Daily Mail Biased.

Iwasfrozen

Is anyone else sick of the obviouse boot licking the Mail does to the No side ? This reached critical mass on page 18 of yesterdays paper.
I'll post up their lies and hopefully expose them for the scum they are:

First of there was the headline:

Irish Daily Mail wrote:

As Cowen sets the date for Lisbon II, we fund his "propaganda"

Truth: The Government is prohibited from supporting one side in a referendum. No exceptions.
All the Government is doing is providing Information packs to educate the Irish people on the Lisbon treaty. Thought the No side would rather we stayed ignorate and fall for their lies.

Then of course we get down to the real claims:
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I'm asking everyone here who wants a yes vote and who is concerned about the lies being feed to our people about Lisbon to email a complaint to: letters@dailymail.co.uk

tonycascarino

Sure the same can be said of the Irish Times who seem to desperately pushing for a YES vote.
Look at this rubbish.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0704/1224250033377.html

PopeBuckfastXVI

The Daily Fail is a Tory Rag. People in Ireland should know better than to heed it's political crusades, given our history with the Tory Party, and Conservative English base.

I wouldn't waste the electrons it would take to email them.

BroomBurner

I didn't realise there were people out there that didn't understand that the Daily Mail in Ireland is anti-EU. They always have been, always will be.

However, it's good to have a mixed bag of newspapers out there, freedom of choice and all that.

5uspect

It's called the Daily Fail for a reason.

The classic example is their cervical cancer campaign.
The oppose it in the UK and fight for it here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/18/bad-science-cancer-jabs-daily-mail

Iwasfrozen

tonycascarino wrote:

Sure the same can be said of the Irish Times who seem to desperately pushing for a YES vote.

Not true, at least the Irish Times can back up their reasons for a yes vote with truth rather than scare mongering and **** throwing.

Permabear

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seamus

Most of the english red tops have an anti-EU agenda, both in the UK and here.

PopeBuckfastXVI

tonycascarino wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0704/1224250033377.html

That's an opinion piece, and is presented as such.

tonycascarino

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Not true, at least the Irish Times can back up their reasons for a yes vote with truth rather than scare mongering and **** throwing.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2009/0710/1224250386451.html

Take a look at the scaremongering from Brendan Halligan of the YES side, who is currently the Policy Coordinator for the Labour Party & former MEP claiming we'll be kicked out of the EU if we vote NO. The Irish Times is just as bad as any tbh.

Iwasfrozen

seamus wrote: »

Most of the english red tops have an anti-EU agenda, both in the UK and here.

Thats what worries me, The UK based newspapers are coming to ireland and planting the ugly seed of euroscepticism over here.

PopeBuckfastXVI

tonycascarino wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2009/0710/1224250386451.html

Sure look at the scaremongering from Brendan Halligan of the YES side, who is currently the Policy Coordinator for the Labour Party claiming we'll be kicked out of the EU if we vote NO.

That's a Letter to the Editor!

Iwasfrozen

tonycascarino wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2009/0710/1224250386451.html

Sure look at the scaremongering from Brendan Halligan of the YES side, who is currently the Policy Coordinator for the Labour Party claiming we'll be kicked out of the EU if we vote NO. The Irish Times is just as bad as any tbh.

Again that's presented as opinion.

axelgrease

The shame is that some people still believe everything that they read in the newspapers and everything they see on TV and hear on the Radio. Remember everyone has an agenda, even the Daily Mail!!

tonycascarino

PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »

That's a Letter to the Editor!

I know but why is the Irish Times allowing this scaremongering when it's clearly not fact?

PopeBuckfastXVI

tonycascarino wrote: »

I know, as I said why is the Irish Times allowing this scaremongering?

There's a massive difference between reporting something as fact and printing a Letter to the Editor.

PopeBuckfastXVI

axelgrease wrote: »

The shame is that some people still believe everything that they read in the newspapers and everything they see on TV and hear on the Radio. Remember everyone has an agenda, even the Daily Mail!!

I don't agree, more and more we actually seek out media that confirm our existing opinions and beliefs. So Eurosceptics will read and choose to believe the 'Fail because it confirms their existing fears and beliefs.

This is particularly prevalent on the interwebz where there are any numbers of blogs which present opinion as news.

tonycascarino

PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »

There's a massive difference between reporting something as fact and printing a Letter to the Editor.

The guy that wrote it is a Policy Coordinator for the Labour Party & a former MEP, which I'm sure the Irish Times know.

PopeBuckfastXVI

tonycascarino wrote: »

The guy that wrote it is a Policy Coordinator for the Labour Party, which I'm sure the Irish Times know.

And I'm sure that's what got him printed. It's still a letter and not a news report.

Edit: Just to say, he merely highlights a possibility, and asks that that possibility be included in the debate. He doesn't anywhere claim that that possibility *will* happen.

PopeBuckfastXVI

IT - Letter asking for a 'No' to Lisbon...

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2009/0709/1224250317377.html

Letters are just letters...

And an opinion piece by Aengus Ó Snodaigh

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0625/1224249509149.html

tonycascarino

Here's another opinion piece from the Irish Times basically saying if we vote No that we'll be financially isolated in Europe. Scaremongering rubbish!
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0709/1224250317388.html

The reality is all papers are as bad as each other.

Edit : Pope it does say we'll be financially isolated. It's on the last line of the first paragraph.

PopeBuckfastXVI

tonycascarino wrote: »

Here's another opinion piece from the Irish Times basically saying if we vote No that we'll be financially isolated in Europe. Scaremongering rubbish!
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0709/1224250317388.html

The reality is all papers are as bad as each other.

It doesn't say that at all!

But I do agree that all papers are as bad each other, but some are more bad than others

FutureTaoiseach

I love the Mail for providing balance to the Eurofederalist Establishment press. At least the Mail doesn't print an editorial entitled 'Have we all gone mad/a poor reflection of ourselves' when polls show us voting contrary to the editor's line unlike Madame Editor over at the Irish Times. :rolleyes: Maybe they are biased, but so are the pro-Lisbon rags like the IT, the Examiner, the Sunday Business Post, the Irish Independent, the Sunday Tribune etc.

Scofflaw

Short of someone pulling up all the articles about Lisbon from both papers, and dividing them into No and Yes articles/editorials/letters/opinion pieces, the question is not going to be objectively answerable.

Having said that, there's no doubt that the UK red-tops are anti-EU, and there's no doubt that the Irish versions are too. The question of the stance of the broadsheets is more difficult - most of them have some form of balance, but exactly where the balance lies is subjective.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Daftendirekt

Nah, the Daily Mail is a great paper.











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