Boards.ie Fantasy Football 2009/2010 (MOD NOTE - POST #2151)

eirebhoy

LZ5by5 wrote: »

What are the thoughts on Glen Johnson at 7.5? I brought him in because I thought he might get a good few clean sheets as well as assists, but it's still awfully expensive for a defender.

I'd say he's worth it. Playing on the same side as Kuyt he'll be given plenty of freedom to attack. He should be favourite to head the assist charts for defenders and Liverpool are guaranteed plenty of clean sheets.

Handsome Bob

eirebhoy wrote: »

I'd say he's worth it. Playing on the same side as Kuyt he'll be given plenty of freedom to attack. He should be favourite to head the assist charts for defenders and Liverpool are guaranteed plenty of clean sheets.

Thanks man. I was just asking because I'm worried that my defence is a bit imbalanced;

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Given

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--Johnson---Hangeland--Samba---Tomkins

I was thinking about taking Johnson and Samba out, I would then be able to afford to bring in Skrtel and Evra.

marbar

didnt join this league last year. how many were in it?

i have to say that i'm well pissed off with the new rules. the captain changing if he doesnt play will reward people who are forgetful/lazy imo

jesus_thats_gre

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Thanks man. I was just asking because I'm worried that my defence is a bit imbalanced;

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Given

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--Johnson---Hangeland--Samba---Tomkins

I was thinking about taking Johnson and Samba out, I would then be able to afford to bring in Skrtel and Evra.

I had Johnson myself but decided to change him to Evra and bring in Skrtel as well..

MementoMori

Johnson got 3 goals and 4 assists last season in what was a poor side last season.

If Arbeloa does move I can see him being an ever-present for Liverpool.

On the basis of his impressive 45-min performance in the St Gallen game, I could also see him surpassing the number of assists and maybe even goals, as he is well able to get forward for assists and he has a decent shot on him.

As part of the Liverpool defence you would expect him to pick up quite a few clean sheet points.

A small worry is the number of cards he picked up last season - 8 yellows and 1 red. However I wonder if this might not be partially due to Portsmouth being under defensive pressure in a lot of games. He doesn't strike me as an especially dirty player and I would be surprised if he racks up anythig similar this year. He picked up only 7 yellows total, in the previous two seasons for Portsmouth.

While he is pricey he's definately worthy of consideration imo.

JPA

I wouldn't be sure if Johnson will be quite as attack minded this year as he was last year. But playing a better team he'll most likely get the same amount of assists and more clean sheets.
But is he really worth 1.0 more than say, Evra? Judgement call I suppose.

JPA

marbar wrote: »

didnt join this league last year. how many were in it?

i have to say that i'm well pissed off with the new rules. the captain changing if he doesnt play will reward people who are forgetful/lazy imo

I thought everyone would be delighted with that rule change.

marbar

JPA wrote: »

I thought everyone would be delighted with that rule change.

nah. the amount of times i've heard people say "bollox i gotgot to change my team/captain"
now what will happen is the extra transfer that carries for one week will be used by everyone in the double week so you wont get rewarded for planning.
then if you dont change captain or just get it wrong, it'll default to your most expensive/highest scoring player

this will mean pot luck and lazyness will get rewarded and planning something well in advance wont

really not happy about it

JPA

Just sometimes there can be a surprise selection with your captain left on the bench.

Handsome Bob

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I had Johnson myself but decided to change him to Evra and bring in Skrtel as well..

It would be a much easier decision if I had any idea of how Rafa is going to pick his central pairing.:pac:

MementoMori wrote: »

Johnson got 3 goals and 4 assists last season in what was a poor side last season.

If Arbeloa does move I can see him being an ever-present for Liverpool.

On the basis of his impressive 45-min performance in the St Gallen game, I could also see him surpassing the number of assists and maybe even goals, as he is well able to get forward for assists and he has a decent shot on him.

As part of the Liverpool defence you would expect him to pick up quite a few clean sheet points.

While he is pricey he's definately worthy of consideration imo.

All true and you have put my mind more at ease about Johnson so thank you!

JPA wrote: »

I wouldn't be sure if Johnson will be quite as attack minded this year as he was last year. But playing a better team he'll most likely get the same amount of assists and more clean sheets.
But is he really worth 1.0 more than say, Evra? Judgement call I suppose.

