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The "REPLACE EAMONN KEANE WITH GER GILROY" thread

  • 15-07-2009 5:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭


    First off, do whatever background checks you want on me as a person. I am not related to, nor socially, romantically or fiscally involved with Ger Gilroy in any way shape or form.

    I just always felt the guy got a rough deal being axed from the Morning Show to make way for Ivan. Granted, Ivan appears a strong presenter, but I had an awful lot of time for Gilroy. Played the everyman quite well but at the same time was actually a very probing interviewer who seemed to do his backround research and ask decent informed questions.

    This afternoon I was delighted when I flicked through the radio and heard Gilroy (presumably) stand in for Eamonn Keane on the lunchtime show and I have to say it would be a great shout by Newstalk to replace that stuttering gormless buffoon with Gilroy.

    Download today's show if you need proof that Gilroy's presentation of the show, style of questioning and ability to get to the end of a sentence without saying "eh" twelve times is exaclty what the show needs.

    Anyone else agree with me?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    I couldn't take that staccato voiced person for more that two minutes.


    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Where do I sign?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Eh?

    No, well yes to a point, that point being Keanos exit. I don't rate Gilroy much either tbh and find the other fella who sits in at lunchtime perfectly acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    I don't mind Gilroy that much but he doesn't suit this type of show at all, btw what's the story with Keane taking so many holidays is he on a RTE type contract like is self employed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭cashback


    I'd take Gilroy over Keane. Then again I'd also take Barney the dinosaur over Keane.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 fmcgloix


    To be honest I agree with you Neil3030, I thought Ger got a raw deal on the breakfast show. I have to say I dont think the show has been the same without him. As for Ivan Yates I really dont think he is suited to this type of show. I thought Claire and Ger worked well together but the producers just wanted to change the whole format of the show and Ger's accent just didnt fit that format, only my opinion. I cannot listen to keane, no harm to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Keane is a decent enough print journalist. He has a sense of social justice which I admire. But he is a goddamn awful radio presenter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I'm not a huge fan of Eamon Keane. I think he comes across as being very arrogant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭A P


    Gilroy all the way for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    First off, do whatever background checks you want on me as a person. I am not related to, nor socially, romantically or fiscally involved with Ger Gilroy in any way shape or form.

    I just always felt the guy got a rough deal being axed from the Morning Show to make way for Ivan. Granted, Ivan appears a strong presenter, but I had an awful lot of time for Gilroy. Played the everyman quite well but at the same time was actually a very probing interviewer who seemed to do his backround research and ask decent informed questions.

    This afternoon I was delighted when I flicked through the radio and heard Gilroy (presumably) stand in for Eamonn Keane on the lunchtime show and I have to say it would be a great shout by Newstalk to replace that stuttering gormless buffoon with Gilroy.

    Download today's show if you need proof that Gilroy's presentation of the show, style of questioning and ability to get to the end of a sentence without saying "eh" twelve times is exaclty what the show needs.

    Anyone else agree with me?




    most definatley not , metrosexuals cant do current afairs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Obviously Keane is a disaster. The constant forced laugher and occasional faux outrage at different things plus the nauseating banter with 'Gaillimh' and Nell McCafferty, and the belief that any reference to Beverly Flynn or 'Bertie' is funny............appalling stuff.

    But Gilroy is not the answer to anything. Perhaps a sports programme at 2am or something that nobody listens to. It would also spare him ramming sports down everyone's throat in the course of other programmes because it's the only area he knows squat about.

    He has actually improved and does slightly less of the 'woo-hoo' stuff in the background than before, but he does not have the wherewithal to deliver a current affairs programme.

    I have heard him 'grill' politicians (to the praise of texters) on the Breakfast Show but often seemed to be a case of pissing people off for the sake of pissing them off and impressing pissed-off listeners rather than the line of questioning really going anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    We should just rename this the get Eamon Keane out of me face thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    i withdraw what i said last night about ger gilroy , he very gently in his own way allowed that windbag jack o connor tie himself in knots on the lunchtime show today by refusing to allow the bearded one to spin , lie and bully his way through an argument in the face of facts , if only the national broadcaster took the same line with union heads as opposed to the ball tonguing we have to listen to on a daily basis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    In my opinion, John Keogh (I think that's his name anyway) would be perfect for the job. Has impressed me any time he's stood in for Keane.

    I don't care too much for Gilroy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Yep thats the fella I was thinking of, he also has the best speaking voice/modulation of the three mentioned so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    nummnutts wrote: »
    In my opinion, John Keogh (I think that's his name anyway) would be perfect for the job. Has impressed me any time he's stood in for Keane.

    I don't care too much for Gilroy.


