So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

CiDeRmAn

Retropolis wrote: »

No, skate is what makes the game so good! Backward kicks running the lot!.

Hmm.....
My ban hammer grows thirsty....

Retropolis

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Hmm.....
My ban hammer grows thirsty....

What ya saying ya don't like the greatest game ever

o1s1n

Retropolis wrote: »

What ya saying ya don't like the greatest game ever

His videogame tastes leave a lot to be desired

SOR2 is beat em up bliss. Beautiful game.

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

His videogame tastes leave a lot to be desired

SOR2 is beat em up bliss. Beautiful game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

murphyebass

Can not get enough of Lylat wars of late.

Tank mission nice break from the flying action imo

We all like in game pics right...














And lastly...

MrVestek

murphyebass wrote: »

Can not get enough of Lylat wars of late.

Tank mission nice break from the flying action imo

We all like in game pics right...

Well I'll be the one to say it...

DO A BARREL ROLL!

murphyebass

Achilles wrote: »

Well I'll be the one to say it...

DO A BARREL ROLL!

Was talkin to my brother about playin it again earlier and the first thing he did was stop me and said Do a barrel roll.

I was watching the comparison vids on YouTube earlier n64 v 3ds version and as much as I love the n64 version I have to say the 3ds version looks class. Would nearly make me buy a 3ds.

Is there any word on a new version of the 3ds comin out? Maybe one with a 2nd analogue stick so you don't have to stick it on and a better battery life maybe?

Mr.Saturn

murphyebass wrote: »

Was talkin to my brother about playin it again earlier and the first thing he did was stop me and said Do a barrel roll.

I was watching the comparison vids on YouTube earlier n64 v 3ds version and as much as I love the n64 version I have to say the 3ds version looks class. Would nearly make me buy a 3ds.

Is there any word on a new version of the 3ds comin out? Maybe one with a 2nd analogue stick so you don't have to stick it on and a better battery life maybe?

There's rumours circulating that a Lylat Wars sequel is on the cards for tomorrow's Nintendo Direct. Though there's no comment whether we're talking 3DS or Wii-U.

CiDeRmAn

It'd have to be Wii U, something to buoy up the systems rep.
The poor machine has a pitiful games library and not that much to look forward to right now.
Could it be the first Nintendo hardware to truly tank since the VB?

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Could it be the first Nintendo hardware to truly tank since the VB?

Not a chance. They said the same about the 3DS. You'd swear a console with a poor launch year was the exception rather than the rule going by the sensationalist games journalism.

Mr.Saturn

Well, no. Like the Gamecube, if the Wii-U runs into proper trouble, all Nintendo have to do is halt production, throw some IPs out there, and it's turning a profit.

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Not a chance. They said the same about the 3DS. You'd swear a console with a poor launch year was the exception rather than the rule going by the sensationalist games journalism.

I guess the worrying thing is the apparent lack of 3rd party support from the likes of EA, no Battlefield 4, no Need for Speed etc.
And the idea that the WiiU is selling at a low rate previously unseen.

Are first party IP releases enough to get folk to buy the machine?

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I guess the worrying thing is the apparent lack of 3rd party support from the likes of EA, no Battlefield 4, no Need for Speed etc.
And the idea that the WiiU is selling at a low rate previously unseen.

Are first party IP releases enough to get folk to buy the machine?

It worked for the N64, GC and Wii.

Did anyone actually buy a WiiU so they could play the same games they can play on the 360 and PS3?

Reamer Fanny

Playing Super Punch Out for the SNES at the moment

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It worked for the N64, GC and Wii.

Did anyone actually buy a WiiU so they could play the same games they can play on the 360 and PS3?

Well, the GC and Wii were served with editions of EA staples throughout.
The WiiU may get the same but the announcements that it won't do justice to the current intended releases for the PS3 never mind the PS4 and new xbox.

And for the more typical gamer who owns one console, the statements by certain developers would make one either stick with their current machine or wait for the next gen option.

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Well, the GC and Wii were served with editions of EA staples throughout.
The WiiU may get the same but the announcements that it won't do justice to the current intended releases for the PS3 never mind the PS4 and new xbox.

