

2: Ashely Cole
3: Evra
4: Bridge

5: Ireland
6 Ashley Young
7: Cattermole
8: Fletcher
9: Arshavin

10: Keane
11: Agbonlahor

Subs:
GK: Sorensen
DF: Corluka
DF: Bramble
FW: Doyle.


now before anybody goes crazy at the bramble inclusion. his points scored for money paid ratio is in the top 3, so if he has in any way as good a season as last year he will do well, Corluka is a lot cheaper than lescott and i bumped bridge who will play every game, this lets me add Arshavin to my midfeild AND make him captain, which is always nice.

I'm thinking of dropping either Keane or Gabby for a player valued around 6 and upgrade a midfeilder.

what ya think lads?

jesus_thats_gre

I like the idea of picking 3 wingbacks.. Makes quite a lot of sense.

I wouldn't be making any excuses for picking Bramble either tbh.

Not quite sure what Cattermole or Fletcher would offer in terms of points though.

Morzadec

Seaneh wrote: »

I'm thinking of dropping either Keane or Gabby for a player valued around 6 and upgrade a midfeilder.

what ya think lads?

Personally I would yeah. Gaby out for Beattie or something like that and use the extra 2.5 elsewhere imo (perhaps Cattermole out Lennon/Modric in?).

Seaneh

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I like the idea of picking 3 wingbacks.. Makes quite a lot of sense.

I wouldn't be making any excuses for picking Bramble either tbh.

Not quite sure what Cattermole or Fletcher would offer in terms of points though.

Yeah, thats why im thinking of downgrading the strikers and addding a more creative/goal scoring midfeild player.

Was think that with fletcher playing most games till hargreaves gets back they eh will clock up a good few points?

Also, Cattermole scored 86 last year so at 5 he isnt too bad?

I just swapped Cattermole for Dempsey, Fletcher for Modric and Keane and Gabby for Crouch and Beatie...

So the Team is now

1: Given

2: Ashely Cole
3: Evra
4: Bridge

5: Ireland
6: Ashley Young
7: Dempsey
8: Modric
9: Arshavin

10: Beatie
11: Crouch

Subs:
GK: Sorensen
DF: Corluka
DF: Bramble
FW: Doyle.

Morzadec

What are people making of O'Shea at 5.5? It seems a bargain, but then again can't be guaranteed he would start. United fans especially, what are your opinions? surely JOS is number one right-back at the moment and therefore 5.5 is a great price?

Daemos

My temporary LFCXTRM team at the moment, which wil surely change before the start of the season:

1: Reina
2: Neville
3: O'Shea
4: Terry
5: Brown
6: Richardson
7: Geovanni
8: Kuyt
9: Young A
10: Kanu
11: Torres (C)

12: Jaaskelainen
13: Corluka
14: Utaka
15: Johnson A

Seaneh

No offence but that has to be the weakest side I've seen so far...

shiibata

Picked the following for now;

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sorenson

---

Hangelaad ----

---

o shea ----

---

a. cole

---

lampard----carrick----dempsey----kuyt

---

s. reid --

---

owen

---

drogba

---

subs; schwarzer, murphy(sun/hull), zayette, dawson

Axwell

Wouldnt bet on 2 of your Man Utd players starting many games (O' Shea and Owen)

Daemos

Seaneh wrote: »

No offence but that has to be the weakest side I've seen so far...

Now you see why I called it a "temporary" side that will "surely change" before the season starts

shiibata

Axwell wrote: »

Wouldnt bet on 2 of your Man Utd players starting many games (O' Shea and Owen)

I know its dodgy but thinking he will give Owen a shout there as its birmingham and burnley up 1st for them. Will have good idea, closer the time

Im_No_Superman

No Superman Utd provisional team:

Given

Evra
Hangeland
Baines

Lampard
Dempsey
Pienaar
Arshavin

Beattie
Rooney
Doyle

Subs:
Hart
Ridgewell
Shawcross
McSheffrey

eirebhoy

Modric or Essien? atm I have Modric I'm still 50/50.