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12-07-2009 1:46pm#1
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She posted in the vegetarian forum, so suggestions like that really don't help.
Crumble Froo - I think the main thing you're really missing is fruit and veg - maybe have a glass of orange juice or other fruit juice with your breakfast, buy a smoothie maker and sometimes have smoothies during the day, have vegetables in your dinner - find some recipes for stir-frys, vegetarian curries, vegetable stews, etc. Try making soup for lunch - I have some nice recipes which I will post here when I find the time.
i have actually made the point of buying orange juice lately, pretty sure the stuff is mostly water, but i dont particularly like water, and milk is just so expensive. stir fries... that's lots of vegs and stuff at once, right? should also point out that i can't handle spicy foods. BUT while living in sydney for a while last year, the peeps i was living with were big into their food, and fed me heaps of veggies and stuff, mostly stir fries i think. gonna email them now while im feeling proactive :P
hehe, used to have a smoothie maker... started off all healthy and stuff till my housemate discovered how awesome icecream was in them... ill see if i can get anyone to post my old one over to me.
gotta admit, apart from miso, ive yet to find a soup ill willingly eat... if you post your recipe on this thread, i promise ill try it, but i can't prmise ill like it :P
thanks lala for posting... i really really want to sort out some of my food issues, and im gonna do all i can to work with/around them to get myself back on solid ground 0 -
You definitely need to include some more fruit and veg. Could probably do with a bit more dairy aswell- cheeses and yoghurts, maybe fruit yoghurts. Beans and peas are good for protein too.
Cheap noodles can only be so healthy read the packaging, some might be better than others.
Try to give variety to your food to make it more interesting. Think of foods you know you like and put them together. Sauces can change a meal aswell as adding vits and minerals. good luck:)0 -
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Here is a good place as well as trying the diet and nutrition forum, they can help you out too.
Eggs are your friend, good for you! Egg whites are fantastic for protein. Things like seeds, nuts, soya, quinoa, dairy etc, eat them. Do you eat fake meat? willing to try some?
Plenty of veg... stir fry or roasting veg is a good way to get this. I didn't eat any of this a few years back and have gradually changed. Stick as low GI as you can, loads of vegetables and so on. Don't eat breads and other bad carbs as much as you can, there are two types of carbs, so we will talk about them. You don't have to be too strict on yourself with my advice to not eat something, I am/was verrrrrrrrrrrrry picky with food too and I know it is hard trying new things. Do what you are comfortable with, baby steps. Some stuff from the nutrition forum:
'We generally classify carbs in two types: simple and complex. Simple carbs are basic sugars like sucrose (table sugar) or glucose or dextrose (often you’ll see dextrose as an ingredient on processed foods – that just means it has added sugar in it). Simple carbs are very easily broken down by our bodies and they are classified as being high GI, when you eat them you get a ‘sugar rush’. The only problem with this rush is that what comes up must go down and so soon after eating a lot of simple carbs your blood sugar will tend to crash, leaving you feel a bit sluggish and tired and hungry for more food! All processed foods are usually very high in simple carbs. Complex carbs are things like wholemeal bread, brown rice, wholemeal pasta, grains and potatoes, the carbs that give you a slower, more prolonged energy release.
Keep your energy levels nice and steady and your appetite happy it’s better to keep your carb intake to complex carbs and nutrient-rich simple carbs like fruits and dairy.
Fats are wonderful though, and are so, so important in your diet. We all hear about omega-3 being necessary for brain power, fat is necessary to protect your organs, it’s a vital component of our cells.
To cut a very long story short,
Good fats = mono- and poly-unsaturated fats. Found in nuts, seeds, oily fish and nut, plant and seed oils (omega-3, 6 and 9 are types of polyunsaturated fats).
Bad fats = saturated fats, trans-fats. Found in animal fats and processed foods. These should be reduced but wholefood sources of sat fats need not be altogether eliminated - a little goes a long way.
I see you are not a fan of soups, ones from supermarkets arre generally horrible, if you figure out a good vegetable soup you can make yourself, that will be very helpful.