You really don't buy a Nintendo console these days to play the 3rd party stuff as Retr0 said. It's all about unique titles & 1st party stuff. EA are well catered to on other formats, & being a launch day 3DS owner, this apparent lull in Wii U titles is far from shocking. The 3DS wasn't worth owning for at least a year, I'd say the same will be said of the Wii U. It's only been out for six months don't forget.

Retr0gamer

The PS4 and Next Box line ups will be shockingly poor for the first year as well.

valleyoftheunos

I think a Poor first year is to be expected for all consoles and handhelds these days. i agree that the purpose of owning an Ninty machine has shifted, I now only expect to play first party stuff and quirky titles that use the different capabilities of Nintendo's machines, If I wanted to play CoDBlOps I wouldn by a nintendo,

CiDeRmAn

I think you guys are missing the point.
Ultimately most of us are going to buy any given Nintendo hardware that's released, limited editions and foreign oddities not withstanding.
We are not the market that Nintendo needs to sell to if they want to make profits.
They need to sell to the new market they opened up with the Wii itself.
They need to sell to the existing market that doesn't give a fig about a Super Mario Galaxy update, but want to play the latest blockbuster releases from the various devs.
And we're not just talking about Call of Gun-W@nk either, we're talking of Bioshock Infinite, Dishonored and the like.
These releases will insure that, when it is time to buy a new console, that the WiiU is considered to be a viable alternative to the PS3, 360 and hopefully the PS4 and Xbox Infinity.
The latter two are guaranteed great support from worldwide software development and publishers, we'll see Capcom, Valve, EA, Konami and the rest releasing to the Sony and MS consoles as a matter of course, as well as the systems own exclusives.
The WiiU looks like it'll be exclusives all the way, but while this is cool for fans of existing Ninty IP it looks like it means the WiiU will be locked out of the next gen of software from some of the big hitters.

Sure, the WiiU will probably be a source of gaming experiences not found on any other console, but will that be attraction enough for the average gamer to choose the platform over MS and Sonys offerings?

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The WiiU looks like it'll be exclusives all the way, but while this is cool for fans of existing Ninty IP it looks like it means the WiiU will be locked out of the next gen of software from some of the big hitters

The Wii U won't, & can't be directly competing with the next gen machines, to put it bluntly, the Wii U hardware was outdated before it even came out. The console, like recent Ninty offerings, will play to different strengths than the others do. Alongside the PS4 & Next Box, the Wii U will look like the Wii did beside the 360 & PS3...there'll be no comparison power wise, it'll be demolished. The way around that is, to not compete directly. & play to other strengths, which is likely what they'll do

johnny_ultimate

Since I started full time work, Im finding my motivation for gaming has shot way down. Luckily, two superb (non retro) titles are drawing me back in.

Fire Emblem Awakening is a seriously excellent take on strategy gaming. A bit of Disgaea here, a bit of Persona there, and a whole heap of Advance Wars (plus, naturally, Fire Emblem past). A compelling, challenging game that demands to be played with perma-death on, even if it requires a restart or two.

Persona 4 Arena, meanwhile, is a tightly honed fight that welcomes both newcomers and fighting fan enthusiasts alike. As someone who has never had a knack for the genre, the game is built to teach you the basics well, and the basic fighting mechanics are diverse but easy to pick up. The game flows beautifully in motion - fun, exciting and intense. Then you go into challenge mode with its insane combos and realise you're actually ****.

cloud493

Zelda twilight princess the wii one - Love it. Loved it back in 2006 when I was 13, love it now. For a launch game specially(technically a launch game, I know), its incredible.

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point.
Ultimately most of us are going to buy any given Nintendo hardware that's released, limited editions and foreign oddities not withstanding.
We are not the market that Nintendo needs to sell to if they want to make profits.
They need to sell to the new market they opened up with the Wii itself.
They need to sell to the existing market that doesn't give a fig about a Super Mario Galaxy update, but want to play the latest blockbuster releases from the various devs.
And we're not just talking about Call of Gun-W@nk either, we're talking of Bioshock Infinite, Dishonored and the like.
These releases will insure that, when it is time to buy a new console, that the WiiU is considered to be a viable alternative to the PS3, 360 and hopefully the PS4 and Xbox Infinity.
The latter two are guaranteed great support from worldwide software development and publishers, we'll see Capcom, Valve, EA, Konami and the rest releasing to the Sony and MS consoles as a matter of course, as well as the systems own exclusives.
The WiiU looks like it'll be exclusives all the way, but while this is cool for fans of existing Ninty IP it looks like it means the WiiU will be locked out of the next gen of software from some of the big hitters.

