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    #212
    pullandbang
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭pullandbang


    pajero2005 wrote: »
    ALL applications are "new" applications according to him. i.e. You need to submit permission letters from land owners etc.

    He must be taking the piss:mad:

    Like a lot of other people I'sd say, both my original permissions came from farmers who are long since deceased. They'll just have to be satisfied with ICPSA and NARGC membership.


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    #213
    pajero2005
    Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭pajero2005


    Club membership will do the trick i'd say. Its just a pain havin to go back to farmers again asking for the same letters I sent in last year when getting my first licence.:mad:

    My fault for handing in originals I suppose:o


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    #214
    elius
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    Got mine all 3 extended till 31 may 2010... Loving it :-)


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    #215
    riflehunter77
    Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭riflehunter77


    All arrived today 31/10/09, 17 hmr,o/u,.223

    Looks like ill have to get some passport pictures done and get the forms filled in and get it sent off next week.


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    #216
    Hibrion
    Registered Users Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Hibrion


    Got mine today... all three only extended till the end of october 09!!:eek::eek:
    Someone made a serious blunder, was talkin to the FO, goin in on monday to try and get it sorted.


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    #217
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Hibrion wrote: »
    Got mine today... all three only extended till the end of october 09!!:eek::eek:
    Someone made a serious blunder, was talkin to the FO, goin in on monday to try and get it sorted.
    Why was it a serious blunder? You got a three month extension:)


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    #218
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Why was it a serious blunder? You got a three month extension:)

    I think what he's trying to say is that there is a bit of confusion out there as to when you're supposed to apply. I've heard you have to apply no later than three months before the date you get on your letter and I've also heard that you're OK to apply within a few weeks of the date on that letter.


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    #219
    Hibrion
    Registered Users Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Hibrion


    Yes, what John said, the local FO seemed to think the same.. ie that someone made a mistake along the way... he shoots himself and is well in the know on stuff compared to some FOs.

    So if you can apply just a few weeks before, what happens if a decision hasn't been made by then??


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    #220
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Re-read your extension letter. It says "Up to 3 months prior to the expiry date... you must apply for a firearm certificate"
    That means the earliest you should apply for a firearm certificate is three months before it expires. No point in applying now if your cert expires in May 2010.
    Now, it does place you in a quandry if you apply with two months to go and the Super takes his/her legally allowed time of three months to decide to renew or reject your application, but that's another day's worry.


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    #221
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    The phrasing on mine is "up to three months" before the date stated, so according to my interpretation, I can't just sling it in now, but have to wait until next March before I can renew. I'll be putting in a new application anyway as soon as NPWS get back to me, then we'll see how it runs for new licences.


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    #222
    Hezz700
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    Got all mine today extended till 31/05/2010:D

    Can i submit an application for a new firearm now:confused:


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    #223
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Hibrion wrote: »

    So if you can apply just a few weeks before, what happens if a decision hasn't been made by then??
    That's not your fault if a decision hasn't been made. If it's decided that you are not going to be "renewed", then the Super will be in touch presumably to make arrangements as regards storage of your firearm.


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    #224
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Hezz700 wrote: »
    Got all mine today extended till 31/05/2010:D

    Can i submit an application for a new firearm now:confused:
    Why do you want to renew now? Have you money to burn;)Enjoy the free ride:D


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    #225
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    fat-tony wrote: »
    That's not your fault if a decision hasn't been made. If it's decided that you are not going to be "renewed", then the Super will be in touch presumably to make arrangements as regards storage of your firearm.
    The Super could simply grant you an extension on the extension?


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    #226
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    The Super could simply grant you an extension on the extension?
    Exactly (well - maybe the Commissioner might be needed on that):)
    Either way, they're not exactly going to clap you in irons because they were tardy in dealing with your renewal (sorry - application:)).


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    #227
    Hezz700
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Why do you want to renew now? Have you money to burn;)Enjoy the free ride:D

    you misunderstand me my dear fellow. i'm quiet happy with the lenght of my extension.;) What i want to know is can i submit a brand new application for the rifle growing dust in the dealers which up till now they would not process?


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    #228
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Why do you want to renew now? Have you money to burn;)Enjoy the free ride:D

    Sounds to me more like he's wondering whether they're accepting fresh applications, rather than renewals.