    That's true. I was very impressed with John Keogh recently when he ripped apart the PR clown from Ryanair who was on pedalling his average fare bull in order to try to avoid justifying their host of sneaky charges designed to keep the headline charge looking low.

    The like of Gilroy would be in thrall to that guy simply because he'd be seen as anti-establishment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭Slaygal


    I agree with Mike65 and nummnutts John Keogh is excellent. He's fluent, clear, concise and not afraid to grill an interviewee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭robo


    John Keogh is very good, he would be my second choice and then Gilroy. Keane is just smarmy and full of his own importance (not sure why??)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭coopersgreen


    They could replace Eamonn Keane with two hours of white noise and I'd sign up for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    Is the Cork identity keeping Keane in his job? Just beggers belief that he hasn't been replaced sooner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 TheBigGuy


    eamonn keane and ivan yates should both be brought out the back and slapped for being bad at their jobs. Seriously Ivan Yates is a muck presenter he gets flustered at least once every 15 minutes and if i hear him "name dropping" and being a td once more i just stop listening all together.




    get rid of claire and bring back Ger!
    *chants*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I dont know Gilroy or Keane either. Well, I had to remove 9 mpegs of the One Night In Paris video from his laptop one day a few years back, but other than that I've never met either.

    I think he has been doing a great job. I never realised he knew as much about the political stuff, thought that he would be really found out talking to the union heads. But he certainly knows enough to be a very capable stand in. The Jack O'Connor interview was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    start a campaign to get him back on 'off the ball'


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I think Gilroy should get the lunchtime slot he has been much better,Gilroy was very good when he stud in for Dunphy on and off a few years ago.The they changed the format of the breakfast show and it became crap way way to fast,on the lunchtime slot the last week or so Gilroy has had a lot more time for each piece and has come across much better than he did on the breakfast show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Sir Humphrey


    If Gilroy is to do any presenting he needs to be very closely guided because his default mode is tabloid with a capital 't'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭robo


    If Gilroy is to do any presenting he needs to be very closely guided because his default mode is tabloid with a capital 't'.

    But is that not the way all Newstalk presenters are??? Sensationalise everything, it does my head in. They are becoming the Sky News of radio, except they are missing the Breaking News scroll bar on the radio!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Who needs a breaking news scroll bar when you have Eamon Keane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭kenco


    TheBigGuy wrote: »
    eamonn keane and ivan yates should both be brought out the back and slapped for being bad at their jobs. Seriously Ivan Yates is a muck presenter he gets flustered at least once every 15 minutes and if i hear him "name dropping" and being a td once more i just stop listening all together.




    get rid of claire and bring back Ger!
    *chants*

    And did you know he used to be a Government Minister!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭femur61


    I like Eamon Keane and his stand in John Keogh. I did think Ger was good and can't understand why Ivan Yates got the job. I did listen to him chen he stood in for George Hook because I literally can't stand the whining of George.

    I can't get away from the fact that Ivan Yates is a bookie, (not a politician), bookies just leach addictions from the most vunerable. I have seen what gambling has done to families and have no respect for the man


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Keane seems to have some sort of love affair with hacks from the O'Reilly press. Williams, Myarse and Harris all get to spout their BS right wing poison nearly every second day and are never challenged by a fawning Keane. Given that I avoid Sir Tw*ts papers like the plague the last thing I want to here is his third rate minions on radio:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Hmm I hear quite a lot of leftwing bull**** from the likes of Joe Higgins and some of the other so called progressives whose policy is to nationalise everything and stifle all initiative and progression.
    All I seem to hear is negativity from Jack O'Connor and others trying to protect unproductive drones in unsackabale jobs at huge expense to the country.

    Amazing how two people can interpret a programme in such a different way;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Get rid of Keane, put Ivan Yates on the 12 to 2 show and put Gilroy back on mornings. Easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Keane seems to have some sort of love affair with hacks from the O'Reilly press. Williams, Myarse and Harris all get to spout their BS right wing poison nearly every second day and are never challenged by a fawning Keane. Given that I avoid Sir Tw*ts papers like the plague the last thing I want to here is his third rate minions on radio:mad:

    the few right wing commentators we have in this country are more or less banned from the national broadcasters , surely a small private station like newstalk allowing them provide opinion is not to much to ask of the left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭robo


    Agghhhhhh he is back from his holidays :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Hmm I hear quite a lot of leftwing bull**** from the likes of Joe Higgins and some of the other so called progressives whose policy is to nationalise everything and stifle all initiative and progression.
    All I seem to hear is negativity from Jack O'Connor and others trying to protect unproductive drones in unsackabale jobs at huge expense to the country.

    Yeah cos the rightwing free-marketeers have done such a great job with the Irish and other economies:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Yeah cos the rightwing free-marketeers have done such a great job with the Irish and other economies:rolleyes:

    Like the Soviets decided yonks ago that their system was a failure.

    grubby little people in grubby clothes,living in grubby accomodation eh?

    Sounds like that scenario is attractive does it pal?

    Left wing wasters in Govt. jobs, fully sinecured and programmed to disrupt any shred of initiative ain't the answer pal.

    I have listened to several radio programmes over the week end and not one shred of initiative has come from Higgins who just keeps pushing out the same auld outdated rubbish, so popular amongst non achievers, and wasters.

    He was on Newstalk Sat am I think and the utter mindless rubbish he was spouting in that pedantic delivery busted my buns big time.

    I am not taken in by that left wing stupid propaganda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Like the Soviets decided yonks ago that their system was a failure.

    grubby little people in grubby clothes,living in grubby accomodation eh?

    Sounds like that scenario is attractive does it pal?

    Left wing wasters in Govt. jobs, fully sinecured and programmed to disrupt any shred of initiative ain't the answer pal.

    I have listened to several radio programmes over the week end and not one shred of initiative has come from Higgins who just keeps pushing out the same auld outdated rubbish, so popular amongst non achievers, and wasters.

    He was on Newstalk Sat am I think and the utter mindless rubbish he was spouting in that pedantic delivery busted my buns big time.

    I am not taken in by that left wing stupid propaganda.

    You don't appear to know the difference between socialism, stalinism etc. Corrupt forms of capitalism are just as bad as corrupt forms of communism etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Hmm... What I do know is the difference between a waster and a worker though.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Great idea. I heard Gilroy standing in for Keane and found the show very enjoyable. I've always liked Ger Gilroy, especially on the Breakfast show. I'm not a big fan of Eamonn Keane but dont have the hate that a lot of people do, but nonetheless would prefer Ger to take his place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 sneakers


    deadhead13 wrote: »
    Keane is a decent enough print journalist. He has a sense of social justice which I admire. But he is a goddamn awful radio presenter.

    His 'sense' of social justice is completely tied in with making sure that he's portrayed as the champion of the people, the leader of the little guy, the man the nation can't do without. He's a populist who's more interested in his own image than with dealing with any substantive issues. And unlike the other Eamon that he seems to model himself on, he is a goddamn awful radio presenter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    I don't know how I got myself into a position of defending Eamon Keane. He has a background in social work and can be good on issues relating to the marginalised in society. He covered the Ryan Report fairly well, I'm thinking particularly of an interview he did with Mannix Flynn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 sneakers


    deadhead13 wrote: »
    He has a background in social work and can be good on issues relating to the marginalised in society. He covered the Ryan Report fairly well, I'm thinking particularly of an interview he did with Mannix Flynn.

    Like most self-interested people, they're not all bad. And while it's true that Keane does champion the marginalised from time to time, just like Dunphy he makes sure that his espousals prioritise his own role as flag-waver-in-chief. And yes, he did cover the Ryan Report fairly well, but let's be honest it wasn't too difficult a challenge to get incensed about its contents. It's a bit like Dunphy interviewing rabid Bible-belt right wingers; easy pickings.

    Where he falls down dramatically is in the less obvious stuff: a few weeks ago he let Stephen McNamara of Ryanair off the hook when he claimed that Dublin Airport have the highest charges of any airport served by Ryanair, thereby justifying O'Leary's tired old claim that the DAA are just a bunch of extortionists and that Ryanair are trying to do well by the rest of us. Keane went along with this enthusiastically, and never once suggested to McNamara that Dublin Airport charges are cheaper than most other capital airports, and that comparing it to all of the provincial airports that Ryanair fly into (including Stansted, which is provincial compared to Heathrow or Gatwick) is just ridiculous.

    And that's my anti-Ryanair rant over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    I don't mind Keane. The number of ads they try to cram into an hour though is totally ridiculous. Most items are too short because they need to 'go' for an ad break.

    Sometimes within 3 minutes I hear an ad break - then 2 texts read out and 30seconds of 'coming up after the news.' - then another ad break.

    It is insane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 sneakers


    I don't mind Keane. The number of ads they try to cram into an hour though is totally ridiculous. Most items are too short because they need to 'go' for an ad break.

    Sometimes within 3 minutes I hear an ad break - then 2 texts read out and 30seconds of 'coming up after the news.' - then another ad break.

    It is insane.

    That's a station-wide problem and the result of running a commercial radio station that is entirely dependent on advertising for its revenue stream. Music stations have the same issue, but we don't notice it as much when it's just songs - when it's chat, or an attempt at news analysis, ad breaks just break up the flow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Indeed. But I find it is at it's worst during Keane's show. I don't think it's quite as bad in the morning, or during Hook, and you can get a good discussion going on off the ball before they break for ads.

    Plus Keane's show has the meteor jingles to pull some revenue in.


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