Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Underequipment causing loss of british lives in Afghanistan ?

  • 13-07-2009 12:31pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭


    Watching Sky news today, they had a special report on Afghanistan and what it claimed were a shortage of helicopters for the british army 5 Chinooks or something as against 120 for the Americans. Now ofcoruse the Americans have much larger number fo forces out there, but still when yopu compare the ratio of helicopters to soldiers, I think it worked out at 8 to 1 times greater for the number of soldiers for the Americans than the british. Indeed, it said the british have to borrow some helicopters off the Americans.

    I also remember reading a post on here about the poor quality of protection of the british vehicles in comparision to the Americans. Let's get real, can anyone see any improvement and surely the body count will just rise and rise ??

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Afghanistan-Deaths-Prompt-Questions-Eight-Soldiers-Killed-In-24-Hours-Named-by-Ministry-Of-Defence/Article/200907215336439?f=rss


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    if you'd asked me back in 2001 how many will have lost their loves in Afghan by 2009 I'd have guessed a couple of thousand
    so by and large I think the troops are doing a great job
    it's been proven that in a straight up firefight the Taliban haven't a chance
    and it's only through cowardly guerilla tactics like IED's that they can inflict real damage


    it's tragic that eight years on the MOD haven't found a solution to the equipment problems,and i think that the main issues is their refusal to buy most equipment off the shelf,but instead the tinker and modify until they cost twice as much as off the peg versions,and take forever to get delivered...

    R.I.P lads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭McArmalite


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    if you'd asked me back in 2001 how many will have lost their loves in Afghan by 2009 I'd have guessed a couple of thousand
    so by and large I think the troops are doing a great job
    it's been proven that in a straight up firefight the Taliban haven't a chance
    and it's only through cowardly guerilla tactics like IED's that they can inflict real damage


    it's tragic that eight years on the MOD haven't found a solution to the equipment problems,and i think that the main issues is their refusal to buy most equipment off the shelf,but instead the tinker and modify until they cost twice as much as off the peg versions,and take forever to get delivered...

    R.I.P lads

    " it's been proven that in a straight up firefight the Taliban haven't a chance and it's only through cowardly guerilla tactics like IED's that they can inflict real damage "

    don't know about that, you must not have been watching Ross Kemp in Afghanistan. Say what you will, the Taliban are hardy bast@rds and are quite organised and able to fight, even the british soldiers said so. They haven't taken on in their time 2 of the worlds greatest superpowers for nothing, USA and USSR. When it came to a man to man shoot out, from what I seen, their were more than able to handle themselves.

    True enough, most of the causualties inflicted on the americans and brits are from IED's. Likewise most of the deaths of the Taliban are from air strikes, artillery, tanks etc Guerillas have to fight hit and run tatics, if the Taliabn were to hang around all day for target practise for the F16's, Apaches, long range artillery, they'd be complete numbskulls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    The Taliban hiding behind women and children hasn't made ISAF's job any easier either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    it's only through cowardly guerilla tactics

    You will find that Guerilla warfare is very very effective, especially when the side using Guerilla warfare are outnumbered and outgeared. It's only logic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    "it's been proven that in a straight up firefight the Taliban haven't a chance"

    A link to the proof ?


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I certainly can't think of any direct fire engagements which they won against ISAF forces. Pretty sure they'd be in the news. Plenty of instances where they had a fair crack at something, such as the ambush of the French unit or the near-overrunning of the American patrol base, but no tactical victories I can think of.

    See politics thread starting at http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61106895&postcount=36 debating the vehicle purchasing policy.

    You can never have enough helicopters, though. We Americans certainly don't have enough here.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭McArmalite


    You will find that Guerilla warfare is very very effective, especially when the side using Guerilla warfare are outnumbered and outgeared. It's only logic.
    I remember as a kid watching a special series of reports for ITN with an English reporter in among the Mudjahadeen as the Taliban were then called. Ofcourse they were lauded in the news reports and indeed the media in general as been extremely brave, patriotic, heroic freedom fighters. But ofcourse that was against the Soviets. Now when more or less the same fellas are up to their old tricks their using " cowardly guerilla tatics ".

