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Interview (Part 1) with FIFA player Classic
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08-07-2009 12:52am#1
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Y2J_MUFC wrote:Thats even worse. He's not telling you how to play the game and win with skill if what you say is true. He's telling you bugs and glitches to exploit. And trying to make money from it?
I'm not talking about custom formations with 8 defenders, I'm talking about slight tweaks. I like to give certain players certain instructions. But instead of coming up with a rule such as, you can not have 6 or more defenders. They have a blanket ban on custom formations even though many teams do not have a standard formation when the games comes out of the box.
Paying for "lessons" will only get you so far. I still think its pathetic if you have to pay for lessons on how to play a video-game. Its one thing knowing about things, its another thing actually doing it. Why not learn it by practicing yourself.
While I was 1st/2nd in the board premiership for the first couple of seasons, I had more than one or two lads asking me for help which is grand.. but why would you ask for money? I don't know who is worse, him for asking for money, or the lads who pay.
I didn't agree with Classic, fundamentally, that custom formations should be banned. If you can't punish a strategy, that doesn't mean the strategy should be banned; you just have to figure out how to punish it. But, there is a point where the game would be better to play competitively with some restrictions than without, and I think that is where PES has found the right balance (just a number of reasons why it's still a better game) in restricting in-game the amount of defenders and attacks but giving the player more than enough freedom to work within that structure of restrictions.
And there exists superior moves you will have difficulty finding on your own by playing the game. You may find them, accidentally, through hours and hours of play, but, will you even recognize its usefulness or potential at high-level competition play? A top player is programmed and experienced to root out the high-level moves in a game and understand what is efficient and what isn't. No player becomes great on his own: he feeds off of the competitive community within the game who together have built-up knowledge of said game.
From experience, I know of one trick in PES that even none of the top players German or French players know about (they didn't seem to use it, anyway), or anyone else that I've come across who has played the game for years and years. It's amusing, though, because PES was criticized for the exclusion of this trick. It was removed for PES 2009. Paypal me 50 euro to find out.
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NeoKubrick wrote: »I think that is where PES has found the right balance (just a number of reasons why it's still a better game)
I stopped reading after this sentence.....0 -
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Teams after all, play with 5 in real life, but never with 6.
Thats so untrue its criminal. San marino, for example play with 1 keeper, 9 defenders and 1 forward.
Any time a lower league outfit gets drawn against one of the big 4 in the FA cup, they do the same thing. Two banks of four outside their own box. On the team sheet they may be classed as "midfielders" but they are in actuality, defenders. An orange doesnt become an apple just because thats what the manager calls him.
But you are right about everything else. I would say though, it's a bit off to criticise somebody for how they choose to spend their money. To me, its a game. But that doesn't mean other people view it the same way. I think that people who spend 100 grand on a wedding for a 1 day party are certifiable and crazy... but thats their choice.0 -
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Thats so untrue its criminal. San marino, for example play with 1 keeper, 9 defenders and 1 forward.
Any time a lower league outfit gets drawn against one of the big 4 in the FA cup, they do the same thing. Two banks of four outside their own box. On the team sheet they may be classed as "midfielders" but they are in actuality, defenders. An orange doesnt become an apple just because thats what the manager calls him.
So do you think its realistic to have say, Fiorentina against, oh well, for arguments sake say, Bayern Munich (
) and Fiorentina have 8 defenders (apples, oranges, defenders, midfielders, whatever). That's the point I have making. And even, if they concede a goal, still persist with the tactic, because its the cheapest way to get a goal? San Marino aren't in the game, same as the local pub team, so their tactics are both completely irrelevant in terms of FIFA
Thirdly, you took my orange/apple analogy! :eek:But you are right about everything else. I would say though, it's a bit off to criticise somebody for how they choose to spend their money. To me, its a game. But that doesn't mean other people view it the same way. I think that people who spend 100 grand on a wedding for a 1 day party are certifiable and crazy... but thats their choice.
Traditionally weddings aren't free, but you know, if you ask any normal person how to do something on FIFA, its unlikely to cost you anything, unless that person is bit of a cheapskate and after a quick buck!0 -
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So do you think its realistic to have say, Fiorentina against, oh well, for arguments sake say, Bayern Munich ( ) and Fiorentina have 8 defenders
Yes. I do.
It happens all the time in football. and thats what I base every option in Fifa on.
If its available in the real game, then it belongs in the simulation. Plenty of teams put 10 men behind the ball in real footy.....Greece won the Euro's doing just that. Its a valid strategy and the fact that its "banned" in these so called "pro" tourneys is ridiculous.
And all this apples and oranges talk makes me want one. 0 -
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So do you think its realistic to have say, Fiorentina against, oh well, for arguments sake say, Bayern Munich ( ) and Fiorentina have 8 defenders (apples, oranges, defenders, midfielders, whatever). That's the point I have making. And even, if they concede a goal, still persist with the tactic, because its the cheapest way to get a goal!
Eh is that a dig at me there? I play 5 at the back and some of my defenders have been set to have no defensive duties. And secondly how is it a cheap way to get a goal?
A cheap way to get a goal is from a halfway line shot or those corner kick ones.0
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