Sure, the WiiU will probably be a source of gaming experiences not found on any other console, but will that be attraction enough for the average gamer to choose the platform over MS and Sonys offerings?

The market Nintendo are after aren't into those games though. I mean it's nice to have a few third party games but you'll buy them for xbox and PS3 because that's where your friends list is. Nobody buys a nintendo console for third party games. Even johnny casual buys it for the kids or for wii fit.

CiDeRmAn

cloud493 wrote: »

Zelda twilight princess the wii one - Love it. Loved it back in 2006 when I was 13, love it now

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The market Nintendo are after aren't into those games though. I mean it's nice to have a few third party games but you'll buy them for xbox and PS3 because that's where your friends list is. Nobody buys a nintendo console for third party games. Even johnny casual buys it for the kids or for wii fit.

But the GC wasn't satisfied to cater for kids and Mr and Mrs Casual, they were aiming for both the Ninty fanboi, the gamer and competed for market share with Sony and MS.
The Wii and it's casual fanbase is new, the Wii should have been as attractive to Johnny Gamer as a PS3 or a 360, but it wasn't to be, very quickly it became the console you owned as well as owning one of the other two.
Surely the hope with the WiiU was to negate the need to invest in a PS4 or Xbox and instead hope to sell to the aforementioned Johnny Gamer.

I mean, Retr0, I bet you're not releasing your debut game on the WiiU!
'Nuff said!

valleyoftheunos

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point.
Ultimately most of us are going to buy any given Nintendo hardware that's released, limited editions and foreign oddities not withstanding.
We are not the market that Nintendo needs to sell to if they want to make profits.
They need to sell to the new market they opened up with the Wii itself.
They need to sell to the existing market that doesn't give a fig about a Super Mario Galaxy update, but want to play the latest blockbuster releases from the various devs.
And we're not just talking about Call of Gun-W@nk either, we're talking of Bioshock Infinite, Dishonored and the like.
These releases will insure that, when it is time to buy a new console, that the WiiU is considered to be a viable alternative to the PS3, 360 and hopefully the PS4 and Xbox Infinity.
The latter two are guaranteed great support from worldwide software development and publishers, we'll see Capcom, Valve, EA, Konami and the rest releasing to the Sony and MS consoles as a matter of course, as well as the systems own exclusives.
The WiiU looks like it'll be exclusives all the way, but while this is cool for fans of existing Ninty IP it looks like it means the WiiU will be locked out of the next gen of software from some of the big hitters.

Sure, the WiiU will probably be a source of gaming experiences not found on any other console, but will that be attraction enough for the average gamer to choose the platform over MS and Sonys offerings?

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The market Nintendo are after aren't into those games though. I mean it's nice to have a few third party games but you'll buy them for xbox and PS3 because that's where your friends list is. Nobody buys a nintendo console for third party games. Even johnny casual buys it for the kids or for wii fit.

I think Retro is dead right here, Nintendo knows that it is has two two types of consumer, Gamers who love Nintendo franchises and will by the hardware for access to that software and then more casual family based consumers who are happy to play Carnival games and the liek 5 times a year. Neither of those groups will by Major 3rd Party releases for a nintendo machine.

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

But the GC wasn't satisfied to cater for kids and Mr and Mrs Casual, they were aiming for both the Ninty fanboi, the gamer and competed for market share with Sony and MS.

The GC tried to cater to everyone but the only games that sold on it were exclusives or else games like Soul Calibur 2 which was better on GC. The third party games didn't really get a look in. With EA not making games for the WiiU they've already lost that market but if they concentrate on the other markets they will be fine.

