Acquiring Network Address

Overheal · 15-07-2009 3:03pm #1

We have a laptop that takes forever to get internet each morning. It can connect to the Local Network easy peasy, but then it hangs on getting a new Network Address for the Web.

Im just wondering is there an easy fix here? Is there a way I can assign the PC a permanent Network Address so it doesnt have to request a new control number everytime it tries to connect?

XP by the way.

PogMoThoin · 15-07-2009 4:53pm

Eh? Your laptop gets a lan ip from Your router, this same ip should get You out. Explain Your situation further, this doesn't make sense unless your public ip is resolving on your laptop

Hal1 · 15-07-2009 5:03pm

Yea, like are you using a vpn etc? explain more.

PogMoThoin · 15-07-2009 7:55pm

Hal1 wrote: »

Yea, like are you using a vpn etc? explain more.

Or dialling pppoe on the laptop?

Overheal · 16-07-2009 2:17am

The Laptop is connecting to a wireless router using WPA TKIP pass.

It connects to the network but wont find the internet for up to 10 minutes most mornings. Possibly longer. Im not the end user. Just the most qualified geek in the office. Has a strong signal. Might be 30ft from the router at worst, with nothing but air between laptop and router.

PogMoThoin · 16-07-2009 11:35am

OK, more info needed,
Whats ip address does it get from the wifi router? Open command prompt in accessories and "ipconfig /all", You'll see it under wireless
Whats the ip of the router? Should be your gateway in ipconfig details
What make wifi router? Is the wifi router connected to another router/modem? Can You login to the router on the gateway above from ipconfig?

Overheal · 17-07-2009 12:51am

day off ill get that to you tommoree'.

Can You login to the router on the gateway above from ipconfig?

Theres an ipconfig command to do what now?

PogMoThoin · 17-07-2009 12:55am

Overheal wrote: »

day off ill get that to you tommoree'.

Can You login to the router on the gateway above from ipconfig?

Theres an ipconfig command to do what now?

Can you use the ip address (192.168.whatever.whatever) given as gateway in the output of "ipconfig /all" in your browser and access the router?

Overheal · 17-07-2009 2:46pm

router setup page im accessing from this vista machine @ 192.168.1.245

But in its ipconfig the gateway is .254

Router setup:
Static IP
-IP: 192.168.2.245
-Subnet: 255.255.255.0
-Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

Faulting laptop:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Rich>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RichLap
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
roller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-C5-AA-B3-45

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-CF-28-5A-CE
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 9:32:14 AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 10:32:14 AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Rich>

Working PC:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : UHAUL-ONE
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Min
i-Card
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-4D-85-01-6A
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b487:e138:776f:e533%12(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.146(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 9:04:53 AM
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 10:34:53 AM
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201335629
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-10-99-62-9E-00-22-19-1A-52-FD

   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : us.dell.com
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controlle
r
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-19-1A-52-FD
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.us.dell.com
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:1cc2:82e:3f57:fe6d(Prefe
rred)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1cc2:82e:3f57:fe6d%10(Preferred)
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{8D033363-9B62-4AAA-810B-5AE2FD547
3DB}
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Windows\system32>

gyah busy.

Exact words are he has to manual connect to the network every morning. Its set for Automatic. It has the password. We set it back to WPA with TKIP, and he is set to connect even if the network is not broadcasting. I figure the next thing to try is lift the security and just switch to MAC filtering.

PogMoThoin · 17-07-2009 3:21pm

The working pc has a static ip.

Is the wifi router plugged into a modem/router? Is there another router that could have the ip ending .245? What happens when You try logging into 192.168.1.254?

Overheal · 17-07-2009 7:16pm

There is a Netopia Router in the Central office which must connect off to the Cable Modem Somewhere. Possibly occupying the 245 cyberspace. You'd have Modem-->Netopia (probably wireless B, disabled broadcast)-->Cat5 to Linksys B/G

254 brings you to the linksys wireless G router we're hooked up to. Not sure about anything to do with the Netopia.

Could the problem be that the Linksys is acting as a Gateway, when it really is not? And under XP, how do I assign the laptop a static IP? Because that would certainly explain the morning wood lag, if its requesting a new IP all the ****ing time.

but like I said, we have 4 other Desktops working just fine.

PogMoThoin · 17-07-2009 7:28pm

Edit: Posted but on a re-read this may not be the case

Whats got the .245 ip address You p[osted earlier?

To give a static ip to Your wireless card go to your Network Connections, right click on the wireless connection, select properties, then select the TCP/IP protocol and click properties. Fill in the static IP address 192.168.1.240 (make sure no other pc has it), subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, and the default gateway of 192.168.1.254. I've picked 240 here just to be random and outside the dhcp address pool which usually starts at 100

Overheal · 17-07-2009 8:12pm

ill give that a shot next time he can lift his screensaver lock

meanwhile heres the data from 2 other desktops

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 11:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.123
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MagnoliaSales
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-FA-61-77

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 11:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter #2
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-E5-A9-AA-E1

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Magnolia Flooring>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MAGNOLIATWO
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 6:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-E5-A9-A1-B2
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.30
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 1:59:49 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 17, 2009 2:59:49 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Magnolia Flooring>

Overheal · 17-07-2009 8:43pm

btw the linksys is the .245 address. and how did you read out that the laptop had a non-static IP? wheres that on the config readout

MarkR · 17-07-2009 8:57pm

I would delete his existing saved wireless networks and start clean. Maybe his autoconnect is trying to access another network first. Make sure the one you want is the preferred network.

Also, are you using the windows wireless tool for connecting, or the wireless card's manufacturer? No harm seeing is there an updated driver for the card too.

Overheal · 17-07-2009 9:55pm

its XPs wizard. Ill add drivers to the ToDo. The saved settings ive wiped a couple times with no luck.

PogMoThoin · 18-07-2009 4:37pm

Overheal wrote: »

btw the linksys is the .245 address. and how did you read out that the laptop had a non-static IP? wheres that on the config readout

Don't make sense, how can it be .245 when its .254. Can You access the Linksys on both ips from your browser? The first Basic setup tab should tell You its local ip address

IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.146(Preferred)

Prefered means static

Overheal · 20-07-2009 8:45pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Don't make sense, how can it be .245 when its .254. Can You access the Linksys on both ips from your browser? The first Basic setup tab should tell You its local ip address

Prefered means static

And im telling ya, I connect to the setup page through .245, the Routers Setup Page reads the IP adress as .245

.254 opens the netopia router, further up the chain. You've got, presumably,

[DSL Modem]
*
*
*
[Netopia.254]********[Office PC Main]
*
*
*
[Linksys.245] ~~~~~~~[Uhaul One .146 preferred]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~[Richlap .102]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~[Sales1 .123]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~[Sales2 .30]

* = wire
~ = Wireless

Still havent updated richlap's driver though or assigned a permanent IP. I'll try to have him let me on there after the Closing Bell :rolleyes: mans mad into his stocks.

PogMoThoin · 20-07-2009 9:15pm

Overheal wrote: »

And im telling ya, I connect to the setup page through .245, the Routers Setup Page reads the IP adress as .245

.254 opens the netopia router, further up the chain.

There could be the problem, 2 routers in the same subnet, both routing. Post a screenie of the setup tab of the Linksys and similar on the Netopia (need to see dhcp settings on both). I suspect u got an ip conflict as lan and wan side ip's can't be in the same subnet on the Linksys, this info's on the first tab.

Overheal · 22-07-2009 2:41pm

yes im being told the Netopia unit is actually the modem (?) buyt also has routing capabilities: its a switch, and has a wifi antenna. However they use the linksys for their hotspot.

images attached.

Overheal · 22-07-2009 3:53pm

Monkey-Wrenched it onto the internet, downloaded the new driver pack, and after a few hiccups, it seems to be connecting smoothly enough. but short breaths. id still like to be ready to hammer out problems on the LAN side of things if it starts acting the shyte again.

PogMoThoin · 22-07-2009 4:50pm

Linksys is an access point, not a router, change the gateway to 192.168.1.254, gateway is wrong

Overheal · 22-07-2009 5:20pm

you mean change the default gateway IP on the linksys to .254?

PogMoThoin · 22-07-2009 5:24pm

Yes, the Netopia is the route out, hence 192.168.1.254

You not see whats happening? the Linksys is trying to get out on 192.168.1.1 which gets it nowhere

Overheal · 22-07-2009 9:40pm

true.

all i know is the way it currently is, it seems to be working. dunnask me how

itll be the next thing i do when something runs foul.

PogMoThoin · 23-07-2009 7:03pm

Think about it, the gateway (ie the way out to the net) has to be the Netopia, 192.168.1.1 doesn't exist. Leaving it blank would be better than a wrong address. Your laptop knows the gateway out is 192.168.1.254, it knows this from the dhcp lease it got from the Netopia, but the Linksys disagrees and tells it the gateway is 192.168.1.1

/gets coat

Overheal · 27-07-2009 2:39pm

well its all working spiffy. thanks man. switched the gateway to 245 for good measure.

now my new problem is the utility on this altogether 3rd computer. WUSB54GC - USB wireless link. The utility shreds the clock cycles. its a 2.7ghz single core. always working. The damn thing juices up 40% of the machine. tried to do without it the other day and while the connection kept dropping using the XP wireless utilities, I at least got the processor back down to idle

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MagnoliaSales
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-FA-61-77

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 11:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter #2
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-E5-A9-AA-E1
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.123
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 27, 2009 9:36:17 AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 27, 2009 10:36:17 AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

Acquiring Network Address

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