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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Videogames biggest myth is that Contra on the NES is actually a hard game. The 30 man code really isn't needed at all.

    I sat down to play it at 1.30 and on my first go had gotten to the stage 7 the second last level. A few more goes (mostly because the NES exclusive stages 6 and 7 are quite tough) and I eventually had it beat at 2.30 and didn't use a credit on my final run through. I actually found the game a breeze compared to most other NES titles.

    It's still a classic though!

    G92AB.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I'm on the final round of missions in IL2 - Birds of Prey. They Gerry's are surrounded in Berlin, victory, shall me mine. Tally ho!

    Only Blazing Angels 1 & 2 left, that should leave me all WW2'd out till next Christmas' viewing of Saving Private Ryan.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Do you have "Secret Weapons Over Normandy"?
    The one made by Totally Games, the company behind X-Wing and Tie Fighter?
    It's all kinds of awesome, not much a sim mind you but lots of fun.
    It is getting hard to track down, however, although I have seen it going for less than a tenner in Gamestop, on occasion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    This is a genre of game I always mean to try out more. The only flight sim type game I really ever play is Propeller Arena on the DC.

    Tried Microsoft Flight Sim X when I got my new lappy a few months ago and jesus christ, it was comical to watch. Took me an age to figure out how to take off. When I finally did, my plane had this constant urge to try and crash.

    Blazing Angels 1 & 2 look pretty nice, think I'll give em a go.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I don't like the Blazing Angels games at all, they feel like they are all about the looks but the gameplay was missing.
    Don't know why I dislike them so much, just do :(
    Ace Combat games are a bit like "point the crosshairs here and press the action button" but they look great, the HAWK games stick like week old nappies.
    See if you can "procure" the Flight Unlimited games, the first one might be hard to run these days but the 2nd and the 3rd are great and act as map packs for each other, the visuals are spectacular, or at least were when I bought them, and you can fly a seaplane so no messing about with runways!
    Warhawk on the PS2 is good fun, nice flying action there, only problem is when you are forced to use ground vehicles and they're are universally dung.
    Jet de Go looks like fun, I think it's on the PSP, Densha De Go but with planes.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Meh, console flight sims. Only decent one there is Flight Unlimited. What you need is some Tie Fighter, X-Wing Alliance and Freespace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    What I was getting at more were PC based flight sims. Stuff with complex controls. There's a place for console games like Air Combat, but I wouldn't mind trying something with a bit more realism.

    A while back I was interested in getting one of those head tracking headsets as apparantly it works with Microsoft Flight Sim X. VR in a cockpit just sounded too cool.

    That dream soon died though when I actually tried to play the damn game :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's almost closer to Afterburner than a flight sim, but played the demo for the most recent Ace Combat game and its actually good cheesy fun. I see it's reduced already everywhere, so may have to pick it up for some ludicrous dogfights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Meh, console flight sims. Only decent one there is Flight Unlimited. What you need is some Tie Fighter, X-Wing Alliance and Freespace.

    Zero interest in anything set remotely in the modern era. I like the character of the WW2 era, & the planes etc. Also the good games have re-enactments of the real historical battles, I think IL2 does anyway.

    What console is Flight Unlimited on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    What I was getting at more were PC based flight sims. Stuff with complex controls. There's a place for console games like Air Combat, but I wouldn't mind trying something with a bit more realism.

    A while back I was interested in getting one of those head tracking headsets as apparantly it works with Microsoft Flight Sim X. VR in a cockpit just sounded too cool.

    That dream soon died though when I actually tried to play the damn game :D

    There's a steep learning curve when you go down the sim route. I remember about two years or so ago I got fairly proficient with MS Flight Sim X & flew a 737 from Paris to Dublin in real time. I'd say supply of sick bags needed to be replenished but I did it :o

    A decent flight stick is a must, using sims with a keyboard is a complete waste of time.

    There's also these incredible home-made cockpit rigs that heavy duty sim'ers build, at great cost I'd say but how fecking awesome are these!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    EnterNow wrote: »
    What console is Flight Unlimited on?

    Only on PC.

    Ace Combat also has the best QTE ever:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Saw a guy, back in '97, heading into a cybercafe with a pilots shirt, complete with epaulettes, and a whole bunch of rolled paper maps under his arm.
    Turns out he was in a virtual airline and was due to fly, in real time, to London, with ground and airtraffic controllers, the lot!