Also, maybe get your blood tested to see if you are missing anything, if you are worried that is, or having too much of anything, I have only had 2 so far, but it's not bad to get them every now and again, free with a medical card. My brother was missing folic acid recently, so it's good to find out!
So simple easy meals:
Porridge/eggs/weetabix and muesli are good for breafast. If you are going to have rice or something with food later on, that is just carbs, try something like quinoa instead sometimes, very good for you in comparison. You can easily buy some nuts or seeds or raisins and throw them in a stirfry, things like that. Simple veg dishes like that and roast veg etc are good for you and as I have shockingly discovered, delicious.
Few years back I wouldn't have eaten any of this, and god knows I took so much convincing to try things(lentils! onion!), but it is worth it when you do, interesting and tasty. Wish you the best. 0 -
As a starving student something I'd like to add is that there's no point being a snob about fruit and veg if you're on a budget. Frozen and canned veg tends to be a LOT cheaper, you can get a can of tomatoes or sweetcorn in tesco for less than 50c, and a big bag of frozen veg for around 2-3 quid. It's not ideal but it's a cheap way to get it in. Stir fries are excellent as has been pointed out, and just fecking some veg into a falafel or sandwich or having a piece of fruit with brekkie will make a massive difference to your health.
Nuts and seeds ftw as well, you can get this milled seed mix in health food shops (brandname is linwoods I think) which is excellent. It costs about 6 0r 7 euro but it lasts at least a few weeks because you only need two spoonfuls a day-on your cereal, in stews or soups etc and there's massive amounts of good stuff in it.
Well done for trying to make a change, you really don't have that crap of a diet anyway so don't feel bad 0 -
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Crumble Froo wrote: »aaaaaaaaand my big long reply was just deleted. **** you time out and copypaste. **** you all.
thanks everyone... will try reply later tonight.
Aw. I HATE when that happens, and I've had some huge replies go missing in my time. Once one that was too long to be posted and had to be posted in three posts.
I have become addicted to copying my text if I write anything over a few lines. We lesrn the hard way!0 -
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yes i do. i do quite actively note the lack of fruit and try to make it to the fruit and veg places, which are a gazilion times cheaper than buying stuff in supermarkets, but im just hopeless at getting there sometimes... (like, the last two months). im just a bit hopeless with veg, dont particularly like any of it.You definitely need to include some more fruit and veg.
now this i can do. cheese, unless melted onto toast, im not really mad on at all, but i could easily go through 4l of milk in a week, 6l if ive been on the drink and need to quench dehydration the next day. yogurt. alright, im actually reading this and writing down a sort of shopping list for myself now. cool.Could probably do with a bit more dairy aswell- cheeses and yoghurts, maybe fruit yoghurts.Beans and peas are good for protein too.
nw, i am of the understanding that there is more to beans and peas than just baked beans and frozen/mushy peas. what others are there and how can i find them and what do i do with them when i do find them?
christ, ill tell you now, the cheapo ones i go for have more salt in them than the dead sea >_>Cheap noodles can only be so healthy
actually, reading on from here, im thinking i might just not buy them anymore, and try for wholegrain/brown pasta/ricey stuff from here on. hopefully. *gulp* :eek:read the packaging, some might be better than others.Try to give variety to your food to make it more interesting. Think of foods you know you like and put them together. Sauces can change a meal aswell as adding vits and minerals. good luck
mmm, and that is how i managed to put together the drunken classic... egg and falafal sandwich. omgnommage. sauces though... scary... i cant even begin to describe how psyched out i am right now.
i lurk quite a bit, usually too lazy to post, or anything i want to say has already been said. i do spend quite a bit of time in here though.Master of Nothing wrote: »Ah another familiar face posting in here:)
ok, so limited sources is bad? cos i gotta admit, tofu i only eat sparingly, purely for the nutritional benefit, i usually just cook it with other stuff so i can pretend my meal is vaguely healthy.but importantly you only have protein from 3 sources (milk, eggs and tofu)
cool. also, should i limit how many eggs i have per day/week? not quite sure on that one...but i WILL add that milk and eggs are really really good sources of both protein and esential amino acids:) The cheapest way to add some more protein is to get some nuts (almonds and brazil nuts are good for this).