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    #229
    Hezz700
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Sounds to me more like he's wondering whether they're accepting fresh applications, rather than renewals.

    Thanks IWM your wise beyond your ears:D


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    #230
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Hezz700 wrote: »
    you misunderstand me my dear fellow. i'm quiet happy with the lenght of my extension.;) What i want to know is can i submit a brand new application for the rifle growing dust in the dealers which up till now they would not process?
    Apols - my bad:o You should of course be able to submit a new application, but the storage and security SI and the Commissioner's guidelines seem to be "not ready" at the mo' which is going to make the new application process less than transparent. The general advice so far seems to be - wait until the guidelines are published.


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    #231
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    There are too many unknowns at the moment.


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    #232
    Hezz700
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Apols - my bad:o You should of course be able to submit a new application, but the storage and security SI and the Commissioner's guidelines seem to be "not ready" at the mo' which is going to make the new application process less than transparent. The general advice so far seems to be - wait until the guidelines are published.

    I had the crime prevention officer around for a visit last may and my new and inproved setup was giving a big thumbs up so i'm not too worried about that aspect of it.

    Anyway if there is more requirement in these guidelines than what i've already got in place, we're all totally f#####!


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    #233
    BornToKill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Exactly (well - maybe the Commissioner might be needed on that)

    And new enabling legislation as well. Can't see this happening.
    Hezz700 wrote: »
    What i want to know is can i submit a brand new application for the rifle growing dust in the dealers which up till now they would not process?

    You surely can now the three year licensing system is up and running limping. You might even get the first ever three year license. Surely a collectors item!
    fat-tony wrote: »
    The general advice so far seems to be - wait until the guidelines are published.

    Though waiting until (next week?) the guidelines go up on the garda website makes good sense.


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    #234
    Hezz700
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    BornToKill wrote: »
    You surely can now the three year licensing system is up and running limping. You might even get the first ever three year license. Surely a collectors item!

    would'nt that be nice...:)


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    #235
    ayapatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    got mine today! extended till 30/06/10 :D
    oh and are semi autos on the restricted list?


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    #236
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    ayapatrick wrote: »
    got mine today! extended till 30/06/10 :D
    oh and are semi autos on the restricted list?
    semi-auto what's?


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    #237
    ayapatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    fat-tony wrote: »
    semi-auto what's?

    :o sorry should have said. sa shotgun. its a benelli


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    #238
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Ive a new application in along with my renewals/applications but seen as how my extensions only last to 31/10/09 i won't have to wait too long. Don't know about applying now with re-application deadline in may next year.

    Here is a conundrum for ya. If someone, say me for talks sake, wanted to trade one .22 for another but my extensions lasted till 31/05/10 could i bring in my old licenses along with my extensions and get both stamped by a Garda, collect my new rifle then when i'm filling in my re-applications in March for 31st May deadline put in the details of my new rifle for my new 3 year license. Surely from now till the time of re-application they would have gotten my amended .22 licence from my local station.
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    #239
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    There is to be no more amending licences by local Gardaí. Local FO told me this only last week. You would have to apply for a new licence now to get your new gun.


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    #240
    rrpc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    ezridax wrote: »
    Ive a new application in along with my renewals/applications but seen as how my extensions only last to 31/10/09 i won't have to wait too long. Don't know about applying now with re-application deadline in may next year.

    Here is a conundrum for ya. If someone, say me for talks sake, wanted to trade one .22 for another but my extensions lasted till 31/05/10 could i bring in my old licenses along with my extensions and get both stamped by a Garda, collect my new rifle then when i'm filling in my re-applications in March for 31st May deadline put in the details of my new rifle for my new 3 year license. Surely from now till the time of re-application they would have gotten my amended .22 licence from my local station.

    You can do that at any time. You've still got an extension but you won't have a licence unless you elect to start your substituted firearm licence from the time it's approved. They're not going to (and I don't think there's any legislation to support) changing an extension letter.

    In other words, you lose whatever length of extension is left when you get your substitution done.


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    #241
    fat-tony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    ayapatrick wrote: »
    :o sorry should have said. sa shotgun. its a benelli
    If the magazine (tube) is incapable of holding more than 3 cartridges, then it's not restricted. (That's also assuming it's not got a detachable, folding or telescopic stock or a pistol grip). Basically if the mag can hold more than 3 shells, then it's restricted.


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