The BNP's attitude towards Ireland

Iwasfrozen

junder wrote:

just got my passport renewed, according to that i am British

"British" refers to those from Britain.
Your Passport confirms you as a citizen of the UK but that doesn't mean you're British.

junder

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

"British" refers to those from Britain.
Your Passport confirms you as a citizen of the UK but that doesn't mean you're British.

then what am i, if i am not British?

apoch632

Northern Irish??

junder

apoch632 wrote: »

Northern Irish??

you mean 'Northern Irish' as in coming from 'Northern Ireland' which is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which entitles me to and to which i have availed of, a 'British' passport which clearly states i am a 'British' Citizen and therefore British?

Grudaire

junder wrote: »

you mean 'Northern Irish' as in coming from 'Northern Ireland' which is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which entitles me to and to which i have availed of, a 'British' passport which clearly states i am a 'British' Citizen and therefore British?

I think the term should be changed to 'United Kingdom-ish'

Raskolnikov

Another thread ruined by people playing silly buggers with semantics.

It goes right down there with the assertation that Sinn Féin are Nazi's because they are nationalists, and socialists.

Sand

They are nationalist socialists though, arent they? If you had to describe their viewpoint...nationalist socialism would cover it as elegantly as possible.

DTrotter

apoch632 wrote: »

Northern Irish??

But Donegal is further North than alot of places in the north.

Koloman

junder wrote: »

then what am i, if i am not British?

You are British as most of the mature citizens in this country would see you as such.

It's just the inmature people who say different.

billy the squid

Sand wrote: »

They are nationalist socialists though, arent they? If you had to describe their viewpoint...nationalist socialism would cover it as elegantly as possible.

Nationalist and Socialist is different to National Socialism.

Sand

Only on the level of semantics. Nationalist Socialist is the short hand way of saying socialists who are also nationalist, or people who are socialist and nationalist.

Iwasfrozen

junder wrote: »

then what am i, if i am not British?

Sorry to tell you mate but you're Northern Irish, your political alliance has absolutely nothing to do with your demonym.
It's people in Northern Ireland calling themselves "Irish" or "British" that only serves to fan the flames of hatred.
You and everybody else up north are not Irish or British you are simply Northern Irish and the sooner evrybody realises that the better.

Koloman wrote:

You are British as most of the mature citizens in this country would see you as such.

It's just the inmature people who say different.

Care to back up that point ?

Richard

Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh

It's happening again! Make it stop!

DoireNod

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

You and everybody else up north are not Irish or British you are simply Northern Irish and the sooner evrybody realises that the better.

Completely disagree. How dare you! :eek:

The sooner people like you, who make such claims, drop that idea, the better!

junder

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Sorry to tell you mate but you're Northern Irish, your political alliance has absolutely nothing to do with your demonym.
It's people in Northern Ireland calling themselves "Irish" or "British" that only serves to fan the flames of hatred.
You and everybody else up north are not Irish or British you are simply Northern Irish and the sooner evrybody realises that the better.

Care to back up that point ?

parhaps you should consider joining the BNP, they to like to dicate what peoples national identy is or is not. A point you should consider is since you don't actully know me in person is how can you possiably tell me what my actual national identy is?
As for the BNP as a unionist i have nothing but contempt for them, they are a populist party masking a facist agenda, they are quite happy to morph thier identy into whatever will get them the most votes.

Acacia

junder wrote: »

you think?

That picture is shocking.

It disgusts me to see the Republic's flag sharing space with that vile party's name. They can take this policy (and their other hair-brained schemes) and shove them, excuse my French.

Victor wrote: »

Its some of the enigma that is some racist organisations.

They dislike catholics, immigrants, Irish but they prefer them over "muslim pakis".

It's because Irish Catholics are white, and therefore, ''more okay'' than ''Pakis''. Not quite on the BNP's acceptable list, but, y'know, at least they're not brown or black.

Fratton Fred

Acacia wrote: »

It's because Irish Catholics are white, and therefore, ''more okay'' than ''Pakis''. Not quite on the BNP's acceptable list, but, y'know, at least they're not brown or black.

Or maybe they think there is a market in Ireland for their particular brand of hate.

Raskolnikov

Sand wrote: »

They are nationalist socialists though, arent they? If you had to describe their viewpoint...nationalist socialism would cover it as elegantly as possible.

The SDLP are a nationalist and socialist party. Yet, I've never seen John Hume donning jackboots and calling for the extermination of Jews.

oscarBravo

I don't see this going anywhere useful.