    People
    Are
    Mental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Saw a guy, back in '97, heading into a cybercafe with a pilots shirt, complete with epaulettes, and a whole bunch of rolled paper maps under his arm.
    Turns out he was in a virtual airline and was due to fly, in real time, to London, with ground and airtraffic controllers, the lot!

    People
    Are
    Mental.

    Says the man with a giant Mario standing watch at his front gates :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Do they still call them Cybercafes?
    Don't think so.
    Now they seem like small, sweaty shops selling online time to emigrants getting their Starcraft 2 fix...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I'm on the final round of missions in IL2 - Birds of Prey. They Gerry's are surrounded in Berlin, victory, shall me mine. Tally ho!

    Only Blazing Angels 1 & 2 left, that should leave me all WW2'd out till next Christmas' viewing of Saving Private Ryan.

    And Berlin is free. Peace once again, returns to mainland Europe.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It was probably touch and go there for a while Enternow..
    Makes you wonder what the Allies would have done without you!!

    I wonder if it's like The Last Starfighter?
    Is a time door going to open and you are going to be recruited into some sort of temporal flying corp?
    Send us a postcard last week to let us know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    It was probably touch and go there for a while Enternow..
    Makes you wonder what the Allies would have done without you!!

    I wonder if it's like The Last Starfighter?
    Is a time door going to open and you are going to be recruited into some sort of temporal flying corp?
    Send us a postcard last week to let us know!

    Well by now that postcard should be pretty old, have a look in your storage areas for a postcard from a dashing young pilot surrounded by broads entitled:

    Dear Ciderman

    Whatever you do, don't play Doom!

    Regards
    Flight Lieutenant E. Now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Just having a bash of Soul Calibur on the iPad 2. It just came out so I said I'd give it a go. It's fairly decent I have to say, for an iOS fighter.
    Controls are about as good as can be expected but can be moved anywhere on-screen and you can even change the opacity which is nice. Rumour has it iCade support is coming as well which will add to it. Seems to be running at a solid 60fps as well.

    Bit pricey at €9.99 but I loved the game on the DC so said feck it.

    Few pics and vids(sorry if pics are big but I'm posting direct from the iPad):


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    soul2.png





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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Or, controversially, just get it on the DC!
    Just thought I'd throw that one out there, revolutionary I know [/sarcasm]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Or, controversially, just get it on the DC!
    Just thought I'd throw that one out there, revolutionary I know [/sarcasm]

    It's what Dr. King would have wanted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Or, controversially, just get it on the DC!
    Just thought I'd throw that one out there, revolutionary I know [/sarcasm]

    But they always look at me weird when I try to hook up my DC while in the plane :D

    Seriously though I of course have it on the DC and that's the best way to play it. I even have a DC setup in my candy with some hacked pad and that's a thing of beauty.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Conkers Bad Fur Day (N64), what's not to like about a foul mouthed squirrel :D

    Pricey though, cart cost about the same as all the others combined..


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Conkers Bad Fur Day (N64), what's not to like about a foul mouthed squirrel :D

    I don't know? The fact that all the humour is just ripping off scenes from films and the humour never gets above the level of fart jokes and is really poorly written? That and the game is kind of rubbish. One of the most over rated games ever for me.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Steve SI wrote: »
    But they always look at me weird when I try to hook up my DC while in the plane :D

    Seriously though I of course have it on the DC and that's the best way to play it. I even have a DC setup in my candy with some hacked pad and that's a thing of beauty.

    .

    Very nice sir.

    drooling_homer-712749.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I don't know? The fact that all the humour is just ripping off scenes from films and the humour never gets above the level of fart jokes and is really poorly written? That and the game is kind of rubbish. One of the most over rated games ever for me.

    But but but its got toilet humour and a squirrel that swears (I'm easily amused). Ah its a relief from the more mainstream oh-so-serious stuff that's so common place now.

    Anyone else to scared to play Dead Space ?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Don't mind grumpy old Retr0, Conker is great fun, a real tonic after the mess of Donkey Kong 64. Some fun voice acting as well, at a time when the industry was in its infancy.
    The movie piss takes were all fun and it was quite explicit that this was the case. I particularly had fun in the Matrix and the country barn


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I'm pretty sure the argument of 'Conker's Bad Fur Day = The Scary Movie of gaming' has been had elsewhere on this thread, so I won't repeat it :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The height of Bad Fur Day humour:

    Oh look, he farted. Except he's a squirrel!
    Oh look it's singing. Except it's a ****!
    Oh look it's hungover. Except it's a squirrel!
    Oh look Saving Private Ryan. But with Squirrels!
    Oh look the Matrix. But with Squirrels!