I think Rafa signed him for a reason and that reason is his ability to go forward. Rafa won't try to stifle the best thing about Johnson, at least I hope not!:pac:

JPA

I think Rafa signed him for a reason and that reason is his ability to go forward. Rafa won't try to stifle the best thing about Johnson, at least I hope not!

Just a slight risk he might be held back a little bit. I'm just saying that because at Portsmouth he became one of their main attacking threats because Pompey were pretty weak, so he might not NEED to attack as much at Liverpool.

MementoMori

JPA wrote: »

I wouldn't be sure if Johnson will be quite as attack minded this year as he was last year. But playing a better team he'll most likely get the same amount of assists and more clean sheets.
But is he really worth 1.0 more than say, Evra? Judgement call I suppose.

I woudl be surprised if he wasn't more attacking minding.

I think Liverpool's 4-2-3-1 will suit Johnson very well especially with Kuyt in front of him and with Masch providing defensive cover for when he makes bursts forward. A number of teams (especially in the bottom half of the table)will come to Anfield and sit deep defensively getting most players behind the ball and force Liverpool to break them down. In a lot of games like this Johnson will have great opportunities to get forward and contribute on the offensive side.

Re Liverpool's CB situation I think it's impossible to call between Skrtel and Agger in terms of who will partner Carra. Really cant see Carra being dislodged unless through injury. While Carra will pick up clean sheet points, I really cant see him picking up any assist/goal points (He's scored more OGs in his Liverpool career than goals and I don't think this is likely to dramatically change )

In terms of who is going to partner Carra, I would say Agger is probably a better fit in terms of as a compliment to Carra -what he offers bringing the ball out of defence, being a natural left-footer, whereas as Skrtel is more of a physical type battler akin to Carra. However Agger didnt travel to Switzerland due to problems with his back and his injury record isnt the best.
I don't think this means Skrtel can be certain of getting the CB spot even to start the season as there is still a lot of pre-season to go.

In general I think it is impossible/lunacy to pick a final team until a lot is clarififed in terms what transfers will be completed/potential injuries in pre-season/ who will be first choice starters. You can get a rough idea but I think most teams won't be properly sorted until a few days before the season starts.

eirebhoy

Arbeloa got 5 assists last season. You'd expect Johnson to be getting at least that.

JPA

eirebhoy wrote: »

Arbeloa got 5 assists last season. You'd expect Johnson to be getting at least that.

Aurelio got 5, Arbeloa got 2.

Eire-Dearg

Aurelio, an injury prone but decent points scorer is 7.0. Evra is 6.5...

Even Degen, behind Johnson and Arbeloa, is 5.5.

Morzadec

I wouldn't worry about Johnson being held back. Anyone who watches Liverpool and knows Rafa's style knows that he likes the main width of the team to come from the full backs and encourages them to get forward. They play more like wing backs than fullbacks in many ways, and play further uo the field than Masch and Alonso.

7.5 is alot for a defender and I don't have Johnson in. But I do want him in I think he could be a big big scorer. I'm considering bringing him after gamweek one or 2, for the moment I can't quite squeeze him in.

RE: Agger/Skrtel, at the moment you have to think Rafa will stick what he went for last year. Leave Agger out for the time being in my opinion.

Morzadec

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Aurelio, an injury prone but decent points scorer is 7.0. Evra is 6.5...

Even Degen, behind Johnson and Arbeloa, is 5.5.

IMO Evra is an absolute bargain and you'd be a fool to leave him out at that price. If he stays fit he'll be a consistent points scorer all season.

MementoMori

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Aurelio, an injury prone but decent points scorer is 7.0. Evra is 6.5...

Even Degen, behind Johnson and Arbeloa, is 5.5.

Don't think Aurelio is great value - injured at the moment (again) and I wouldnt be surprised to see Insua as first choice for large parts of the season. Also Dossena is still on the books and talk of him going back to Italy have died down a bit the last while. Too much uncertainty about who will be playing from week to week at LB spot between Aurelio and Insua when both fit as Rafa could rotate here a fair bit, especially for weeks when there are European games, even without taking Dossena into account.