and nuts, i really amn't keen on
i shall do thisNoodles are basically like pasta, lots of carbs for energy, if you could see a way to eat brown/wholemeal noodles this would be so much better for you adn give you a longer, sustained release of energy during the day like your weetabix does.
and this.Breakfast - it seems fine but if possible add in a piece of fruit
will stick to just fruit... and maybe seeds... ye have me curious.Snack - seems to be missing but some fruit, portion of nuts...like 5 almonds or something and water will do here, and its pretty cheap too!Lunch - maybe a yogurt, piece of fruit, a sandwich or two, with a protein source and some water is good here.
right, this one spun me earlier when i was first writing a reply. that's quite a lot for lunch. but ok, ill try do that. it's doable, it's ... ok, it's gonna be quite a big change. but ok, i can do that. i hope.
didnt used to, but think that's what i had in oz that i liked, so ok. ive arranged iwth a mate that we're gonna go nuts and try make stir fry together some evening this week. with a sauce on it and everything. ive got a knot in my stomach with nerves just thinking about that. im sersiously starting to spin out here.Dinner - you like stir fry?have lots of veg done this way and eat your noodles along with it...add sauce if thats your thing too! this is a cheap, tasty and easy way to get lots of veg in. If you can afford em, seeds are really handy to add fibre into a dinner like this (sunflower and sesame etc these will help your digestive system process food and waste).
im going to try this. this is scary. but im goin to try it.Snack - keep it light, some tea and toast or something:D
that's not a snack! that's a meal!Sorry it looks like a long read but i hope it can help in some way, why i wrote 5 "meals" is because thats what most people should be eating each day. Each portion of water should be at least a glassfull, portion of fruit would be an apple/orange/kiwi or if smaller like grapes then 6-8 of em.
thanks dude, it is much appreciated. water is sometehing i never really thought about before, im gonna do that.
thanks... think ill stick to here for the while, it's more familiar and cosyTar.Aldarion wrote: »Here is a good place as well as trying the diet and nutrition forum, they can help you out too. (all that lurking)
should i be limiting how many i have per day/week?Eggs are your friend, good for you! Egg whites are fantastic for protein.
seeds.. im kinda intrigued... what sort of seeds, how do i eat htem and ... yeah, seeds are for planting, the concept of eating them is quite new to me.Things like seeds, nuts, soya, quinoa, dairy etc, eat them. Do you eat fake meat? willing to try some?
nuts... not if i can help it... don't like hte taste of them in general, but i could try for a few over the course of the day (like 5-8) in small doses.
soya, i only know as a milk substitute... dont mind it in my tea (mate's got intolerances), but have had soya yoghurt before and it just tasted like playdough. does it come in more forms?
wtf is quinoa?
dairy, i like, as mentioned above.
fake meat? nope. falafal and mushrooms, yep, but, as far as i can make out, based on vegetarian sausages, it's too expensive (they're about $8, which is a horrendous amount of money to me for food).
yep, gonna try this. terrifying a concept as it is.Plenty of veg... stir fry or roasting veg is a good way to get this. I didn't eat any of this a few years back and have gradually changed.
ie - food that's not man-made/comes in packaging as a general rule of thumb?Stick as low GI as you can, loads of vegetables and so on.
way to break my heart with this one...Don't eat breads and other bad carbs as much as you can, there are two types of carbs, so we will talk about them.
and i can't even begin to thankyou for that bit, it is actually oddly very comfortingYou don't have to be too strict on yourself with my advice to not eat something, I am/was verrrrrrrrrrrrry picky with food too and I know it is hard trying new things. Do what you are comfortable with, baby steps. Some stuff from the nutrition forum:
ooh, potatoes, good call. this bit is all doable. i like thisComplex carbs are things like wholemeal bread, brown rice, wholemeal pasta, grains and potatoes, the carbs that give you a slower, more prolonged energy release.To cut a very long story short,
Good fats = mono- and poly-unsaturated fats. Found in nuts, seeds, oily fish and nut, plant and seed oils (omega-3, 6 and 9 are types of polyunsaturated fats).
nuts are out, seeds i am intrigued by and would like to learn more, fish is out, plant and seed oils... would that be like sunflower oil that you'd fry in etc?
