WSOP 2009 Hall of fame Inductions - Who would you pick?

Mellor

Its all a bit pointless really.

j10spades

bing bang blaow

Flushdraw

phantom_lord wrote: »

* Stood the test of time

he trounces dan is all of those categories.

Wouldn't quite go that far on this one. He's not even 23 yet.

Irish Iron

Flushdraw wrote: »

Wouldn't quite go that far on this one. He's not even 23 yet.

exactly.



they should give it to amarillo slim and apologize for all the bull****

phantom_lord

Flushdraw wrote: »

Wouldn't quite go that far on this one. He's not even 23 yet.

idk, he has been beating high stakes for years, that's a much bigger test, and a solid sign of longevity imo.

phantom_lord

anyway, ivey should be the clear winner here.

The C Kid

phantom_lord wrote: »

anyway, ivey should be the clear winner at anything ever

FYP.

corkie123

phantom_lord wrote: »

The criteria they will consider in their vote are as follows:

* A player must have played poker against acknowledged top competition
* Played for high stakes
* Played consistently well, gaining the respect of peers
* Stood the test of time

he trounces dan is all of those categories.

how can u say that were durr has been playing 4 maybe 5 years against a player who has proven himself over 20 odd years or more and still able to play with the best of them . when durr been around as long as dan and not broke then u can compare them better :rolleyes::rolleyes:

phantom_lord

corkie123 wrote: »

how can u say that were durr has been playing 4 maybe 5 years against a player who has proven himself over 20 odd years or more and still able to play with the best of them . when durr been around as long as dan and not broke then u can compare them better :rolleyes::rolleyes:

uh, he's been playing nosebleeds all those years, while iirc dan has played mostly low stakes live games and tournaments. durrrr has made many times over what dan has, playing in the toughest games around, he's proved himself alot more in those 4/5 years than dan has in his 20.

Jesus Wept

Harrington has probably made a few pounds from the books, Durr should write a book.

H8GHOTI

Has this actually anything to do with the WSOP?

Durr is an amazing cash player but hasn't done much in the WSOP (yet)

corkie123

phantom_lord wrote: »

uh, he's been playing nosebleeds all those years, while iirc dan has played mostly low stakes live games and tournaments. durrrr has made many times over what dan has, playing in the toughest games around, he's proved himself alot more in those 4/5 years than dan has in his 20.

haha what a joke hes been very lucky with his nose bleeds .look in 10years time if durrrrrr still around and still not broke i might agree with u . we had players like durrrrrr for a few years who are done and dusted now . some like johnny lodden are making a come back now with poker stars . only for stars he was ****ed .

so i cant see how just because he winning his nose bleeds now that it makes him a better player than dan . if he last 10 or more years then we decide

ps brian townends was the god few years ago what is he now ?

phantom_lord

corkie123 wrote: »

haha what a joke hes been very lucky with his nose bleeds .look in 10years time if durrrrrr still around and still not broke i might agree with u . we had players like durrrrrr for a few years who are done and dusted now . some like johnny lodden are making a come back now with poker stars . only for stars he was ****ed .

very lucky? over that time frame?

so i cant see how just because he winning his nose bleeds now that it makes him a better player than dan .

uh, it's pretty simple. if he beats the best in the world it's safe to assume that he's better at dan. what exactly has you so enchanted by dan anyway?

ps brian townends was the god few years ago what is he now ?

he's still doing v well. fwiw durrrr was around way before townsend was the sensation and is still top years after.

eagle eye

phantom_lord wrote: »

uh, he's been playing nosebleeds all those years, while iirc dan has played mostly low stakes live games and tournaments. durrrr has made many times over what dan has, playing in the toughest games around, he's proved himself alot more in those 4/5 years than dan has in his 20.

All those years. FFS he is a kid and 5 years is nothing.

When he is still a top player in 15 years time come back to me and I'll certainly agree.

Greenstein, Harrington, Seidel, Nguyen and Sexton are deserving at this stage imo.

phantom_lord

5 years is a very long time at nosebleeds imo.

mdwexford

corkie123 wrote: »

ps brian townends was the god few years ago what is he now ?

Um he was 4 tabling 200/400 PLO last night so im guessing hes still a very good high stakes pro and not busto like you seem to be implying.....

cuterob

phantom_lord wrote: »

5 years is a very long time at nosebleeds imo.

5 years ago he was playing $6 dollar sit n go's

eagle eye

phantom_lord wrote: »

5 years is a very long time at nosebleeds imo.

Getting into a hall of fame is about a lifetime of achievement. The amount of hands you have played or the fact that you played at incredibly high levels are not what gets you there. Why not have Gus Hansen in there? He has been around longer than Tom Dwan and has played nosebleed levels all through too.

Imo a hall of fame nomination is about recognition of what you have done over a long period of time, like 20+ years in poker at the very least.

Pabloh

Why can't I vote for Matt Damon??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM

Fix imo!
:mad:

phantom_lord

eagle eye wrote: »

Getting into a hall of fame is about a lifetime of achievement. The amount of hands you have played or the fact that you played at incredibly high levels are not what gets you there. Why not have Gus Hansen in there? He has been around longer than Tom Dwan and has played nosebleed levels all through too.

Imo a hall of fame nomination is about recognition of what you have done over a long period of time, like 20+ years in poker at the very least.