    Indeed I remember getting up for school and hearing on the radio ( no 24 hour TV channells then !! ) about the Soviet invasion and later checking out my atlas to see where Afghanistan was. Ofcourse nobody really paid much heed to it all, it seemed so far away and well, of no relevance to us here in the west. No one could ever have imagined that 30 years later it would be in the headlines and events such as Sept. 11 etc would make it a pivotal part of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    McArmalite wrote: »
    I remember as a kid watching a special series of reports for ITN with an English reporter in among the Mudjahadeen as the Taliban were then called. Ofcourse they were lauded in the news reports and indeed the media in general as been extremely brave, patriotic, heroic freedom fighters. But ofcourse that was against the Soviets. Now when more or less the same fellas are up to their old tricks their using " cowardly guerilla tatics ".

    Indeed I remember getting up for school and hearing on the radio ( no 24 hour TV channells then !! ) about the Soviet invasion and later checking out my atlas to see where Afghanistan was. Ofcourse nobody really paid much heed to it all, it seemed so far away and well, of no relevance to us here in the west. No one could ever have imagined that 30 years later it would be in the headlines and events such as Sept. 11 etc would make it a pivotal part of the world.

    I remember that too. The funny thing is that what was not publicised in the west so much was that one of the reasons the soviets went in was that their civilian personnel & engineers etc had been butchered by islamists.

    One of the reasons for this was that the puppet communist regime pushed for too much too soon despite moscow's calls for restraint in pushing through reforms. They pushed for equal rights for, and college education for women, this was the final straw for the sharia supporting islamists who then turned on the russian personnel and killed numbers of them including the puppet regime, triggering the soviet invasion to begin with. Of course at the height of the cold war and with the vietnam outcome still present in the popular culture the americans jumped on this as a chance to watch the soviets have their public defeat. The people the russians fought were much the same as the people the west is now having to deal with. The difference is that they are now 'internationalised' to an extent and probably more organised. It is the same mindset behind it in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭McArmalite


    The Taliban hiding behind women and children hasn't made ISAF's job any easier either.
    You have too much time on your hands Fred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    I also remember the "plucky" Mujahadeen part funded by the CIA, beating the nasty "Reds" but memories are apparently short in mainstream journalism.


    Answering OP, The British Army has been short on equipment for years. Initial deployments in Iraq didn't even have desert fatigues. Using snatch rovers in Iraq and Afghanistan a disgrace. Radio equipment is 10 years behind what it should be. Still using unsafe Nimrods, using Chinooks with outdated safety equipment. I am sure there are countless other examples.

    Trying to do the world statesman (Imperialism?) on the cheap.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    dooferoaks wrote: »
    I also remember the "plucky" Mujahadeen part funded by the CIA, beating the nasty "Reds" but memories are apparently short in mainstream journalism.

    I remember reading a John Simpson book several years ago ('A Mad World, My Masters') in which he described one journey to meet the mujahideen in in the mountains of afghanistan circa early 1980's while they were fighting the russians. When he got to the location one particular scrawny looking raving islamist was jumping up and down wailing for permission to behead the infidel (simpson).

    Simpson was under protection of his host at the time and so permission was refused. Turns out, years later he recognised the same guy, the raving islamist fighting with the mujahideen who had wanted the prize of beheading a non believer was osama bin laden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    eh the vast majority of the mujahideen evolved into the northern alliance which fought the Taliban?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Whats this?.. Whats all this talk about the brits?.... Christ, there must be some sort of british agenda going on here!!!.. FFS who's started all this bollocks about the dirty stinking imperialistic British Army!

    Oh...McArmilite, is that you? Must have been a bad dream.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭McArmalite


    iceage wrote: »
    Whats this?.. Whats all this talk about the brits?.... Christ, there must be some sort of british agenda going on here!!!.. FFS who's started all this bollocks about the dirty stinking imperialistic British Army!

    Oh...McArmilite, is that you? Must have been a bad dream.:rolleyes:

    :o:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I'm not sure it under-equipment that is costing British lives at all. I think it's the other guys shooting at them.

    Seriously, there seems to be a fallacy that if you have enough equipment you are invincible. Generally in a war people on both sides die. The number of British casualties has been very light in real terms. It's unreasonable of the press to expect all the casualties to be on the other side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Hagar wrote: »
    I'm not sure it under-equipment that is costing British lives at all. I think it's the other guys shooting at them.