At the moment Degen is battling for the 3rd choice LB spot with Darby imo.
If Arbeloa does leave (which is up in the air) I could well see Darby as 2nd choice LB even though he isnt listed on the site yet. If Johnson does pick up an injury (Fowler forbid) and Arbeloa has left, Darby could possily be a very good short-term option.

eirebhoy

JPA wrote: »

Aurelio got 5, Arbeloa got 2.

I always mix up those names for some reason.

Mr. Guappa

marbar wrote: »

nah. the amount of times i've heard people say "bollox i gotgot to change my team/captain"
now what will happen is the extra transfer that carries for one week will be used by everyone in the double week so you wont get rewarded for planning.
then if you dont change captain or just get it wrong, it'll default to your most expensive/highest scoring player

this will mean pot luck and lazyness will get rewarded and planning something well in advance wont

really not happy about it

It would be much better if you could pick a vice captain who would step in when your captain doesnt play.. at least it would take away some of the luck that will be involved this year.

flahavaj

eirebhoy wrote: »

I always mix up those names for some reason.

Haha, I still can't tell which is which.

jesus_thats_gre

flahavaj wrote: »

Haha, I still can't tell which is which.

One is a left back that is Brazilian and has light coloured hair. The other is is Spanish, plays in right back and has jet black hair.

Hope that helps.

TheChrisD

Wow, some of the good guys last year really did become super-expensive.

Time to do some nit-picking of the new blood methinks.

EDIT: Second draft. Still wondering what else to change

1) Schwarzer

2) Hangeland
3) Figueroa
4) Evra

5) Kuyt
6) Gerrard (c)
7) Ireland
8) Arshavin
9) Neville

10) Macheda
11) Zamora

Subs:
- Sorenson
- Doyle
- Faye Ab
- Johnson (the Birmingham one)

I think I may have too much money tied up in midfield

Morzadec

TheChrisD wrote: »

Wow, some of the good guys last year really did become super-expensive.

Time to do some nit-picking of the new blood methinks.

EDIT: Second draft. Still wondering what else to change

1) Schwarzer

2) Hangeland
3) Figueroa
4) Evra

5) Kuyt
6) Gerrard (c)
7) Ireland
8) Arshavin
9) Neville

10) Macheda
11) Zamora

Subs:
- Sorenson
- Doyle
- Faye Ab
- Johnson (the Birmingham one)

I think I may have too much money tied up in midfield

A United fan could probably make a more educated guess than me on this, but I can't see Macheda starting more than about 5 games next year. Replace him with someone who will at least get you 2 points for playing. There are some good cheap options there, Beattie is only 6.0. He'll play 90 minutes and will be Stoke's main goal threat (other than Delap that is!)

As for your midfield, yes I think you've probably tied up too much money. Maybe think about losing Kuyt, or Ireland. There are some decent cheap options in midfield as well, someone like Mark Noble (6.0) could be a good points scorer. Neville is a poor choice as well IMO (I know he's only 5, but he's going to pick up very few points, there are better value players around his price).

Average-Ro

My team at the moment. I've been changing constantly so any advice would be appreciated.

FAKE MADRID

Schwarzer

Evra Warnock Baines Hangeland


Gerrard Arshavin N'Zogbia Modric Young A


Johnson A

SUBS:

Hart, O'Shea, Doyle, Cresswell (Stoke)

Two things going through my mind at the moment are

1) Will Cresswell actually play for Stoke at all? Most likely not.

2) I have 3 Fulham players, that seems like a bit of a gamble...

Morzadec

Average-Ro wrote: »

My team at the moment. I've been changing constantly so any advice would be appreciated.

FAKE MADRID

Schwarzer

Evra Warnock Baines Hangeland


Gerrard Arshavin N'Zogbia Modric Young A


Johnson A

SUBS:

Hart, O'Shea, Doyle, Cresswell (Stoke)

Two things going through my mind at the moment are

1) Will Cresswell actually play for Stoke at all? Most likely not.

2) I have 3 Fulham players, that seems like a bit of a gamble...

Seems like a solid enough team IMO.

1) Cresswell probably won't play much but you can't go any cheaper than 4.5 on a striker. You may just have to leave him in, but considering he's your last sub this may not be a huge problem.

