Players who will flop/fade in the 09/10 PL season...

Morzadec

We have a thread on players to watch out for in the Premier League, so how about this one? Any predictions on a big signing that will flop, or an established big-name player who will lose their place?

(Hoping in advance this doesn't turn into solely a Man City/Tevez/Adebayor bashing thread...)

population

Owen

Morzadec

population wrote: »

Owen

Hope you're right...

I have my doubts though, I still think he has a bit to offer

CHD

All United's, Liverpool and Arsenal's best player's i hope.

everdead.ie

I have a gut feeling villa's petrov is going to fade this year.
Delap as well.

RasTa

Man City

Morzadec

I'm pretty sure Giggs won't win Player of the Season next year anyway. But it will be interesting to see how much a role him Scholes and Gary Neville play in the team next year...

Wouldn't be too surprised to see Neville being pretty much a non-entity by the end of the year.

Another situation that it will be interesting to see develop is the Carra/Agger/Skrtel situation in Liverpool. Injuries, suspensions and the amount of games Liverpool play will possibly give them enough games to keep them all happy, but Carra looked a little bit shaky and it's only a matter of time before Skrtel and Agger make the CB spots their own. Not sure if that will be this season though, possibly a few years down the line.

TonyD79

Glen Johnson......he will use the same excuse as David James---video games!!!

babel2

Adebayor-overrated
Tevez-energetic but never really produces anything
Drogba-also overrated
Glen Johnson-had one good seasn=not consistent=flop

Morzadec

I'm a Liverpool fan so it's probably obvious that I'd come out with this, but have to say I disagree with the Glen Johnson prediction.

Royale with Cheese

Stephen Ireland may struggle to recreate his form in a new look City side.

babel2

Morzadec wrote: »

I'm a Liverpool fan so it's probably obvious that I'd come out with this, but have to say I disagree with the Glen Johnson prediction.

you hardly agree that he was worth 17-18m?

PHB

Tevez

Seriously, I think its possible he'll end up not playing enough games and replicate the form he showed for United last year.

CHD

babel2 wrote: »

Adebayor-overrated
Tevez-energetic but never really produces anything
Drogba-also overrated
Glen Johnson-had one good seasn=not consistent=flop

Drogba overrated? lol sir, lol.

Morzadec

babel2 wrote: »

you hardly agree that he was worth 17-18m?

No, but I hardly agree with any of the prices in football today. In the current market in fact 18m is what you would expect to pay.

United signed Carrick for a similar fee a few years ago which at the time seemed ridiculously inflated. Many people (myself included) ridiculed this transfer. And United fans will tell what a difference he made to their side. He was pretty much their only signing that summer as far as I remember, and United went from 3rd to 1st. Obviously there were a huge amount of other factors that played into this (Ronaldo blossoming etc...), but Carrick did improve the team.

Likewise I think Johnson will improve the team. There are very few good right-fulls around.

The fact is you have to overspend to achieve success I feel. Arsenal are about the only recent side I can think of that would prove the exception to this rule.

Do I think we overspent on Johnson? When not taking into account a lot of the crazy spending this summer, then I would have to say yes.

Am I glad we overspent on him? Most definitely.

Warper

Carragher, Adebayor, Owen and Berbsie

Sir Gallagher

Van Der Sar

babel2

Morzadec wrote: »

No, but I hardly agree with any of the prices in football today. In the current market in fact 18m is what you would expect to pay.

United signed Carrick for a similar fee a few years ago which at the time seemed ridiculously inflated. Many people (myself included) ridiculed this transfer. And United fans will tell what a difference he made to their side. He was pretty much their only signing that summer as far as I remember, and United went from 3rd to 1st. Obviously there were a huge amount of other factors that played into this (Ronaldo blossoming etc...), but Carrick did improve the team.

Likewise I think Johnson will improve the team. There are very few good right-fulls around.

The fact is you have to overspend to achieve success I feel. Arsenal are about the only recent side I can think of that would prove the exception to this rule.

Do I think we overspent on Johnson? When not taking into account a lot of the crazy spending this summer, then I would have to say yes.

