Imagine if we all spoke Irish

Dinter

markopantelic wrote: »

In Dublin after the Vikings established it the language spoken would have resembled the language of Iceland(apparently)

Umm???

Well Iceland was settled by the Vikings too. Still I'm not sure if a settlement subsumed and expanded by a foreign people with their own culture and language is really a good example.

Historically the Vikings were relaxed about imposing their culture on others. One only has to look at the Isle of Man where Manx thrived throughout the Viking dominion.

Latchy

Learning to sing the Irish Anthem ' as Gaeilge ' would be a great start for 'some ' of the irish soccer team but then not everybody puts great importance on it .

gaeilge-abú

if people in this country like to call themselves irish, they should at least be able to speak the language!

S'í Gaeilge mo chéad teanga!:D

Baile an Locha

I was in the "conradh na gaeilge" shop today buying a few books and i was talking to the attendent and she was saying that the place was unbelievably quiet. She seemed surprised that i could confidently hold a conversation with her, but that was the only Gaeilge i heard in dublin all day 'cept from my own group!! I heard about 12 different languages walking around today alas irish wasnt one of them,. That was a bit depressing,as is the downfall of foinse, but hopefully the future is brighter for irish. My generation sees to have a better interest and respect for irish as a language.

thelordofcheese

gaeilge-abú wrote: »

if people in this country like to call themselves irish, they should at least be able to speak the language!

S'í Gaeilge mo chéad teanga!:D

How about no, and to hell with your arbitrary rules on what makes a person Irish.

If i wanted to use a dead language, it'd be Sanskrit. Bitches love sanskrit

soccymonster

gaeilge-abú wrote: »

if people in this country like to call themselves irish, they should at least be able to speak the language!

S'í Gaeilge mo chéad teanga!:D

you just said that irish is your first language. Yes, Im amazing. I should be a human translator or somethin.:D

Wibbs

gaeilge-abú wrote: »

if people in this country like to call themselves irish, they should at least be able to speak the language!

Well I can trace my family lineage back to the 16th century in this fair isle and by tradition way before that(by certain genetic markers too). Can you?

Various members of my lot fought for this country while others were hiding behind their women's skirts, up to and including the oft quoted chapters in the founding of this same fair isle(You know the one everyone and his dog claims? "My granny rode DeValera and Collins, while smuggling 303 springfields up her bits" Yea right, judging by that the British army would have been facing an army of 100,000 grannies and granddads all fighting for Ireland. Oh..... oops....except they weren't).

My lot haven't been native speakers in near 200 years and yet you would appear to claim me and others like me, who have and are contributing to the culture of this nation as not worthy to call themselves Irish? As "póg mo thoin" is the only curse I know in Irish, I feel somewhat trite in using it, so instead I would say to that idea, No. Simply no. Being Irish is more than a language and it's more than empty rhetoric and it's more than some vague attachment to whatever passes at the time for "Irishness", though all three are oft confused as such.

I actually hope Irish thrives, I hope it becomes more than a hobby and something to throw up the flagpole of whatever daft notion grips some. I hope it becomes natural and boring and everyday and then it will truly represent what it is as a part of this culture. Until if and when that happens, then don't use it as a very weak stick to attack any Irish man or woman's right or innate feeling to declare themselves as part of this culture.

End rant.

Micilin Muc

jill_valentine wrote: »

I think it would be infinitely harder to chat somebody up.

Irish is not the language of love.

Oh yes it is! The names of body parts are far more poetic than the English names!!

jill_valentine

Micilin Muc wrote: »

Oh yes it is! The names of body parts are far more poetic than the English names!!

Alright, gimme your best line. Make me weak i mo ghlúnaibh.

Our accent and mindset would fit our language.

asdasd

please correct me i want to learn from my mistakes

Capital P, needed at the start ( that is standard at the start of sentences). Also you need more punctuation: either two full stops, or a comma and a full stop. The first comma ( or full stop ) should be after the me, the other full stop at the end of the sentence ( after mistakes). Also the i should be capitalised to an I.

I bet you are fluent in Irish, though, and having us on.

Micilin Muc

jill_valentine wrote: »

Alright, gimme your best line. Make me weak i mo ghlúnaibh.

Ba mhaith liom do chíocha a chuimilt go réidh mall agus mo theanga a lí trasna do bhrollaigh, ar nós cleite ag titim síos an duilleog . Tabharfaidh mo slat mór fada pitphléasc duit!

I might regret posting this in the morning!!