    Even the kind of clever fourth wall breaking moment at the end of the game isn't funny because of such poor delivery and writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Oh look! It's Retr0 giving out! But with Squirrels!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,832 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Why you hatin' on squirrels retr0? All those damn hedgehogs hogging the attention.

    funny-pictures-say-anything-squirrel.jpg


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Haters gotta hate....

    It's an improvement on the "stick googly eyes" approach to character building Rare usually take.
    And it's a lot more fun than Retr0 thinks too.
    The Poo song is a work of art, or is that fart?
    The business with the horny bee.
    The Shaving Ryans Privates pastiche.
    The "context sensitive" gag

    It takes the likes of Mario 64 and takes the piss, and does it well imho.
    I mean, sure, the humour is, at times, literally toilet humour but I liked it.
    I have the N64 cart, finished it, and the Xbox revision as well.

    I wonder, if most of the people who have played it have actually played it all the way through, or is it just Youtube clips? ;)

    Oh, giving the cows the squits is fun too!

    Really, it is mostly derivative, in the same way that most 3D platformers since SM64 are derivative.
    Go there, flick the switch, make the platform rise, collect this many of that to get the door to unlock etc, no different here but the visuals are very nice and it is done with a nice attention to detail, check out the Dracula level, and gives different gameplay in different levels.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Ugh, the context sensitive gag that they dragged out for what felt like 10 minutes long after it had stopped being unfunny and got annoying because all you wanted to do was play the fupping game and not listen to terrible jokes. CBFD has no right to have a lame go at Ocarina of Time because it's crap. It's as bad as the DNF taking the piss out of Dead Space and Halo.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Videogame writing and pacing at it's ****tiest:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse



    Anyone else to scared to play Dead Space ?

    So I'm not the only one ! Ed turns on all the lights...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Filled with confidence after absolutely thrashing Contra I decided to see what other NES games weren't as hard as they are let on to be. So I started Ninja Gaiden. It really is a walk in the park, you've plenty of energy, the bosses are easy.... Nah I'm lying. Fuck Ninja Gaiden. I'm currently tearing my hair out at stage 5-3.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well there it ****ing is. On the last stage composed of 4 of the hardest stages ever devised Ninja Gaiden, a game filled with more dick moves than any other videogame ever, pulls videogamings biggest dick moves. When you die on the last boss instead of restarting at the beginning of the last stage you are kicked back to 6-1. I feel like crying.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Finally beat. The last boss is just unreal. The first form isn't too tough. However it's the second form that's the problem. Not only does he have one of the most horrible and hard to avoid attack patterns in any game ever there's also a bug in the game that completely dicks you over. When you get to this guy no matter how many lives you have, if you die you are sent right back to 6-1, even if you have lives yet. So it means ever 30 minutes or so you get one shot at this guy and it will take you a good 10-15 goes to figure out a pattern and then a good 10-15 more to actually take him down. There's another boss afterwards but he is a pushover.

    So how did I manage to beat it so quickly? I used save states for the last boss after repeating 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 too many times. **** it, that's just too much bull**** to take.

    As for the difficulty, screw contra, this is the real deal. However Contra is fair in its difficulty, Ninja Gaiden is a whore. It actually uses its bad programming in the level design to dick you over. If an enemy spawn location is right at the edge of the screen it will constantly spawn in every time you will kill it. So the asshole level designer made some jumps later on that use this for some of the most horrible obstacles you'll ever see in gaming. Play it and once you hit 5-X, 6-X you'll understand.

    I enjoyed it but I never want to play it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Finally beat. The last boss is just unreal. The first form isn't too tough. However it's the second form that's the problem. Not only does he have one of the most horrible and hard to avoid attack patterns in any game ever there's also a bug in the game that completely dicks you over. When you get to this guy no matter how many lives you have, if you die you are sent right back to 6-1, even if you have lives yet. So it means ever 30 minutes or so you get one shot at this guy and it will take you a good 10-15 goes to figure out a pattern and then a good 10-15 more to actually take him down. There's another boss afterwards but he is a pushover.

    So how did I manage to beat it so quickly? I used save states for the last boss after repeating 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 too many times. **** it, that's just too much bull**** to take.