Am I glad we overspent on him? Most definitely.

i agree with almost everything you said. Carrick's transfer fee was over-priced an he did make a difference, however, he plays in the vital centre midfield role. Of course he is going to have a major part to play in their success if the ball will mostly go through him,scholes or anderson.
But saying that Johnson will have a similar effect for Liverpool from his right-back position is quite laughable.
18m is hat you expect to pay for a midfielder, not for a right back which max is 11m.

Unearthly

Malouda who was great for the 2nd part of last season will struggle with new management and Zhirkov fighting for his place.

I think Nani will be having his last ever Man Utd season.

Carragher to continue his decline.

Ashley Young to have a poor season. No reason, just having a guess for a laugh.

Max Power1

Tevez, Adebayor, S. Ireland, Glen Johnson

OPENROAD

Adebayor and Ireland .

Eire-Dearg

Hmm...

I've a gut feeling Owen will fade away after a while, but not without a goal here and there.

Mitch Connor

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Hmm...

I've a gut feeling Owen will fade away after a while, but not without a goal here and there.

sure with all the stuff people have said about him over the last two years, he can only improve his image/reputation at this point, surely?

If he doesn't have any sort of impact people will say it is what was expected.

Esse85

Gerrard
Carrick
Nasri
Mikel

Jayob10

Gareth Barry
Nemanja Vidic
Kenwyn Jones
Kevin Doyle
Robbie Keane
Antonio Valencia

deisedevil

Why do people think Ireland will fade? Has he not been getting consistently better? Why would he get worse now, is it because he will have more talented players to play with?

Royale with Cheese

deisedevil wrote: »

Why do people think Ireland will fade? Has he not been getting consistently better? Why would he get worse now, is it because he will have more talented players to play with?

Because he'll be playing in a largely new team. Largely new front 6 anyway. Might make things difficult for him.

Also he could just have had one good season and revert back to being average. Happened to plenty of players in the past.

Morzadec

Personally I think Ireland will maintain his form from last year, and if City start to gel he could even kick on.

Some very bold predictions being made... Gerrard, Torres? :eek:

Morzadec

Jayob10 wrote: »

Jack Rodwell
Christian Benitez
Ebanks Blake
Kightly
Berbatov
Palacios
Torres
Eduardo
Alex
Tomkins
Eagles
Collison
Robinho

In fact I would disagree with a huge amount of players on this list

GLaDOS

Jayob10 wrote: »

Jack Rodwell
Christian Benitez
Ebanks Blake
Kightly
Berbatov
Palacios
Torres
Eduardo
Alex
Tomkins
Eagles
Collison
Robinho

Yet your FF team is

Sorensen
Hart

Faye
Zhirkov
Warnock
Foley
Cahill

Gerrard
Arshavin
Kuyt
Kightly
Jimenez

Ebanks-Blake
Benitez
Torres

Diabhal Beag

Eduardo
Cattermole
Kenwyne Jones
Voronin
Caicedo
Nani
Di Michele
Elano
Nasri
Adebayor
Obertan

Jayob10

Morzadec wrote: »

In fact I would disagree with a huge amount of players on this list

and i mistakenly misread the title of this thread

that is actually my list of players to be a success.

how much of an epic fail was my first post in the football forum eh??

Mr Alan

ha ha welcome on board!

CHD

Jayob10 wrote: »

and i mistakenly misread the title of this thread

that is actually my list of players to be a success.

how much of an epic fail was my first post in the football forum eh??

Nice save

razorblunt

Terry
Agbonglahor
Scotland

Royale with Cheese

I think Eduardo would have to be fairly awful next season to be considered a flop. Afterall, his foot was hanging off his leg 18 months ago.

rossie1977

babel2 wrote: »

18m is hat you expect to pay for a midfielder, not for a right back which max is 11m.

bosingwa cost 17m, daniel alves upwards of 31m

gucci

I think Adebayor and Santa Cruz deals wont work out too good at Man City.

Seaneh

I can't understand how so many people can be saying Stephen Ireland will struggle because of the new signings?

they will only make his life easier by taking up better positions and giving him more options. Ireland is, IMHO, still City's most important player, if anything he will move on leaps and bounds and establish himself as one of the best midfeilders in Europe!

eirebhoy

Yeh I don't think Ireland will be flopping. He's not a player to have many poor games. In fact I think the recent Man Utd game when Fletcher man marked him was the only time I've seen him mess up. If Man City are on form Ireland will definitely be on form. Last season he was even playing well when City were poor.