Hagar

You had me at "Ba mhaith liom"...

soccymonster

Hagar wrote: »

You had me at "Ba mhaith liom"...

freisin :P

asdasd

pitphléasc

Whassat?

Micilin Muc

asdasd wrote: »

Whassat?

A female orgasm: "Pit" is the Irish for vulva (what an awful word) and "pléasc" is the Irish for explosion ...

marbar

i dont think there's much to seperate us from other english speaking nations if we dont
have some grasp of the language

marbar

thanaig si agus d'ol me a thanaig

(fadas don't work on this...)

Wibbs

Yéá théy dó.

Micilin Muc wrote:

A female orgasm: "Pit" is the Irish for vulva (what an awful word) and "pléasc" is the Irish for explosion ...

Vulva explosion? Fair description in fairness.

Micilin Muc

There's a sex column as Gaeilge in nós* magazine

Vocab is brilliant, very authentic articles too.

jill_valentine

It was a noble effort, but in terms of aural satisfaction, I'm sorry, Irish ranks somewhere near Welsh. It hasn't got a patch on French or Italian.

anonymous_joe

I'd love to know what Irish sounded like if we all spoke it. Because at the end of the day, what we learn isn't really a natural vibrant language.

And if we did speak it, it'd be fine, we'd just be like the Dutch or whatever, we'd have our own language, yeah, but most of the world's TV and films and so on are in English anyway. So we'd all be fluent in both.

Micilin Muc

jill_valentine wrote: »

It was a noble effort, but in terms of aural satisfaction, I'm sorry, Irish ranks somewhere near Welsh. It hasn't got a patch on French or Italian.

It just takes the right speaker! A thick Conamara or Tír Chonaill Gaeltacht accent would sound very sleazy, but for some reason a Corca Dhuibhne accent would do the job!

Precious flower

I think the Irish language is lovely and because we are an island our language is that bit more unique. I would love to be able to speak Irish fluently. Anyway even if we don't all speak fluent Irish we still use some small Irish phrases occasionally.

Has anyone ever used some Irish phrases or just spoke a small bit of Irish around tourists, even though you don't speak fluent Irish?:D - I must admit, I did that a couple of times! Lol!

Baile an Locha

Native speakers from rathcairn have the sexiest voices,

soccymonster

Precious flower wrote: »

I think the Irish language is lovely and because we are an island our language is that bit more unique. I would love to be able to speak Irish fluently. Anyway even if we don't all speak fluent Irish we still use some small Irish phrases occasionally.

Has anyone ever used some Irish phrases or just spoke a small bit of Irish around tourists, even though you don't speak fluent Irish?:D - I must admit, I did that a couple times! Lol!

yea, I do it to piss off americans alot :P

4zn76tysfajdxp

Micilin Muc wrote: »

A thick Conamara or Tír Chonaill Gaeltacht accent would sound very sleazy

Shite

Dionysus

jill_valentine wrote: »

I think it would be infinitely harder to chat somebody up.

Irish is not the language of love.

I trust that's a reflection of your own success, then? Irish rocks! Some of us have successfully chatted up fiery Irish women under the guise of Irish class for many years. Language classes generally are the hottest places around for meeting the coolest Irish women on the planet. If they are at Irish class they have to be well educated and, more importantly, good-hearted. In a world of shallow, superficial types this is refreshing.

If you want to meet great spirited people and even a soul mate, language classes generally are great fun and chatting birds up in the Irish is just the best craic ever. Legend!

conchubhar1

sé sin an fhírinne! ^

i am going to take a leaf out of steve balmers school of repetition to get the point across


Bilingualism, Bilingualism, Bilingualism, Bilingualism ......

Dionysus

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Apart from lots of water.

'Oh the sea oh the sea
is grá geal mo chroí,
long may it reign
between England and me
It's a sure guarantee
that some hour we'll be free
oh thank God we're surrounded by water!'

admiralofthefleet

wouldnt it be great

conchubhar1

beidh

soccymonster

conchubhar1 wrote: »

beidh

im jealous of your fluency in our native tongue.

Micilin Muc

Dionysus wrote: »

Some of us have successfully chatted up fiery Irish women under the guise of Irish class for many years. Language classes generally are the hottest places around for meeting the coolest Irish women on the planet. If they are at Irish class they have to be well educated and, more importantly, good-hearted. In a world of shallow, superficial types this is refreshing.

If you want to meet great spirited people and even a soul mate, language classes generally are great fun and chatting birds up in the Irish is just the best craic ever. Legend!