    As for the difficulty, screw contra, this is the real deal. However Contra is fair in its difficulty, Ninja Gaiden is a whore. It actually uses its bad programming in the level design to dick you over. If an enemy spawn location is right at the edge of the screen it will constantly spawn in every time you will kill it. So the asshole level designer made some jumps later on that use this for some of the most horrible obstacles you'll ever see in gaming. Play it and once you hit 5-X, 6-X you'll understand.

    I enjoyed it but I never want to play it again.

    I salute you. That is one tramp of a game. I got to 5x before & had enough, must go back and attempt the unattemptable


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retr0gamer wrote: »

    And I really enjoyed that stuff!
    If you simply don't like the writing or the pacing then fine but I thought it was just fine, the cut scenes were part of a very much story driven game.

    Also, might I add, that thing is rendered on the N64, not the later Xbox version, and looks mighty fine too.
    Again, it's easily on par with the Banjo games, but with more variety, and it's streets ahead of DK64.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I salute you. That is one tramp of a game. I got to 5x before & had enough, must go back and attempt the unattemptable

    5-x is when the game starts to get absolutely hair pullingly hard. I think I'll play the japanese version of ninja gaiden 2. 5 credits to beat the US version? **** right off.
    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Also, might I add, that thing is rendered on the N64, not the later Xbox version, and looks mighty fine too.
    Again, it's easily on par with the Banjo games, but with more variety, and it's streets ahead of DK64.

    That is one thing I'll give it credit for, it's technically impressive and despite not using the ram expansion it looks like it really should be using it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    So how did I manage to beat it so quickly? I used save states for the last boss after repeating 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 too many times. **** it, that's just too much bull**** to take..

    Boo! That doesn't count :p

    Fair play to you man, it's a bitch of a game alright. A mate of mine (with a really short temper) had it when we were kids. In the end he got so angry that one day he threw his NES down the staircase.

    I don't know how, but the console still worked fine afterwards.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,036 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Word of warning to people trying Ninja Gaiden. If you want to take the last boss on and some of the trickier sections of the last stage you are going to need a very good d-pad. I was playing on the Wii with the pro controller but the d-pad wasn't up to it but switching to th Wiimote on its side was much better. The last few stages require some awkward wall climbing that just isn't possible with a **** controller.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    The controls in Blazing Angels are absolutely horrific. Coming from Battlestations Midway & then IL2, these new controls are unplayable I'm finding. Such a shame, they've made the game worse than it could have been.

    There's no rudder control, only a roll direction :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭pdbhp


    EnterNow wrote: »
    The controls in Blazing Angels are absolutely horrific. Coming from Battlestations Midway & then IL2, these new controls are unplayable I'm finding. Such a shame, they've made the game worse than it could have been.

    There's no rudder control, only a roll direction :mad:

    You should try play it on the Wii, christ the controls blow big time on Wii


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Playing a bit of Disposable Hero on the CD32 today. I was trying out a new CD32 I got last week and decided to play 5 mins of this, 2 hours later still at it.
    If the pixels/screen look a bit weird/different its because I was playing on a trusty Commodore monitor from 1982(I just love how the pixels look on this thing). Still works perfectly after all these years and the picture quality is just mental for such an old screen. Pics don't do it justice.

    Click the pic for the monster full size image(retro pixels, Mmmmm):
    dherob.jpg

    .


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    That looks delicious esp the bigger image. Thank god retro monitors and CRTs have solid build quality to last this long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,894 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    That looks delicious esp the bigger image. Thank god retro monitors and CRTs have solid build quality to last this long.

    Yeah, they're tough as nails. I picked this up a few years ago from a guy on adverts or buy and sell(cant really remember).
    He'd spray painted it black. But I've learned to live with it and at least it hasn't yellowed :D


    Edit:

    More retro pixel goodness(click the pic for the full size version).
    dhero2s.jpg

    The pixels do look very weird up close, but I like the effect.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    I'm whizzing through Sonic CD and Sonic Generations concurrently. I'm finding Generations to be a bit more engaging, not to say I'm not digging CD, but am left with the slight impression that a lot of its luster can be attributed to the fact it was a standout title on a relative flop of a platform.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Loved the review of Sonic Generations on Zero Punctuation, very funny...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Played a bit of Mr. Gimmick today via the wonders of emulation. Retr0 is right about it, it's 'bastard hard'. But I can see its a rewarding game if you put the effort into it, graphics & soundtrack are as amazing as they are made out to be.

    Also tried Dirt 3 on the pc today. It's actually pretty damned good.


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