    Seriously, there seems to be a fallacy that if you have enough equipment you are invincible. Generally in a war people on both sides die. The number of British casualties has been very light in real terms. It's unreasonable of the press to expect all the casualties to be on the other side.

    it is, however, quite handy when your chief communications officer has been implicated in a phone hacking scandal and you want to get the tabloids back to kicking a prime minister who is already on his knees.

    lots of helicoptors would be great, I'm sure, but at some point soldiers have to get out of them and carry out foot patrols, at this point you can dress them up like robocop and they would still be prone to IEDs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    it is, however, quite handy when your chief communications officer has been implicated in a phone hacking scandal and you want to get the tabloids back to kicking a prime minister who is already on his knees.
    Nail on head Fred, nail on head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I think the point is that equipment does make some difference, though of course they will never be invulnerable. Lightly armoured vehicles offer less protection and are more vulnerable so there are equipment issues.

    A former commander has said repeatedly that without helicopters in sufficient numbers then they become predictable. Once that happens the death toll will increase.

    If they had tried to operate in northern Ireland with more limited helicopter transport that would have invited more attacks increasing the death toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    I heard something on morning Ireland where they read out an officers complaints and it was on two levels. The first was that they were sent out without enough food, water and medical supplies and the second was that they weren't given clear mission directives. They had a retired officer commentating on this and he was shocked at the lack of equipment at such a basic level.

    Doesn't sound good on either front to me.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Lightly armoured vehicles offer less protection

    And offer problems of their own. For five days our entire freaking battalion was wrapped about a single MRAP which was heavy enough to collapse a road, and eventually fell down a cliff. We could do nothing else until we got rid of the bloody thing.

    NTM


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I've just been watching the news coverage of the repatriation of the 8 soldiers and the number of people who turned out to show their respect makes me very proud to be British today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Proud, but extremely saddened. Mods If I may, I'd like to offer my deepest condolences to the family, friends and muckers of these lads.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    if you'd asked me back in 2001 how many will have lost their loves in Afghan by 2009 I'd have guessed a couple of thousand
    so by and large I think the troops are doing a great job
    it's been proven that in a straight up firefight the Taliban haven't a chance
    and it's only through cowardly guerilla tactics like IED's that they can inflict real damage


    it's tragic that eight years on the MOD haven't found a solution to the equipment problems,and i think that the main issues is their refusal to buy most equipment off the shelf,but instead the tinker and modify until they cost twice as much as off the peg versions,and take forever to get delivered...

    R.I.P lads

    the problem is the billions of pounds the brits have to spend each year on social welfare on the 10,000's that flock to england each year.. this is a bill that onbly grows each year ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭BigDuffman


    Ha ha yeah I'm waiting on the Anti-Brit "bomb" to drop at some stage a new leaf per-chance? :p

    Their tactics are logical given their opponents...when out matched and out gunned. Mentalism with a dash ruthless underhanded cunning is how you do the most damage.

    Mainstream Media is a fickle misstress. The whole Afghan saga in relation to media coverage reminds me of Orwell's 1984.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Lorcan 17


    Well the Bristish atm are spending no where near as much on equipment compared to the U.S meaning they have more chance of getting fatalities. So it is a lose lose situation for the government spend money on equipment meaning they have to raise taxes then people moan but when they hear of deaths they moan


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭oncevotedff


    Hagar wrote: »
    Seriously, there seems to be a fallacy that if you have enough equipment you are invincible. Generally in a war people on both sides die. The number of British casualties has been very light in real terms. It's unreasonable of the press to expect all the casualties to be on the other side.

    You're spot on there. It's a problem with modern western societies that people expect to live forever and that every death is a tragedy.
    lots of helicoptors would be great, I'm sure, but at some point soldiers have to get out of them and carry out foot patrols, at this point you can dress them up like robocop and they would still be prone to IEDs.

    Helicopters crash and get shot down too. Also you can't win hearts and minds from 2,000 feet.
    Morlar wrote: »
    Lightly armoured vehicles offer less protection and are more vulnerable so there are equipment issues.

    When IEDs are the problem a soldier is probably safer on foot than in a vehicle.
    Lorcan 17 wrote: »
    Well the Bristish atm are spending no where near as much on equipment compared to the U.S meaning they have more chance of getting fatalities.

    The US has lost 732 dead to date so equipment is not the be all and end all either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    it is, however, quite handy when your chief communications officer has been implicated in a phone hacking scandal and you want to get the tabloids back to kicking a prime minister who is already on his knees.

    lots of helicoptors would be great, I'm sure, but at some point soldiers have to get out of them and carry out foot patrols, at this point you can dress them up like robocop and they would still be prone to IEDs.

    i rthink its more to do with the fact that in afghan when there is a wounded man a heli is needed to air lift him out,, if they heli dosent get there the man dies... The brits have like 8 chinooks in Afghan which have to cover transport,re-supply and medi-vacs... not nearly enough and lives have been lost for the sole reason that the heli took too long to get to patrol becaue there wasnt enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    This is the officer who was talking about lack of basic equipment, food, water and medical supplies and lack of clear, direct orders. His name is Lt Mark Evinson who was killed in May. His mother has released his journal.

    It's long but well worth a read.
    Mark Evison: 'We are walking a tightrope in Afghanistan'
    Lieutenant Mark Evison, who died in May from wounds received in Afghanistan, kept a remarkable journal - published here for the first time - about the harsh realities of fighting in Helmand. His mother Margaret explains why she has set up a foundation to keep his name and achievements alive


    Published: 7:00AM BST 14 Jul 2009

    Comments 76 | Comment on this article
    Mark Evison, who was killed following wounds received in Afghanistan, in May
    Mark Evison, who was killed following wounds received in Afghanistan, in May Photo: MARGARET EVISON

    Brave, considerate, amusing, a talented musician and a gifted sportsman, 26-year-old Lieutenant Mark Evison was rated the best platoon commander in the Welsh Guards by senior officers. To the men in his command their dashing leader was "007". In April, he was sent to Helmand province, Afghanistan. There he kept a journal, a vivid and unique document detailing daily life at the front, from the longing for fresh food to the fear of making the wrong decision. Four weeks later he was dead.


    15 April

    It is always the hardest part to start a journal. Where to begin? Should one start with feelings past or just start from the beginning. As my grandfather once said it is best just to put pen to paper and write.

    Anticipation, excitement, fear – all words which could be used to describe what one should be feeling right now but the only one that I really feel is uncertainty. I am currently sitting under neon lights of a mortar-proof marquee on Kandahar airfield. Due to this the reality of where I am has not yet hit. The only other feeling is that of an emptiness for those that I have left behind. Goodbyes are not the easiest to deal with but one can prepare for some – mothers, sisters, fathers etc. The others are those that catch you unaware. Those that you thought were going to be easy sometimes become harder than the others. I travelled to London yesterday to sort out one final goodbye with a friend which ended up being the hardest so far. My feelings are in turmoil.

    We now fly to Camp Bastion by Hercules and then start the RSOI package [Reception, Staging, Onward-movement and Integration] tomorrow afternoon – I have been warned that it will be death by PowerPoint.

    16 April

    We have now moved fully into Camp Bastion and partaking in the RSOI package. This is a four day live firing package which is mandatory for all who arrive in Afghanistan. It is also a good way to acclimatise and finally try out all the kit we have been issued – including the Osprey [body armour].

    Bastion is a bizarre place. It is situated in the middle of the desert with majestic mountains rising to the North and South approximately 10 km away. Apart from that it is flat and so with the addition of the hesco [sandbag] walls which are 20 feet high gives the feeling of complete isolation within the base.

    It is so powerful that it does not feel like we are in a war zone and only a few kms outside of the walls are people who would want to do you harm. On top of this the food is fantastic – there is a pizza hut and an internet suite which is faster than those at home.

    We were on the ranges today testing our weapons and we met an old acquaintance of mine from school, who has just finished his six-month tour operating as a mobile operations group around the whole of Afghanistan.

    When he asked where I was heading and he found out it was Nad-e-Ali he took a small step back and wished me all the best – in fact this had happened a number of times.

    I can only guess that this is because of two reasons. Firstly, being knowledgeable he really does know it will be tough or secondly that he has heard but is talking a big game.

    Either way, waiting in Bastion is not ideal as at the moment I just want to get stuck in and see for myself what it is like. How will I react with my first contact? Will I freeze or hopefully prove my worth. At the moment it is a waiting game and until that moment comes I can only speculate.

    17 April

    The problem with the Guards is that even when deployed they are still a stickler for rules. I was approached by the Battalion second in command earlier today who stated that I should have not cut my hat down. In earnest I bought it that way and stated my case. He proceeded to walk off muttering under his breath – ''Platoon commanders these days''. It seems that they are more interested in how we look rather than the fact that as a battalion we are soon to be facing the fiercest fighting probably since the Second World War. The men seem prepared to a certain extent but whether they are there mentally will be the deciding factor. I fully expect them to refuse to soldier. If that is the case then how will I persuade them to change. It will be hard.

    On a more positive note I have found the pull-up bar – great success.

    21 April

    I have now reached the front line in the form of FOB [Forward Operating Base] Silab – approx 15 Ks west of Bastion in the Nad-e-Ali district. We moved out of Bastion yesterday and transported the Vikings through the desert to drop down into the Green Zone to reduce the chances of striking an IED [improvised explosive device].

    The Viking vehicle was designed for use in the Scandinavian countries against attack from what was the USSR. Used extensively by the Royal Marines they have been adapted for use in the desert with different tracks, increased armour and more importantly air conditioning.

    We mounted up first thing in the morning and with a few rather nervous passengers, myself included, we left. One very long hour afterwards we rolled into Silab – home for the next few days and my first taste of Afghanistan and the much talked about compounds.

    It is a FOB approx 200m by 100m with 3 x 105 guns attached. Four sangers [sandbag fortifications] mounted 24 hours a day by both Estonians and artillery. The Ops room with internet and facilities lies to the north. I have been placed in a compound further west which although it is further away from the Ops room (a positive) is right next to the gun line and twice now I have jumped out of my skin as they fire with no warning.

    After a day of relaxing and getting used to the difference between Bastion and the FOB I prepared myself for patrol at 08.00 the following morning.

    This included visiting the armoury. Unlike back in the UK where everything is accountable, here once it is handed out it is written off – essentially used up even if not fired. Another point is that here there are many more varieties of weapon systems, some I have not seen or heard of. To that extent after 15 mins in the ammo store I walked out with enough kit to start my own war, including an anti-tank weapon and two red phos grenades, as well as the standard personal ammunition.

    I got an early night and caught up on some much-needed sleep.

    The following morning I rose early, had breakfast and re-checked my kit ready for the 08.00 leave. Having met the platoon commander and getting a brief overview of the patrol, we were to move North along a road with one section moving to the West along compounds which have been used for firing points. We were heading for Green 1, a junction of both road and canal and a point which I was told Taliban used regularly. The first twenty mins were the worst. It is the uncertainty of not knowing when it will happen which plays on your mind. Almost nothing did happen. I am sure that as soon as a contact happens, you soon forget about the sickly fear and concentrate on more important things. We held a mins' shura [consultation, meeting] with three Afghans and moved back to the FOB. It really is true that they have nothing. The children are all smiling with beautiful faces. The men are more guarded and generally stand-offish. However they are willing to talk which goes against all the briefs I have been given.

    The rest of the day has been spent trying to prepare for my move into Haji-Alem, an old smuggling fort that my platoon is taking over on the 24th when they arrive. I have been trying to work out exactly what is and what is not here. This is harder than it seems. Paperwork trails which tend to disappear are commonplace. As it stands I have a lack of radios, water, food and medical equipment. This with manpower is what these missions lack. It is disgraceful to send a platoon into a very dangerous area with two weeks' water and food and one team medics pack. Injuries will be sustained which I will not be able to treat and deaths could occur which could have been stopped. We are walking on a tightrope and from what it seems here are likely to fall unless drastic measures are undertaken.

    On top of this I seem to have hit a wall, feel dreadful and fear I may have a fever. I will speak to mum tonight and hopefully this will cheer me up. I need an early night ready to move out at 09.00 tomorrow with the Estonians.

    26 April

    Haji-Alem. This is the name of the fort that my platoon are now occupying. It was built fairly recently but to the design of an old fort. It is therefore very defendable – four turrets on each corner give excellent views to all compass points and being the tallest building in Nad-e-Ali it is quite imposing.

    The Platoon moved in three days ago, however I only joined them last night. This was because of the fever I had caught days previously. I did move with the Estonians early the morning of the 22nd but after I had reached Haji-Alem and conducted a two hour patrol with the then Platoon Commander I was in all sorts of trouble and so had to move back to Silab with them to recover for a few days leaving X in charge of the Platoon.

    The fever has hit fairly hard – cold sweats, aching limbs and headaches. More importantly it has stopped my appetite and so over the last two days the weight has just fallen off. Now that I am better I need to build this weight up by eating as much as possible. I have been forced to read Jeffrey Archer which I have always vowed I would not. In earnest it is not too bad. He writes well and his stories are imaginative and flow easily.

    26 April

    Whilst I was recovering in Silab, X took the Platoon on their first patrol. To the SW of Haji-Alem are well known Taliban compounds. A place one would not venture to with soldiers who have not been out on the ground and do not know the combat indicators, these come with time etc. He then patrolled towards these compounds at the hottest point of the day. He sustained a heat casualty (who had just come off 5 hours of stag [duty]) and due to this was lucky enough not to walk into an ambush. As it was the patrol was contacted whilst moving back with the heat injury and managed to mortally wound a civilian who died back in Bastion after presenting himself at Haji-Alem and being extracted.

    I am now sitting on radio stag at 06.45 with another glorious Afghan day beating down on us. Not one cloud in the sky. I wonder if they appreciate what a change it is to the normal grey British climate, I doubt it. The fort is now fairly sorted. There are showers (1 a week), a chill out area with BBQ (nothing yet to cook) and a gym. The loos are fairly basic with just a hole in the ground for pissing and an ammo tin for turds which must be burnt by the unfortunate individual who fills it up. We could be here for six months and so it is good to get it up and running to a good standard so the boys can relax etc.

    It is good being back. The Platoon cheered me when I turned up and so for some strange reason I think they must have missed me.

    27 April

    The heat out here is something I have never experienced in my life. Both Oman and Morocco although being of similar intensity feel different. The sun here is just so powerful. By 09.00 the sun is already fairly high in the sky and the power is staggering. The hottest part between 11.00 and 14.00 and then it suddenly drops and is relatively cool by 17.00. I think this can be put down to both altitude and the closeness to the equator. Added to the proximity of the walls within the fort and we have a living oven. There is no respite and it seems the shade makes no difference.

    So we have been confined to the fort for the last two days. Two reasons for this, firstly our ECM [electronic counter-measure] is down and secondary we have been restricted by the commanding officer to patrol out to a maximum distance of 200 m. We are to wait until we have an interpreter with the Icom [radio system/scanner] before we can push out further.

    On a positive, this gives the platoon time to get used to the heat whilst on small patrols.

    We received our first livestock this morning. Sgt X managed using sign language to persuade a local to sell us a turkey for the bargain price of $25. The only problem which could prove to be fairly major is that at the moment ''Terry’’ as the boys have named him seems both averse to biscuit brown and biscuit fruit [rations]. We aim to put him on the BBQ next Sunday night but we don’t want him to lose weight so it might have to be done earlier. Also on that vein how to do the deed – it would seem a little unfair to shoot him and so a knife seems the likely alternative.

    At the moment life is great.

    28 April

    Frustration and boredom is now beginning to kick in. Frustration at not being able to push out as I know I can and boredom for the boys who are spending most of their time on Stag. The poppy harvest is still ongoing and so the Taliban are quiet. They are waiting. If they attack us now they know we will retaliate and they run the risk of alienating the local population. Today two families were seen moving N to S in two vehicles full of kit. This is probably due to the poppy harvest coming to the end but it could be because the Taliban have told them to move out of the area.

    The boys are also beginning to get quite jumpy. With long periods of quiet I expect this is very normal. Soldiers will want to get out there and not allow their imaginations get the better of them. The sniper and Javelin pairs seem to be itching to get their respective weapons employed. I seem to be the only one here who believes that war might not be the answer to this particular problem. We must work on relationships with the Afghanis if we are to build a future for them. Maybe my perspective will change in the next few days and weeks.

    30 April

    The first casualty. Yesterday morning at 10.48 Sgt Fasfous an MFC [mortar fire controller] was on patrol with an OMLT [operational mentor and liaison team] in a joint patrol with an ANA [Afghanistan National Army] North of Gereskh. The call sign was contacted and unfortunately he was killed instantly as well as one interpreter. A captain in the Light Dragoons was seriously injured and extracted by MIRT [medical instant response team] to Bastion.

    It is a blow for the Welsh Guards. He was a very well respected and professional Lance Sgt and will be sorely missed. Breaking the news to the boys was hard. I think reality has now really hit home. X, a childhood friend, has taken the news badly and will need to be monitored closely over the next few days to make sure he is OK. It’s strange to think that I was talking to him only a couple of weeks ago. Life is fragile and out here it feels like it can be removed in an instant. It almost makes life even more valuable and shows the fragility that many in the West I believe do not understand.

    We are now fully up and running within the fort. We received 10 ANA [Afghan National Army] soldiers this morning, with an interpreter and Icom [radio system] scanner. This makes my life a lot easier and a lot more interesting.

    I joined them for a lunch of boiled rice and discussed how they can be integrated within the Platoon whilst on patrol. Already in the few hours they have been here they have pushed out to the neighbouring compounds. The locals are very happy we are here and have given a steer as to where they believe the Taliban to be. The SW is where we will patrol tomorrow and where they believe the Taliban to be.

    The biggest fear I have whilst in the fort for six months is keeping the morale up of the men. Currently we have a satellite phone but as it stands, no way of charging it. On top of that, the CLP [combat logistics patrol] that arrived today did so without the post which was expected. The Company members in Silab with internet terminals and two satellite phones must understand that currently the largest source of morale is from post. All iPods have run out of battery and to arrive with no post is inexcusable. It is a hard life in these forward PBs [patrol bases] and we need all the morale we can get. We are running a fines book which brings the platoon together every night. It is a great way of keeping up morale and hopefully by the end of the tour we should have enough money for a great night out.

    The ANA are an interesting bunch. They earn $200 a month, compared to what they could do if they farmed poppies, $4,000 a month. Many of them fight for blood feuds with the Taliban who have killed family members. All they want to do is kill Taliban and it will be interesting how they deal with being contacted on the ground. Currently they seem rather blasé. They will happily leave the PB [patrol base] without helmet or body armour. They came with various weapon types – Ak 47s [assault rifles], M 16s [rifles], etc as well as what looks like a couple of bagfuls of RPGs [rocket propelled grenades] – could be interesting.

    We are heading out to compounds 24, 22 and 19 tomorrow am, where 7 Platoon were contacted from a week ago.

    1 May

    My first contact. At mid-morning the Platoon moved over the canal towards where they were contacted a week ago. We moved south as a platoon, manoeuvring different sections to always keep one foot on the ground.

    As my lead section were moving S along an irrigation ditch they were contacted by accurate small arms fire. After a short burst, the gunmen whom we stumbled upon fled and with one other tried to flank my call sign. We moved to deny them the opportunity and moved E towards compounds 17 and 13. Once we had checked those we started to move back towards the Platoon location.

    I managed to push my lead section over the bridge but as I did so we came under accurate small arms fire from 4 or 5 firing points. I was pinned down and when a round splashed approximately 2m away my heart was racing.

    The radios were down and so I had no comms with either Silab or the gun line. I therefore had to use my own fire, a Javelin [anti-tank missile], GMG [grenade machine gun] and sniper pair. Two Javelin missiles were fired onto a firing point which eliminated one threat.

    There were now just 7 bods plus myself stuck on the wrong side of the canal. We had to make the decision just to go for it. With a rapid fire from the Platoon we sprinted down the bank, through the canal, back up the friendly bank and then tried to push back into the PB. More luck than anything else saw the platoon safely back behind sturdy walls, laughing at the contact we had just been in. For me it is still the fear of making a wrong decision which sits heavily on my mind. I am responsible for every person within this PB and I fear that we will not always be as lucky as we were today. At least today I proved to myself that I will not freeze the next time I get shot at. I do not expect this to be in the distant future.

    2 May

    Morale seems to go up and down very quickly here. This afternoon we got a delivery of mail. X has written again and I rather unexpectedly got a package from the d’Ambs [family friends] which was very thoughtful. Pickled onion, monster munch, foie gras and a lovely cigar were top of the list. We played deal or no deal which seemed to raise everybody’s spirits, and tomorrow night is – the Army’s got talent.

    However, lack of phone communication is a real dampener. Some of the guys have not been able to speak to their wives or children for three weeks now which is terrible. Although I am bottom of the list I would like to speak to mum, hopefully in the next few weeks.

    3 May

    Good news all around yesterday. The CLP arrived and not only a lot of post but also a generator. Although they had forgotten to fill it with oil, we managed to drain the snatch and use the oil from there to fill the generator. We also bodged a charger for the satellite phones and so hey presto, we now have power to the camp and a line to the outside world.

    Got a parcel from dad consisting of a pot of tea, a bamboo cup, two batteries and a book of the Cathedrals of England – random to the last item!

    It has been fairly quiet here over the last two days. We were in a small contact two days ago that was over fast. Finding the firing points is the hardest part. Without that knowledge I cannot make decisions and am fairly useless. Parang [base] has been hit hard and seem to be in contact most days.

    Around the fort it is hard patrolling country. There is not much cover and therefore movement is restricted. If we move to the SW then extraction back is difficult. There is a canal directly outside which although gives good cover is terribly exposed on both banks and can be covered by at least three or four firing points. Although one must not set patterns, with only two routes into that area it is virtually impossible. There is a definite lack of steer from above as to how to play this one. I am yet to be given a definite mission and clarity as to my role out here.

    7 May

    Our first base attack last night. Parang came under attack at approx 10 pm with one firing point. They returned fire with 50 cal and small arms which from our sangars [sandbag fortifications] was an awesome display of tracer looping like fireflies out to the south and towards compound 17.

    Just when we thought things were slowing down out to the west we came under contact with RPGs [rocket propelled grenades] and small arms. The sangars responded very well with a powerful volley back to the firing points. At last we have been taken on our terms and although I do not think we managed to kill any enemy we would have definitely given them something to think about. Ferooz was again mentioned on the ICOM [radio system/scanner] as the main player instigating the attack. The signal strength was high showing his proximity to the fort. Two other names were mentioned which I recognise from our previous fire fights.

    The most frustrating thing is that they take us on, on their terms. They are very accomplished at moving into firing positions using good cover and it is almost impossible to identify the firing points. I hope with time this will improve.

    Spoke to mum this morning. I hope I have not scared her too much. Although I am sure that she appreciates or rather I think she must appreciate what I am doing out here. Don’t think I should have mentioned the ambush a few days ago – it is hard as the two worlds are so far apart. I hope this journal will help to put things in perspective for those back home who want to read it. The best way of describing it is being on one long exercise with a complete lack of luxuries, and without the knowledge that in 5 days there will be a coach at the gate to take us back to the barracks and the luxuries of bath and bed.

    The flies are uncontrollable. As I write this there are approximately 10 crawling over my legs and an unknown amount swarming over my head. Amazingly once they have disappeared in the early evening they are replaced by another of life’s annoying creatures, the mosquito. They seem to be able to infiltrate any clothing and get into mosquito nets like effective bank robbers. They then spend the next few hours eating their hearts out much to the annoyance of the body lying below.

    I spoke to X yesterday. I don’t know if it is a good idea or not. By speaking to her I depress myself with the knowledge that I will not see her for another four months but if I do not speak to her I miss her terribly. I think it is multiplied by being out here and going from being in contact at the press of a button to having very limited contact with the outside world. Maybe in time this will improve. Why is it that I always fall for girls who are trouble? But if life was easy then it would be easily boring.

    (Mark was fatally wounded by a single bullet in his shoulder during an early patrol and ambush on 9 May. He commanded his men back to safety, and lost consciousness from bleeding within an hour. He never regained consciousness).

    Find out more about the Mark Evison Foundation

    Join the Mark Evison Foundation Facebook group

    © Margaret Evison 2009


Advertisement