I've been teaching Irish to adults for a few years now and I know of 3 couples who met each other in my class :cool:

conchubhar1

soccymonster wrote: »

im jealous of your fluency in our native tongue.

why thank you! :P

why say a lot when you can get straight to the point? :D

----
dev met his wife in conradh na gaeilge? if i am not mistaken

i met many (ok a few) fine cailíns meself

Dionysus

karlog wrote: »

Dont think we would be different just better off if you catch my drift not everyone in a country learns a second language fluently

Yeah, we're [Note: not 'were'] doing powerfully now with all this English. It's not even that "great language to sell pigs in" these days. Those poor French and Finns (to take two nationalities of many) must be down on their knees wishing they had abandoned their own language for the "better off" life English speakers in Ireland now have.


If you read one academic book in your life, go into your local library and read the 'Perspectives' section of J. J. Lee, Politics and Society in Ireland, 1912-1985. It will, hopefully, open up your mind to radical ideas like bilingualism, and historical facts such as the huge economic success of Italian immigrants in the United States despite their first language being Italian, and much, much else.

In the meantime you are, as another poster has said, embarrassing yourself with your anti-Irish language argument. The fact that you are writing in abysmal English adds irony to everything.

conchubhar1

exactly i love english (the language) and i love irish (fecking all of it)

bilingualism is great (tri and quad etc is better!!!!)

soccymonster

conchubhar1 wrote: »

why thank you! :P

why say a lot when you can get straight to the point? :D

your welcome.:) caithfidh me a ra go ni a fhios agat aon gaeilge ach ta me ar-fheabhas. Ta tu amadach! Mwhahaha..:D

conchubhar1

soccymonster wrote: »

your welcome.:) caithfidh me a ra go ni a fhios agat aon gaeilge ach ta me ar-fheabhas. Ta tu amadach! Mwhahaha..:D

Caitfidh mé a rá nach bhfuil aon gaeilge agat, ach tá mé ar fheabhas! Tá tú amaideach! Mwhahaha..
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

you do know irish - and its the using it that counts - you should try it more, like in the irish forum or teach na ngealt!

PaulieD

Micilin Muc wrote: »

I've been teaching Irish to adults for a few years now and I know of 3 couples who met each other in my class :cool:

Will you teach me? If so, how much? PM us.

conchubhar1

that reminds me i am going to have to get a few grind hours of a few ordinary students next year to make some cash

jill_valentine

Irish speakers, when trying to encourage other people to pick up Irish, should take care always to present themselves as people we'd want to talk to...

conchubhar1

yes - because irish speakers people are magical, they can please everybody at all times.

everyone should try not to be an ass tho, in general.

markopantelic

PaulieD wrote: »

Will you teach me? If so, how much? PM us.

I'll teach you but perhaps you wouldn't want a stupid immigrant teaching you?:pac:

An Fear Aniar

anonymous_joe wrote: »

I'd love to know what Irish sounded like if we all spoke it. Because at the end of the day, what we learn isn't really a natural vibrant language.

It would sound like this (it's only a few soicind)

I'm reading Fiche Blian ag Fás at the moment and really enjoying it. One thing that strikes me about it is that people used lots of very affectionate terms to each other all the time, there were lots of kindly words and phrases which were all lost... only to be replaced by "ya gob****e, ya bollix etc"....

I can read Irish fairly effortlessly but when it comes to constructing sentences and speaking it... I'm hopeless and not comfortable about it at all.

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This_Years_Love

phasers wrote: »

póg mo thóin

Some of my mates & I got a load of American tourist to say that the other day in town. We told them it meant "Nice to meet you". They were saying it to everyone in the pub. LOL

This_Years_Love

I haven't used Irish since school (except for the rude words). In fact I barely just passed it in my Leaving Cert. It would be nice to be able to speak it though. I do wish I'd paid more attention in school. But back then (in my school), we thought it was "gay" and Irish was basically a doss class.

An Fear Aniar

This_Years_Love wrote: »

But back then (in my school), we thought it was "gay" and Irish was basically a doss class.

Is fíor duit, is teanga aerach í an Ghaeilge.

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dlofnep

Look, speaking or understanding Gaeilge doesn't make someone more or less Irish.. But at least, as Irish people - respect the will to keep it a relevant part of our culture.

jill_valentine

dlofnep wrote: »

But at least, as Irish people - respect the will to keep it a relevant part of our culture.

As an Irish person, I'm not obliged to do anything. My nationality is a matter of happenstance and nothing more.

This is what I was kinda trying to get at. Nationalism is no incentive to me. If you want to encourage people to pick up Irish, or at least to respect it's preservation, you need to find a better reason to offer them than just "You should because you're Irish."