The criteria they will consider in their vote are as follows:

* A player must have played poker against acknowledged top competition
* Played for high stakes
* Played consistently well, gaining the respect of peers

and gus sucks that's why he's not in there.

eagle eye

phantom_lord wrote: »

The criteria they will consider in their vote are as follows:

* A player must have played poker against acknowledged top competition
* Played for high stakes
* Played consistently well, gaining the respect of peers

and gus sucks that's why he's not in there.

The criteria they will consider in their vote are as follows:

* A player must have played poker against acknowledged top competition
* Played for high stakes
* Played consistently well, gaining the respect of peers
* Stood the test of time
* Or, for non-players, contributed to the overall growth and success of the game of poker, with indelible positive and lasting results.

Ste05

eagle eye wrote: »

When he is still a top player in 15 years time come back to me and I'll certainly agree.

Greenstein, Harrington, Seidel, Nguyen and Sexton are deserving at this stage imo.

I'd be amazed if Durrrr is still playing Poker in 15 years time. Not because he'll have gone broke, but because he'll get bored of it and do something else. Although maybe not...

TBH, I don't really hold all that much reverence towards people who eeked out a living playing Poker back in the day before the boom hit, let's be honest here, if it wasn't for internet Poker/ Moneymaker/ WPT, the likes of Harrington/ Seidel/ Greenstein/ etc would all still be living off whales and tourists in Casino's around Vegas, whereas the likes of Durrr/ Jman/ etc. would probably be top Investment Bankers/ Mathematicians/ Economists or the likes.

Also, I'd be amazed if durrr hasn't played more Poker hands in his life then all those guys combined, (although since it's the WSOP Hall of fame, obviously I'm not referring to more "WSOP hands").

phantom_lord

eagle eye wrote: »

The criteria they will consider in their vote are as follows:

* A player must have played poker against acknowledged top competition
* Played for high stakes
* Played consistently well, gaining the respect of peers
* Stood the test of time
* Or, for non-players, contributed to the overall growth and success of the game of poker, with indelible positive and lasting results.

so durrrr is top of 3 outta 4. while dan picks up the award for not going busto after luckboxing the me?

durrrr has played way more hands than dan, and has been at the top beating the best for years while dan has...stayed alive or something?

eagle eye

Ste05 wrote: »

I'd be amazed if Durrrr is still playing Poker in 15 years time. Not because he'll have gone broke, but because he'll get bored of it and do something else. Although maybe not...

TBH, I don't really hold all that much reverence towards people who eeked out a living playing Poker back in the day before the boom hit, let's be honest here, if it wasn't for internet Poker/ Moneymaker/ WPT, the likes of Harrington/ Seidel/ Greenstein/ etc would all still be living off whales and tourists in Casino's around Vegas, whereas the likes of Durrr/ Jman/ etc. would probably be top Investment Bankers/ Mathematicians/ Economists or the likes.

Also, I'd be amazed if durrr hasn't played more Poker hands in his life then all those guys combined, (although since it's the WSOP Hall of fame, obviously I'm not referring to more "WSOP hands").

I personally think Tom Dwan/Durrr is a great player and fascinating to watch also. I just think its too early to say that he deserves an award like this. I mean I was just thinking after listening to that poker show thingy about the heads up challenge that he is involved in soon and I do think that we have to wait and see if he can maintain that level.

I seriously believe that there is a likelyhood that the man could go broke. He just has that hunger to put huge amounts of money on the line all the time. It wouldn't take that much of a bad run to leave him fairly short.

As for the names you mention above, certainly the boom has made them much wealthier men but they all were very successful long before the boom also. I think that fact that they have been successful since the game became mainstream just shows how good and consistent they are.

mdwexford

eagle eye wrote: »

I seriously believe that there is a likelyhood that the man could go broke. He just has that hunger to put huge amounts of money on the line all the time. It wouldn't take that much of a bad run to leave him fairly short.

I dont know how you can make this statement when you have no idea what his bankroll is. He could be a huge roll nit for all we know.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont know how you can make this statement when you have no idea what his bankroll is. He could be a huge roll nit for all we know.

I don't know how much is roll is but he is hardly a nit unless he is worth hundreds of millions and if he is, he certainly earned that outside poker. His estimated online winnings is 10 mill but it could easily be double that.

mdwexford

Even 10mill is 250 buyins for 200/400 which is the standard game he plays.

Hes too clever to go broke imo, im sure if he lost a ton of cash he'd be willing to drop down to rebuild.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote: »

Even 10mill is 250 buyins for 200/400 which is the standard game he plays.

Hes too clever to go broke imo, im sure if he lost a ton of cash he'd be willing to drop down to rebuild.

He is regularly playing games now where you bring 500k or even 1 mill to the table. This is what I'm talking about.

mdwexford

Regular games with a 1mill buyin, where??

Also who knows how much hes up from live cash, the guy isnt stupid, hes rolled for whatever games hes playing id say.

Anyway gone way off topic so Durrrr is the bestest and Dan is stoopid, The Bear deserves it more than Dan the nit.

corkie123

mdwexford wrote: »

Regular games with a 1mill buyin, where??

Also who knows how much hes up from live cash, the guy isnt stupid, hes rolled for whatever games hes playing id say.

Anyway gone way off topic so Durrrr is the bestest and Dan is stoopid, The Bear deserves it more than Dan the nit.

and mdwexford knows all :rolleyes: