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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Are you only discovering Souky now? The game is awesome. Amazing soundtrack as well. The third stage when you was flying through the clouds is one of my all time favourite shmup levels.
No, I'd played it years ago but didn't recognise it from the artwork.
Had to stick the disc in and then had the "oh yeah" moment
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Back into playing Mischief Makers. Again it makes me miss Treasure games.
Their games are always so mechanically focused. They build their games around mechanics that tend to be really strange and weird but loads of fun and very deep. And there's never anything else that plays like their games. And then they just build levels around crazy level design concepts.
Mischief Makers really has a Bangai-O feel to it were every level seems to have been slapped together in a homebrew editor and logic and story are thrown out the window in favour of making something that's fun and exciting. It's near nintendo levels where every level introduces some new idea which is then abandoned in the next level for something else that's bizarre and suprising. Saying that it's not as polished as the best mario games.
Most levels are pretty sort and easy but there's a bit of longevity added as there's a hidden yellow gem on each level to find and it also tasks you with getting a good A rank time in every level to get everything in the game. It's typical for N64 design at the time were so few games of note were released on the system that they had a lot of extra challenges and collectibles to add replayability. It really works here though.
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No, there's a jump button alright. You use the c-buttons then to dash in different directions. It's a tough game to get your head around which is why half the first world is a tutorial. The dash mechanics are weird as well as you have to alternate dashing up and to the side to dash while retaining as much height as possible.
Mischief makers is a game designed around the N64 pad, it's why I got a tribute 64 which is a hori mini rip off. It works for the game but it's not as nice to use as the original pad for this game.
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The Wii gets a bad rap because of all the shovelware but a system should be celebrated for all the good games on it and the bad ignored. If you rate the Wii that way it's a fantastic machine with a library of exclusives and oddities that puts to shame consoles like the N64 or PS4.
If we judged systems on shovelware the PS2 would be the worst console ever.
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »Approximately 75% of the PS1 and PS2 games are Simple 2000 or Mahjong games.
They did give us Earth Defence Force and..... The Sniper 2.
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Anyone see that new Dreamcast game Xenocider yet? It's a Space Harrier clone.
I can't get over the name. I know they were going for a 'Xeno' version of the word 'Genocide' but it just came out sounding like a brand of cider made by aliens.
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Beat Broken Sword. Been playing it on and off the last few weeks. It's a great game but doesn't quite live up to the lucas arts classics. The directors cut adds some new puzzles and sections involving Nico but they don't add a whole lot to the story.
As for Mischief Makers. I was just ride missiles through a maze, using a magic bag to mix up different combinations of items and now in an area with the NPCs giving out to a hotel manager for their bad accommodation and now it's turned into a track and field clone. This game just has inventiveness and fun coming out of its pores.
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Well that was hilarious, I let out a loud groan at the idea of having to do Carnival Night Zone again now in Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Finished act 2 in three minutes 'Wtf????!'
Apparently when you play the level as Knuckles it goes from being the longest level in the game to one of the shortest
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The bosses in Mischief Makers are giving me a lot of trouble. They aren't so bad as the game gives you loads of health to play with but if you are going for a yellow gem run you have to beat them with an A - Rank time and also beat them again without taking a hit to get a yellow gem. They really come into their own when doing this. However there is a snag for me. The Tribute 64 pad is fine but the tiny d-pad just isn't up to the fine movement required for this game. Had a bitch of a fight with Cerberus alpha (apparently the hardest yellow gem in the game, although a later boss is supposedly almost as bad) and I've lost numerous runs because Marina ended up looking the wrong way when grabbing a missile or grabbing upwards instead of forwards during a crucial throwing oppurtunity.
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Started Monkey Island 2, the remake. Have to say it's quite nice looking and while the music isn't quite iMuse they make a decent stab at it. I played this back in the day but never finished it. It's a lot tougher than Broken Sword but also a lot better written.
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Regarding Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic and Knuckles can have very different routes through levels. Even Sonic 3 has areas that are in the original game but blocked off until you combine the carts. Also have very different end areas and end sequences. It's worth beating S&K with Sonic and with Knuckles. Sonic in particular has are really great last battle if you beat the game with all chaos emeralds and super chaos emeralds.
I forget how the game changes with Tails
Sonic CD is a game I just don't get. If feels like an amiga game developed in Germany rather than a Sonic game. You have 'explosion in the asset factory' level design (I'll be using this instead of airplane hanger design from now on).
Apparently you don't play it like a normal sonic game, it's more about exploring the levels... according to DF retro and people that like it. You are meant to explore the level, go back in time, destroy the evil machine thing then travel into the future which will now be the good future.
It has some interesting ideas, there's four versions of each level effectively and it's the closest to Sonic 1 as it uses that games engine rather than Sonic 2. And the music is really good no matter what version you play. I like the JP and US soundtracks and it's a great mix of redbook audio and chiptunes, the Mega CD had an awesome soundchip that we didn't hear enough of as a chiptune chip. I want to go back and try it myself sometime with a different approach to the game.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Regarding Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic and Knuckles can have very different routes through levels. Even Sonic 3 has areas that are in the original game but blocked off until you combine the carts. Also have very different end areas and end sequences. It's worth beating S&K with Sonic and with Knuckles. Sonic in particular has are really great last battle if you beat the game with all chaos emeralds and super chaos emeralds.
Groan
Maybe I'll be a bit more enthusiastic after a few weeks break from Sonic. One thing's for sure, I won't be beating it with the chaos emeralds. I detest the bonus stages in all Sonic games bar the first one (Sonic 2 I can bear, but those red/blue sphere levels can go and jump.)Sonic CD is a game I just don't get. If feels like an amiga game developed in Germany rather than a Sonic game. You have 'explosion in the asset factory' level design (I'll be using this instead of airplane hanger design from now on).
Apparently you don't play it like a normal sonic game, it's more about exploring the levels... according to DF retro and people that like it. You are meant to explore the level, go back in time, destroy the evil machine thing then travel into the future which will now be the good future.
It has some interesting ideas, there's four versions of each level effectively and it's the closest to Sonic 1 as it uses that games engine rather than Sonic 2. And the music is really good no matter what version you play. I like the JP and US soundtracks and it's a great mix of redbook audio and chiptunes, the Mega CD had an awesome soundchip that we didn't hear enough of as a chiptune chip. I want to go back and try it myself sometime with a different approach to the game.
Interesting. So is there a 'bad' future and a 'good' future, depending on what you do or don't do in the past? How is the time travel handled, ie, do you have to trigger it, or find it?0 -
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I ended up liking the Sonic 3/S&K chaos emerald stages, but then I was a sicko that played loads of them when you locked on the Sonic 1 cart!
It's not too bad and you can cheese it with the save system. In S&K it's actually possible to get them all in the first Stage. The last Sonic level is pretty neat.
As for Sonic CD, there's past, present and future stages with a good future if you destroy the machine in the past. The levels have sign posts labelled with the time/era that you activate by running past and you change era by gaining enough speed and holding that speed for a few seconds.
Apparently getting all the chaos emeralds is an alternative way to get the best ending as it turns all futures to the good future.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »As for Sonic CD, there's past, present and future stages with a good future if you destroy the machine in the past. The levels have sign posts labelled with the time/era that you activate by running past and you change era by gaining enough speed and holding that speed for a few seconds.
Apparently getting all the chaos emeralds is an alternative way to get the best ending as it turns all futures to the good future.
I ended up watching the DF Retro on Sonic CD, very much worth the watch (as is so much of their content, I'm a genuine John Linneman fanboy
). The concept sounds pretty good actually, save the past to save the future etc. For anyone interested...
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I ended up watching the DF Retro on Sonic CD, very much worth the watch (as is so much of their content, I'm a genuine John Linneman fanboy). The concept sounds pretty good actually, save the past to save the future etc. For anyone interested...
Sonic CD has always been a guilty pleasure, for me. A very enjoyable game. Here's a really nice upscale of the intro that was recently released...
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Had a 'whats this music' moment while viewing that, seems that was the US version while the JAP/EUR versions are the same?Sonic CD has always been a guilty pleasure, for me. A very enjoyable game. Here's a really nice upscale of the intro that was recently released...
SonicCD was great, I think Ciderman might have bought it for me in the mid'90s
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