on that note... is there anything i should be looking for/avoiding when buying cooking oils?Bad fats = saturated fats, trans-fats. Found in animal fats and processed foods. These should be reduced but wholefood sources of sat fats need not be altogether eliminated - a little goes a long way.
noted.
never really got any from supermarkets, it's mostly been in restaurants, though throughout childhood ive never liked them either, except the miso.I see you are not a fan of soups, ones from supermarkets arre generally horrible, if you figure out a good vegetable soup you can make yourself, that will be very helpful.
got my medical done for my visa immigration recently and everything came back within the realms of normal. which is particularly impressive as someone who had lots of problems with anaemia before becoming a vegetarian :pac:Also, maybe get your blood tested to see if you are missing anything, if you are worried that is, or having too much of anything, I have only had 2 so far, but it's not bad to get them every now and again, free with a medical card. My brother was missing folic acid recently, so it's good to find out!So simple easy meals:
Porridge/eggs/weetabix and muesli are good for breafast. If you are going to have rice or something with food later on, that is just carbs, try something like quinoa instead sometimes, very good for you in comparison. You can easily buy some nuts or seeds or raisins and throw them in a stirfry, things like that. Simple veg dishes like that and roast veg etc are good for you and as I have shockingly discovered, delicious.
really, what is this quinoa of which you speak? and thanks for that. that looks doable. it looks simple and doable. if you exlcude the stir fries, but ill manage them. i think. no, i will. actually, im gonna text my mate now and arrange our stir fry night for sure and make sure i can't wuss out
Few years back I wouldn't have eaten any of this, and god knows I took so much convincing to try things(lentils! onion!), but it is worth it when you do, interesting and tasty. Wish you the best.
thanks, i really do appreciate it.... actually i remember loving lentils the one time i had them back in ireland when my housemate cooked them up.
thanks! haha, you totally spun me for a moment, at a glance, i live in a suburb in christchurch, nz, called linwood and i thought you were directing me to a health shop in that suburb >_<Jaycee Mammoth Searchlight wrote: »ANuts and seeds ftw as well, you can get this milled seed mix in health food shops (brandname is linwoods I think) which is excellent. It costs about 6 0r 7 euro but it lasts at least a few weeks because you only need two spoonfuls a day-on your cereal, in stews or soups etc and there's massive amounts of good stuff in it.
but that is a good idea. im going to do that.
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Seeds? GO to the supermarket and buy a bag of sunflower seeds. These are usually quite cheap. You can then just snack on them - or I love them lightly dry fried in a frying pan until they go golden brown then chucked on top of a large mixed salad.
on the shopping list. dry fry... just fry them without any oil? just pan, hob and seeds, right? (really, im useless around kitchens).Quinoa? Use as you would use cous cous or rice. There are loads of recipes. Get onto vegweb and pick a few recipes that are easy to make.
gah, you've just made me google quinoa and cous cous! :P right, so they're kinda rice-y-ish things. can be cooked like rice? adding them to the list, but no promises ill buy em, gotta check out the price, our power and phone bills managed to sync up this month so im having a small spazz re finances at the moment.Eating those instant noodles is a nutritional desert. Your body needs all the colours of the rainbow to get all it needs. I would be more worried about getting all the vits/minerals/efa`s I needed instead of worrying about protein.
i agree totally... i never really mentioned protein as a specific worry, but i guess as a veggie it is one of those things that people tend to look out for...
(wtf are EFA's, btw?).Can you grow any of your own food? A few pots and you can grow your own salad leaves. Then if you get some wholemeal pittas stuff them with leaves and other salad and finish with a big dollop of hummous mmmmmmmm.
nah. backgarden is full of cacti and skateramp. also, never mad on hummus. eat it when all other options out, but not too keen on the stuff.There is no need for any vegetarian to live off instant noodles and bread - there is a wealth out interesting food out there. Maybe get yourself a veggie student cook book as these are designed for people with limited cooking skills and money.
ill keep an eye out for one... actually, i pass the main library tomorrow, ill see if i can find one then.
If anyone can read then they can cook as thats all following a simple recipe is - read it and do it.Great that you are back in counselling as I think this will help you no end. Also maybe while out and about on your walks pop an apple or banana in your bag and have that when you reach a lovely scenic point and take time to look at the view and enjoy some of natures bounty.
i like your style yep, i gotta remember to bring snacks out with me... and a drink. even in winter, it can get quite warm here, when the sun shines, in the daytime (16 degrees at day, -3 at night isnt the most absurd thing here). 0 -
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People used to think you should limit your eggs quite a bit for cholesterol reasons, until it was figured ouot the type of cholesterol in eggs actually lowers the bad type of cholesterol. The only reason to limit eggs is if you are overweight, which you are not. They are a great snack, love boiled eggs!Crumble Froo wrote: »cool. also, should i limit how many eggs i have per day/week? not quite sure on that one...
and nuts, i really amn't keen on
And there is no way you should ever limit egg whites as they are just protein and water. As for nuts, there are so many kinds and I didn't used to like most but I do now. Adding them into things to give a crunch is nice. If you try a few and don't like em, just try eating somehting else.
You can pick up bags of seeds/mixed seeds and I like trying them on things. Or just eating a handful. You can get sunflower, pumpkin, sesame, poppy, flaxwill stick to just fruit... and maybe seeds... ye have me curious.
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seeds.. im kinda intrigued... what sort of seeds, how do i eat htem and ... yeah, seeds are for planting, the concept of eating them is quite new to me.
nuts... not if i can help it... don't like hte taste of them in general, but i could try for a few over the course of the day (like 5-8) in small doses.
etc and if you don't like them you can get things like flax seed oil or flax seeds kind of ground up that you can add like pepper and not even taste.
They contain protein, fibre and vitamins/minerals. And you can get some nice breads with loats of seeds in it. Add em to anything really, salad, dinner, breakfast cereal, casserole or just on their own if you like em. Eat them raw or you can fry the dry or roast them dry, ie no oil. My sister used to plant sunflowers all teh time and I was a menace for eating the seeds. :pac:
As for nuts, if you don't like em fair enough, they are high in fat so you shouldn't eat lots and lots anywhay, but they are good for you, if you ever get into them! I know you are thinking, agh, I can't eat these things but I was the same, I just ate meat and potatoes and then just potatoes when I gave up meat haha. Now I have quinoa, various vegetables, couscouse, bag o' seeds, nuts, giant bag of onions in the kitchen! You have no idea how much I hated these things and it was so hard to try them, especially onion, and now I am salivating thinking about taking a chomp out of a giant one.
It took years of trying onion to like it, but it's worth it now.
Oh and you asked what efa's are, they are essential fatty acids that you need to eat, unsaturated fats. You can get them in seeds, nuts, some vegetables, soya etc.
So many different forms! From somehting that tastes like mousse, to chicken, to butter, to whatever. Some of these alternatives can be expensive as you say, best to try and find cheap ones if you can. Soya is the only vegetarian source of the essential amino acids thats make up the complete protein that we need. Otherwise you ahve to mix and match foods to get them.soya, i only know as a milk substitute... dont mind it in my tea (mate's got intolerances), but have had soya yoghurt before and it just tasted like playdough. does it come in more forms?
I was asked that years ago by the other moderator on this forum, was jsut reading the post.wtf is quinoa?
It looks like a kind of rice food.Quinoa was of great nutritional importance in pre-Columbian Andean civilizations, being secondary only to the potato, and was followed in importance by maize. In contemporary times, this crop has become highly appreciated for its nutritional value, as its protein content is very high (12%–18%), making it a healthful choice for vegetarians and vegans. Unlike wheat or rice (which are low in lysine), quinoa contains a balanced set of essential amino acids for humans, making it an unusually complete protein source.[3] It is a good source of dietary fiber and phosphorus and is high in magnesium and iron. Quinoa is gluten-free and considered easy to digest. Because of all these characteristics, quinoa is being considered a possible crop in NASA's Controlled Ecological Life Support System for long-duration manned spaceflights.
It's pretty cheap, couple of euro for something that gives you lots and lots of meals. It all fluffs up when you cook it so you don't need much. You just put a bit in a pot, put in roughly twice the amount of water, bring it to a simmer and just let the water evaporate off until there is none left and it's ready. I burned it the first one or two times :P
So i would eat this with lots of things like stirfry atm or with anything where I would have used potato before!
Yep they might be a bit expensive, there are some cheap ones here, maybe you will see some there.dairy, i like, as mentioned above.
fake meat? nope. falafal and mushrooms, yep, but, as far as i can make out, based on vegetarian sausages, it's too expensive (they're about $8, which is a horrendous amount of money to me for food).
Food in a box that has over like 5 ingredients usually, but I don't even stick to avoiding these really. :die - food that's not man-made/comes in packaging as a general rule of thumb?
Just best to if you can.
Ah yeah I love bread! Ate so much every day, but it's just empty carbs/calories. Try and get the healthier ones anyway. I used to eat so much and that gradually changed when I liked more food and didn't have to just have a roll or a sandwich until the point where I only ate bread at my ex-girlfriends house or stuck away for a day out and needed a sandwich at a deli. You can still eat it of course, baby stepsway to break my heart with this one...
If you get a breadmaker like me, was given one, then you can choose your own ingrediants and jsut throw em in and out comes bread, amazing! hehe.
you can get them for about 30E even. And they make pizza dough!
You think you are picky, should see me! hehe. I know it is hard and take it slow, what's the rush, just improve your diet gradually and if you don't like something in a stirfry or whatever, the best way I have come across to liking it is making your other half or friend etc cut it up small and force it into your food.and i can't even begin to thankyou for that bit, it is actually oddly very comforting Like the dreaded carrot! I can even stomach that now!
Soups are hit and miss, I only like a few and the rest are disgusting. So I just focused on trying a soup every now and again. But when I like one, I LOVE it, and it's an excuse to eat precious bread.never really got any from supermarkets, it's mostly been in restaurants, though throughout childhood ive never liked them either, except the miso.
Good news, got my bloodwork a couple weeks back and it's good to see things are going right.got my medical done for my visa immigration recently and everything came back within the realms of normal. which is particularly impressive as someone who had lots of problems with anaemia before becoming a vegetarian :pac:
Good attitude, make your friend get you to do it, best way. Chop up the veg really small and add soy sauce are my hot tips for trying to come to terms with a stirfry. If you like raisins I love them in it too. And roast vegetables are just delicious.really, what is this quinoa of which you speak? and thanks for that. that looks doable. it looks simple and doable. if you exlcude the stir fries, but ill manage them. i think. no, i will. actually, im gonna text my mate now and arrange our stir fry night for sure and make sure i can't wuss out0 -
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Tar.Aldarion wrote: »Oh and you asked about beanns, yes there are more than baked.
* baked beans
* red, green, yellow and brown lentils
* black eyed peas
* garden peas
* runner beans
* chickpeas
* broad beans
* kidney beans
* butter beans
and so on. I don't eat most of these yet but worth looking at for the future, quite good for you! Problem with baked beans is the sauce coating them, but whatever, still going to eat them, we all have our vices...like chef brown sauce...mmmm....oh where was I !
Eat beans and peas :pac:
i was with you till the brown sauce thing... EEEEEWWWWWWW!!!
thanks though :P
awesome.Tar.Aldarion wrote: »People used to think you should limit your eggs quite a bit for cholesterol reasons, until it was figured ouot the type of cholesterol in eggs actually lowers the bad type of cholesterol. The only reason to limit eggs is if you are overweight, which you are not. They are a great snack, love boiled eggs!
And there is no way you should ever limit egg whites as they are just protein and water.As for nuts, there are so many kinds and I didn't used to like most but I do now. Adding them into things to give a crunch is nice. If you try a few and don't like em, just try eating somehting else.
alright. they're lower down on my list, but i will try them.You can pick up bags of seeds/mixed seeds and I like trying them on things. Or just eating a handful. You can get sunflower, pumpkin, sesame, poppy, flax
etc and if you don't like them you can get things like flax seed oil or flax seeds kind of ground up that you can add like pepper and not even taste.
They contain protein, fibre and vitamins/minerals. And you can get some nice breads with loats of seeds in it. Add em to anything really, salad, dinner, breakfast cereal, casserole or just on their own if you like em. Eat them raw or you can fry the dry or roast them dry, ie no oil. My sister used to plant sunflowers all teh time and I was a menace for eating the seeds. :pac:
was just thinking actually, i *do* love seeds on bread... my boss's hubby works in a cafe and every now and then she brings in veggie sambiches for me on this gorgeous seedy bread, filled with stuff i dont even know what im eating im defo gonna pick up a variety of seeds next time im out.As for nuts, if you don't like em fair enough, they are high in fat so you shouldn't eat lots and lots anywhay, but they are good for you, if you ever get into them!
ill bear it in mind, but still... they're lower down on my list...
hahahahaah, sounds about right...I know you are thinking, agh, I can't eat these things but I was the same, I just ate meat and potatoes and then just potatoes when I gave up meat haha.Now I have quinoa, various vegetables, couscouse, bag o' seeds, nuts, giant bag of onions in the kitchen! You have no idea how much I hated these things and it was so hard to try them, especially onion, and now I am salivating thinking about taking a chomp out of a giant one.
It took years of trying onion to like it, but it's worth it now.
yep, before i turned veggie, the thought of more than one thing in my sandwich, let alone the concept of salady stuff in there... whew. that one took a while to get over... although i still hate tomatoes. they are awful pointless bastards.Oh and you asked what efa's are, they are essential fatty acids that you need to eat, unsaturated fats. You can get them in seeds, nuts, some vegetables, soya etc.
dankeSo many different forms! From somehting that tastes like mousse, to chicken, to butter, to whatever. Some of these alternatives can be expensive as you say, best to try and find cheap ones if you can. Soya is the only vegetarian source of the essential amino acids thats make up the complete protein that we need. Otherwise you ahve to mix and match foods to get them.
cool. been added to the list.It's pretty cheap, couple of euro for something that gives you lots and lots of meals. It all fluffs up when you cook it so you don't need much. You just put a bit in a pot, put in roughly twice the amount of water, bring it to a simmer and just let the water evaporate off until there is none left and it's ready. I burned it the first one or two times :P
So i would eat this with lots of things like stirfry atm or with anything where I would have used potato before!
cool, it looks doable... and sufficiently plain.
hey, you ever had grits? mate in atlanta georgia tells me it's a southern thing, but i quite liked those (plain).Yep they might be a bit expensive, there are some cheap ones here, maybe you will see some there.
ill keep my eyes peeled, but won't be holding my breath.Food in a box that has over like 5 ingredients usually, but I don't even stick to avoiding these really. :d
Just best to if you can. kewl.Ah yeah I love bread! Ate so much every day, but it's just empty carbs/calories. Try and get the healthier ones anyway. I used to eat so much and that gradually changed when I liked more food and didn't have to just have a roll or a sandwich until the point where I only ate bread at my ex-girlfriends house or stuck away for a day out and needed a sandwich at a deli. You can still eat it of course, baby steps
i think my reduction in bread consumption is going to be the biggest change i make... there are many many days where it is actually all i eat...If you get a breadmaker like me, was given one, then you can choose your own ingrediants and jsut throw em in and out comes bread, amazing! hehe.
you can get them for about 30E even. And they make pizza dough!
errr... ill add it to the christmas list...You think you are picky, should see me! hehe. I know it is hard and take it slow, what's the rush, just improve your diet gradually and if you don't like something in a stirfry or whatever, the best way I have come across to liking it is making your other half or friend etc cut it up small and force it into your food. Like the dreaded carrot! I can even stomach that now!
not the raw carrot?! :eek:Soups are hit and miss, I only like a few and the rest are disgusting. So I just focused on trying a soup every now and again. But when I like one, I LOVE it, and it's an excuse to eat precious bread.
eugh, can't mix bread with soup. ruins the bread and the sogginess... ewwww the sogginess.
good to hear.Good news, got my bloodwork a couple weeks back and it's good to see things are going right.Good attitude, make your friend get you to do it, best way. Chop up the veg really small and add soy sauce are my hot tips for trying to come to terms with a stirfry. If you like raisins I love them in it too. And roast vegetables are just delicious.
im actually really looking forward to putting raisins on the stir fry...
also, have you ever added halved grapes to an omelette... the taste is odd, but oddly good.0 -
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Not many peopel understand my brown sauce thing, it does wonders for my breath :pac:Crumble Froo wrote: »i was with you till the brown sauce thing... EEEEEWWWWWWW!!!
thanks though :P
I agree with tomatoes, still can't get around them! Horrible things. So bitter or something.yep, before i turned veggie, the thought of more than one thing in my sandwich, let alone the concept of salady stuff in there... whew. that one took a while to get over... although i still hate tomatoes. they are awful pointless bastards.