Anyway the high level games market seems like something of a big risk. When you have games like Tomb Raider failing to turn a profit after near 4 million sales, something really isn't right. It might be for the best that nintendo steer clear of that market.

Alsoin japan the home console market is effectively dead. Handhelds are the future with the home consoles only really appealing to the hardcore otaku market.

cloud493

Who buys a nintendo console for the 3rd party stuff anyway? :pac:

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Surely the hope with the WiiU was to negate the need to invest in a PS4 or Xbox and instead hope to sell to the aforementioned Johnny Gamer.

Not a hope in hell. Thats like saying the Wii was gonna negate the need to buy a PS3 or 360. Nintendo have created an isolated bubble outside of the main competition for themselves in recent years. It's the only way they can weather the storm that sent Sega packing.

The Wii U will be inferior to the PS4 & Next Box in every conceivable way, there's no way it can steal consumers away from either brand. What it can do though, is offer something different...& that's where it'll {eventually} come into its own.

CiDeRmAn

I just had a lovely couple of hours playing r type 3 on the Snes, it's the Pal modded console so I can start a game like the aforementioned then switch it to 60hz and get full screen!
Also played Parodius Da! Super Parodius and the gameboy version of it via the Super Gameboy.
All good!

murphyebass

Just started Zelda OOT for the first time.

.... Awaits backlash.

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o1s1n

murphyebass wrote: »

Just started Zelda OOT for the first time.

.... Awaits backlash.

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Prepare to be bored and underwhelmed.

.... awaits backlash :pac:

murphyebass

o1s1n wrote: »

Prepare to be bored and underwhelmed.

.... awaits backlash :pac:

Controversial I would imagine. We'll see.

It'll be a lenghty process though as I'll only get to play it for twenty mins now and then.

Probably finish it some time in 2015. Lol

o1s1n

It's very of it's time. I can see how people were blown away by it. Don't think it holds up too well these days though.

cloud493

o1s1n wrote: »

It's very of it's time. I can see how people were blown away by it. Don't think it holds up too well these days though.

:eek: You wash your mouth out sir.

megaten

o1s1n wrote: »

It's very of it's time. I can see how people were blown away by it. Don't think it holds up too well these days though.

I played it a year back and enjoyed what I played but didn't feel the need to finish it. Mind you that describes how I feel about almost every Zelda game.

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

Prepare to be bored and underwhelmed.

.... awaits backlash :pac:

Whether you agree or not it's one of the very best games ever made, unlike Metal Slug.

Playing some Zero Wing on the Nomad this evening, really like it. Looks excellent and great soundtrack. Might see about tracking down the pcb some day.

o1s1n

Groundbreaking, important, a milestone - all these things, that it is.

I just don't think it's stood the test of time really. It's enjoyable, it just feels very baron. Like you're walking around a tech demo.

We've really advanced so much in 3d, free roaming exploratory games that going back to something like that is difficult.

I've never really played Zero Wing much beyond watching the great intro, must give it a bash some evening.

OwaynOTT

o1s1n wrote: »

It's very of it's time. I can see how people were blown away by it. Don't think it holds up too well these days though.

Kinda like goldeneye or like most n64 games.

Andrew76 wrote: »

Whether you agree or not it's one of the very best games ever made, unlike Metal Slug.

Playing some Zero Wing on the Nomad this evening, really like it. Looks excellent and great soundtrack. Might see about tracking down the pcb some day.

Was playing road rash 2 and sonic 1 on my own. Only two that worked.

o1s1n

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Kinda like goldeneye or like most n64 games.

Yep! Spot on.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Was playing road rash 2 and sonic 1 on my own. Only two that worked.

An Everdrive is really a must purchase for them.

cloud493

But it does hold up! :mad: If anything, its better, since when I first played back when I was very young, I didn't appreciate it, now I do.

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

Groundbreaking, important, a milestone - all these things, that it is.

I just don't think it's stood the test of time really. It's enjoyable, it just feels very baron. Like you're walking around a tech demo.

We've really advanced so much in 3d, free roaming exploratory games that going back to something like that is difficult.

I've never really played Zero Wing much beyond watching the great intro, must give it a bash some evening.