2) Just keep in mind that Fulham will be in the Europa League this year. But if Hangelaand and Shwazer perform as they did last year they are very good value. Bit of an 'if' though.

Average-Ro

Yeah, Cresswell I'm not too worried about, it's the three Fulham players that I'm worried about, and I forgot that they're in Europe as well. Him, might do a bit of re-thinking...

paul150

1 GK Robinson
2 DF hangeland
3 DF woodgate
4 DF shawcross
5 DF Bramble
6 MF gerrard
7 MF Lampard
8 MF arshavin
9 MF Barry
10 MF Nzogbia
11 ST agbonlahor

Midfield heavy i think lol so prob change it a fair bit before season starts

Xavi6

Revised team -

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Jaaskelainen

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Clichy

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Skrtel

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Woodgate

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Davies

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Evra

Noble

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Gerrard

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Lampard

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Pienaar

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Tevez

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Subs: Hart, Zamora, Doyle, Fahey

Plus 0.5 million left over to play about with.

Vampireskiss

I have changed my team around A bit. what is yer opinions of this one

sorenson

zhirkov
vidic
carragher
corluka

kuyt
ireland
cahill
arteta
young


cole

ironictoaster

Can anyone join this?, I never done a fantasy football before, really wanna give it a bash though..Also, is it n00b-friendly?

EDIT: Oops, should have read the first post

EDIT2: Holy crap, the amount of people in this league!!

hughes2558

My team
Cech
A.Cole Carragher Ferdinand Evra
S.Pienaar A.Young M.Petrov
Torres Van Persie Doyle

Subs
Hart Muamba Foley Mcsheffrey

jesus_thats_gre

Vampireskiss wrote: »

I have changed my team around A bit. what is yer opinions of this one

sorenson

zhirkov
vidic
carragher
corluka

kuyt
ireland
cahill
arteta
young


cole

That is a good team, very good in fact!! Replace Zhirkov with a cheaper full back from the big 4 and you could maybe upgrade Cole or Sorenson.

Handsome Bob

How it's looking right now;

Given.

Johnson, Tomkins, Hangeland, Samba.

Kightley, Gerrard, Arshavin, Behrami.

Torres, Tevez.

Subs: Kirkland, A.Ferdinand, Rodwell, Jerome.

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Still not happy.

Morzadec

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

That is a good team, very good in fact!! Replace Zhirkov with a cheaper full back from the big 4 and you could maybe upgrade Cole or Sorenson.

Cole's a great player and at 7.0 is fantastic value IMO.
I think he will outscore most if not all of the 7.0-9.0 ranged players.

Morzadec

hughes2558 wrote: »

My team
Cech
A.Cole Carragher Ferdinand Evra
S.Pienaar A.Young M.Petrov
Torres Van Persie Doyle

Subs
Hart Muamba Foley Mcsheffrey

Good team, but maybe think about giving petrov a miss. can see him warming the bench a lot this year

jesus_thats_gre

Morzadec wrote: »

Cole's a great player and at 7.0 is fantastic value IMO.
I think he will outscore most if not all of the 7.0-9.0 ranged players.

hmmm fair point I guess..

T-b0n3

First time making a FF team, found it quite hard!

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Given

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A. Cole---Vidic---Evra

--A. Young--Modric--Cahill--N'Zogbia

----Gabby----Rooney(C)----Cole


What you think?

Mr. Incognito

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Schwarzer

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Evra

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Cole A----Carragher---Zhirkov

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Hangeland

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Gerrard

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Lampard(C)

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Cole

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Beattie

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Doyle


Opinions?

Morzadec

T-b0n3 wrote: »

First time making a FF team, found it quite hard!

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Given

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A. Cole---Vidic---Evra

--A. Young--Modric--Cahill--N'Zogbia

----Gabby----Rooney(C)----Cole


What you think?

For a first time team not bad at all imo. You seem to have the fundamentals of the game in place anyway and no glaring mistakes. Only thing I would say is that I wouldn't like to be going in with no Gerrard AND no Lampard as they are consistent points machines and guaranteed points. They are that little bit extra though and itd force you to weaken in other areas. Then again, you could argue that Rooney will be the new Ronaldo this season and he could end up outscoring Lamps and Gerrard.

Think I'm properly addicted to ff, really can't resist giving my 2 cents on everyone's teams, apologies for hogging this thread!

Mmcd

Just finished I think. What do ye think?

1: Jaaskelainen

2: Lescott ~ 3: Skrtel ~ 4: Evra ~ 5: Figueroa

6: Gerrard (C) ~ 7: Ireland ~ 8: Pienaar ~ 9: Valencia

10: Rooney ~ 11: Beattie

12: Sorenson
13: Zayatte
14: Neville
15: Folan

Morzadec

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

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Schwarzer

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Evra

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Cole A----Carragher---Zhirkov

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Hangeland

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Gerrard

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Lampard(C)

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Cole

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Beattie

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Doyle


Opinions?

I like your team. Not a million miles away from mine. Perhaps Ebanks-Blake intead of Doyle? Can see him scoring more goals. Although that might just be a matter of opinion.

T-b0n3

Morzadec wrote: »

For a first time team not bad at all imo. You seem to have the fundamentals of the game in place anyway and no glaring mistakes. Only thing I would say is that I wouldn't like to be going in with no Gerrard AND no Lampard as they are consistent points machines and guaranteed points. They are that little bit extra though and itd force you to weaken in other areas. Then again, you could argue that Rooney will be the new Ronaldo this season and he could end up outscoring Lamps and Gerrard.

Think I'm properly addicted to ff, really can't resist giving my 2 cents on everyone's teams, apologies for hogging this thread!

thanks for the advice. Wanted Gerard in there but just counldn't really mange to fin him in! I'm sure I'll make more changes before then season starts. The only thing is I basically bought the cheapest subs possible! Which could cuase a problem I'm guessing ha!
Subs: Sorensen, McShane, Gunter, Mendy.

I know Gunter is not guaranteed his game at all but like I said I'll probably change it up before season starts and I wanted cheap subs

JPA

T-b0n3 wrote: »

I know Gunter is not guaranteed his game at all but like I said I'll probably change it up before season starts and I wanted cheap subs

Gunter is actually being sold to Forest, so zero chance of any points!

T-b0n3

JPA wrote: »

Gunter is actually being sold to Forest, so zero chance of any points!

Oh fair enough thanks for the heads up, I'll buy some other random player that I'm hopefully never going to actually have to play!

Xavi6

Bah, I have to stop logging onto that feckin site. Changed my team AGAIN, though this time I'm pretty happy.

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Jaaskelainen

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Yobo

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Skrtel

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Woodgate

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Onouha

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Evra

Noble

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Gerrard

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Lampard

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N'Zogbia

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Rooney

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Subs: Hart, Mascherano, McFadden, Doyle

I think a solid backline plus the trio of Rooney, Lamps and Stevie G is a decent start.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

1: Schwarzer

2: Baines
3: Evra
4: Figueroa
5: Hughes

6: Arshavin
7: Alonso
8: Modric
9: Rosicky

10: Torres(C)
11: Berbatov

Subs: Sorensen, Doyle, Muamba, Zayette

I know that Alonso could be going and Rosicky is a bit of a gamble with his injury proneness but I'm happy enough for now

bUILDERtHEbOB

What I have at the moment is:
GK: VDS
DEF: Evra, Cole, Tomkins, Bouma
MID: Lampard, Malbranque, Dempsey
FOR: Rooney, Anelka, Ebanks -Blake

SUBS: Sorensen, Woodgate, Larsson, Marney.

It will probably definitely change though.

Eire-Dearg

Very pleased with my team

Given
Evra Bridge Agger
Petrov Gerrard Arteta Modric
Torres SEB Cole

Thoughts on on going down a peg with SEB, to improve my backline? I've Cahill on the bench, thought if I had Skrtel instead of Agger, bought a **** striker I could go for a decent 442 formation.

D'Agger

Think this is fairly decent:

1: Cech

2: Skrtel
3: Hangeland
4: Woodgate

5: Noble
6: Danny Murphy
7: Gerrard(C)
8: Anderson

9: Van Persie
10: Torres
11: C.Cole

Van Persie, Gerrard, Noble and Danny Murphy are all the usual penalty takers for their clubs so think that'll help too hopefully