No idea what grits are so no.hey, you ever had grits? mate in atlanta georgia tells me it's a southern thing, but i quite liked those (plain).
Maybe just change the type of bread you eat at first? It's not like you have a weight problem so bread isn't a big worry!i think my reduction in bread consumption is going to be the biggest change i make... there are many many days where it is actually all i eat...
God no, that'll take decades :eek:not the raw carrot?! :eek:
Oh I thought I'd be told I was mad, I love them in it.im actually really looking forward to putting raisins on the stir fry...
No, that's crazy. :-)also, have you ever added halved grapes to an omelette... the taste is odd, but oddly good.0 -
it's worse than red sauce! and i dont like red sauce! though i suspect you may not be able to get brown sauce over here..Tar.Aldarion wrote: »Not many peopel understand my brown sauce thing, it does wonders for my breath :pac:
they jsut taste like not a lot. like they're really badly diluted.I agree with tomatoes, still can't get around them! Horrible things. So bitter or something.No idea what grits are so no.
sota corny rice-ish porridgy stuff. *shrugs*Maybe just change the type of bread you eat at first? It's not like you have a weight problem so bread isn't a big worry!
i eat multigrain most of the time, dont like white (well, brennans do awesome white, but kiwis dont do great white bread)... ill try alternate between multigrain and wholegrain/meal browny stuff.
awesomenses, my boss brought in a veggie sandwich for me today, with all the seeds on top of the bread and i relaised that actually, i do love them, im always picking up the bits that fall off and eating them on tehir own. somehow i missed that before.
save em for the rabbits, i reckon.God no, that'll take decades :eek:Oh I thought I'd be told I was mad, I love them in it.
raisins are awesome. and often add a sorta sugary-ness to stuff when you add them to stuff. or something.No, that's crazy. :-)
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shopping receipt...
red apples
1/4 pumpkin
parsnip
licourice
potatoes
onions
courgette
persimmons
lettuce
carrots
bananas
kiwifruit
brown mushrooms
peaches
blue peas
sunflower seeds
soy sauce
miso soup
tomorrow am picking up some bread and eggs, ran out of daylight. have tofu and falafal in fridge still.
seeds are ****ing expensive.
going home to attempt a stir fry now...
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Crumble Froo wrote: »shopping receipt...
red apples
1/4 pumpkin
parsnip
licourice
potatoes
onions
courgette
persimmons
lettuce
carrots
bananas
kiwifruit
brown mushrooms
peaches
blue peas
sunflower seeds
soy sauce
miso soup
tomorrow am picking up some bread and eggs, ran out of daylight. have tofu and falafal in fridge still.
seeds are ****ing expensive.
going home to attempt a stir fry now...
wish me look
Wow, impressive list, well done! Enjoy!
What are blue peas?!
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****ed if i know.
they were kept near the seeds, and costed less than most of the seeds.
chickened out of hte stir fry last night... but did have egg, falafal and tofu with a cuppa tea, then breakfast this morning was weetabix with sunflower seeds on it (totally forgot to buy raisins), then lunch was a 2 egg sandwiches, with multigrain bread (wholemeal is $2-5 more expensive :eek:) and a peach and a kiwifruit (in nz, you have to add the 'fruit', cos otherwise people think you're talking about cannabalism), dinner, i took the plunge, and threw in some of the pumpkin, pumpkin seeds, parsnip, onion, courgette, carrots, mushrooms, chinese noodles, blue peas, and this sorta miso flavouring stuff.
turns out hte blue peas need to be put on first, really. but it was good. edible certainly. 0 -
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