http://www.birthsdeathsmarriages.ie- rip-off

Sleipnir

http://www.birthsdeathsmarriages.ie/
https://www.bdmonline.ie
https://www.groireland.ie

Looking to get a couple of birth certs ordered so googled "births, deaths and marriages" and first up was http://www.birthsdeathsmarriages.ie/.

Long Form Birth Certificate/Death Cert/Marriage Cert/Adoption Cert: €30.00 Express within Ireland only €40.50.

Cost for a birth cert direct from The General Registrar's Office groireland.ie is €10 and you can fax your request.

I presume that, as bdmonline.ie is a corporate body it must apply to The General Registrar's office for birth certs just like anyone else
At a minimum of triple the price for the same product, I certainly wouldn't pay for it.

domain: bdmonline.ie
descr: BIRTHS DEATHS MARRIAGES LIMITED
descr: Body Corporate (Ltd,PLC,Company)
descr: Discretionary Name
admin-c: AAV206-IEDR
tech-c: HH36-IEDR
renewal: 28-July-2010
status: Active
nserver: ns1.hosting365.ie
nserver: ns2.hosting365.ie
source: IEDR
person: Jacquie O Sullivan
nic-hdl: AAV206-IEDR
source: IEDR
person: Hosting 365 Hostmaster
nic-hdl: HH36-IEDR
source: IEDR

domain: groireland.ie
descr: Department of Social & Family Affairs
descr: Statutory Body
descr: Discretionary Name
admin-c: TOL4-IEDR
tech-c: TOL4-IEDR
renewal: 14-June-2009
status: Active
nserver: AUTH01.NS.ESAT.NET
nserver: SEC01.NS.ESAT.NET
source: IEDR

person: Paul Hannon
nic-hdl: TOL4-IEDR
source: IEDR

Our man in Havana

I assume they have to send people to queue up like everyone else for certificates. That would be where the cost is involved. What people don't realise is that certs for all over the country can be obtained form your local office. No need to go to Dublin anymore if you live in Cork for example.

Sleipnir

Well, the General Registrar's website has a link to an application form which says you can fax the request to them in Roscommon and pay by credit card. So presumably they have the facility to post it too.
Otherwise you'd have to head to Roscommon after faxing and paying by CC!

Our man in Havana

Indeed. So their service is simply reselling the certs. I see what you mean.

tweety76

Sleipnir wrote: »

Well, the General Registrar's website has a link to an application form which says you can fax the request to them in Roscommon and pay by credit card. So presumably they have the facility to post it too.
Otherwise you'd have to head to Roscommon after faxing and paying by CC!

Used this service 2 weeks ago(General Registrar) got the requested cert out within 1 week, can't understand why it would pay to go with the other crowd

Genealogy_Guy

tweety76 wrote: »

Used this service 2 weeks ago(General Registrar) got the requested cert out within 1 week, can't understand why it would pay to go with the other crowd

Until the General Register Office sets up an official online ordering service (not in my lifetime, bah, humbug), there will always be private companies/individuals providing an intermediary service. These companies have setup their own online ordering services for the supply of certificates. If you trust them with your credit card details, they will get and post to you the official certificate a few days later. Their prices vary, none as cheap as €10 though.

www.birthsdeathsmarriages.ie €30.00 - Ireland, €40.50 - Worldwide

www.Irish-Certificates.ie €25.00 - Ireland and Worldwide

www.irishcerts.ie €30.00 - Ireland, €40.00 Worldwide

www.recordsireland.ie €40.00 - Ireland and Worldwide

If you g00gle for "irish birth certificates", you will see companies based in the UK are even touting this service.:eek:

Regards
Genealogy Guy

mcaul

Can't see any rip off here.

Basically you are being charged €15 / €20 for a service in addition to the cost of the cert.


If the cert cost €100, the cost of these sites would probably be €115 / €120 and then you would probably say 15%-20% is a small fee.

If it takes the hassle out of something, then some people are willing to pay for the service. If you are willing to do a small amount of work you can save - but its the same as most service based professions.

Due to my hating Ironing, I have my shirts Ironed @ €1 each - if I spent 1 hour at it, I could save €30. - But I hate it so much, I see value in having someone else do it for me.

Morgans

Id agree with a lot of what Mccaul says in that its not technically a rip off, but it does seem to work on ignorance of those who come across the site. People have an idea how much ironing a shirt costs and you decide to pay for the service. You have made the decision of whether the service is worth it. Im not sure how people understand how much the documents actually costs and after realising the costs of doing it themselves they actively choose to use the service for an added 300%. Looks like the companies are exploiting an ignorance loophole.

Miffy1

The problem I have with these people is that they charge before ascertaining whether or not they can provide the service they offer, then refuse to refund.

irishgeo

Miffy1 wrote: »

The problem I have with these people is that they charge before ascertaining whether or not they can provide the service they offer, then refuse to refund.

Phone up your credit card company, saying you didnt get the goods/service you ordered and request a chargeback, enough complaints and the credit card companies will look into it.

keithclancy