At a technical level, there's no doubt all 3d games suffer more than other genres against the march of time, PC games included. But I personally don't think that detracts from the experience when you're taking about a great game. It would be like a car fan saying the Aston Martin DB9 is a bit crap because it's not as fast as a Vanquish, or Senna's sublime 1988 McLaren is duff compared to the latest Red Bull. Great classic cars are still great, same for games and most things actually.

Zero Wing defo worth a play. What other good MD shmups are there? Other than Eliminate Down, Gynoug, Musha and maybe Raiden. Did R-Type ever get a port? Must see what Hellfire is like again, didn't fancy it the first time I played it.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Was playing road rash 2 and sonic 1 on my own. Only two that worked.

I presume you just need to get the region mod done to sort that. When you get the screen mod it'll be like a different machine again, massive difference.

CiDeRmAn

Zelda OoT, I finally finished it in its 3ds incarnation and loved it.
I have it on the N64, GC and the GC Zelda promo, never finished it on any of them!
But the graphical update on the 3DS makes the great gameplay and design shine through.
Majoras Mask, as a side story to the main time line is still impressive, and that includes the N64 original as well as the GC and Wii ware editions.

But I do think you are being unnecessarily hard on OoT.

Zero Wing is great alright, have you own Nomad with me today, plus my Everdrive, must have a blast.
Kerbdog put a complete MD collection onto it too, but no Gley Lancer!

OwaynOTT

Screen mod, region and battery mod. Owning a nomad is a lot of responsibility and I didn't know what I was getting into. Should have got a game gear to warm me up.

CiDeRmAn

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Screen mod, region and battery mod. Owning a nomad is a lot of responsibility and I didn't know what I was getting into. Should have got a game gear to warm me up.

Well, the screen and region mod can be done at the same time, just order the parts and our friendly neighbourhood soldering iron jockey could be convinced to come out of retirement to do the work for you!
The battery mod is simple, just order the appropriate camcorder battery and an old rechargeable Nomad power pack and you can do the surgery yourself, I did and it worked out fine despite my lack of experience.
Then you'll be on the pigs back!

OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Well, the screen and region mod can be done at the same time, just order the parts and our friendly neighbourhood soldering iron jockey could be convinced to come out of retirement to do the work for you!
The battery mod is simple, just order the appropriate camcorder battery and an old rechargeable Nomad power pack and you can do the surgery yourself, I did and it worked out fine despite my lack of experience.
Then you'll be on the pigs back!

where would one order the parts for the screen mod?

Myrddin

OoT in the same league as Goldeneye? Does forum even have any mods??

Retropolis

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Screen mod, region and battery mod. Owning a nomad is a lot of responsibility and I didn't know what I was getting into. Should have got a game gear to warm me up.

You should of its a better handheld.

Waits for the backlash

CiDeRmAn

EnterNow wrote: »

OoT in the same league as Goldeneye? Does forum even have any mods??

Yeah, I thought it was some sort of crazy talk too.
Zelda OoT really is a masterpiece, even if the visuals leave something to be desired at times, mostly they're just fine.

o1s1n

Andrew76 wrote: »

At a technical level, there's no doubt all 3d games suffer more than other genres against the march of time, PC games included. But I personally don't think that detracts from the experience when you're taking about a great game. It would be like a car fan saying the Aston Martin DB9 is a bit crap because it's not as fast as a Vanquish, or Senna's sublime 1988 McLaren is duff compared to the latest Red Bull. Great classic cars are still great, same for games and most things actually.

Ah I know man, and I'd never rag on a game on a technical level if it still plays well... and I'm not saying OOT is a bad game (It's not) I just find it very empty of, well, things. It needs far more NPCs and things dotted about the world. It feels empty.

Andrew76 wrote: »

Zero Wing defo worth a play. What other good MD shmups are there? Other than Eliminate Down, Gynoug, Musha and maybe Raiden. Did R-Type ever get a port? Must see what Hellfire is like again, didn't fancy it the first time I played it.

Thunderforce III and IV, Gleylancer, Slap Fight, Gaiares, Verytex... there are loads of them It's like the Saturn for crap loads of shmups. Nice list here

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/genesis/the-sega-genesis-megadrive-shmup-library