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"Ultra-orthodox Jews visit Hamas"

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  • 20-07-2009 9:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8155350.stm

    Crazy stuff. How fecked up is the Middle East that one group of sworn enemies have other enemies within their camp that meet up with the enemy 'terrorists'?!
    Four members of a group of ultra-orthodox Jews opposed to the existence of Israel have visited Hamas in Gaza.

    The men, clad in the traditional ultra-orthodox garb of black hats and coats and with long side-curls in their hair, met Hamas leader Ismail Haniya.

    The Neturei Karta believe that a Jewish state can only be established by the Messiah and thus denounce Israel as heretic and embrace its enemies.

    Mr Haniya welcomed them, saying Hamas rejects Zionist ideology, not Jews.

    "We feel your suffering, we cry your cry," the Associated Press quoted Rabbi Yisroel Weiss as saying.

    "It is your land, it is occupied, illegitimately and unjustly by people who stole it, kidnapped the name of Judaism and our identity."

    The representatives entered Gaza, which is under a strict Israeli embargo, with a convoy of activists who travelled through Egypt.

    'Heroes'

    Neturei Karta, Aramaic for "Guardians of the City" was founded some 70 years ago in Jerusalem.

    Estimates of the group's size range from a few hundred to a few thousand - some in Israel, others in the UK and US.

    Members have praised Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for saying Israel should be erased from the pages of history - sometimes translated as "wiped off the map".

    They have also attended a Holocaust denial conference in Tehran and held a prayer vigil for the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat as he lay on his death bed.

    Mr Haniya described the men as "heroes", according to Palestinian media reports.

    "Our problem is with the occupation, that stems from the Zionist ideology and its desire to disperse all the Palestinians," he said.

    "Those religious figures that express their objection to the siege, the aggression and the crimes - we can't help but respect them and for their beliefs and their culture."

    Israel and most Western countries regard Hamas as a terrorist group and refuse to deal directly with it.

    The movement is sworn to the destruction of Israel in its charter and backs attacks on Israeli civilians, although has offered a long-term ceasefire in exchange for a Palestinian state on the full territory of the West Bank and Gaza.

    It appears to me that religion has really messed up peoples minds with their interpretation of the political spectrum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Its only messed up if one doesn't realise that Zionism is a solely nationalist ideology, and ultra-orthodox Judaism is a solely religious ideology. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the state of Israel goes against the believes of some sects of Judaism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    gurramok wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8155350.stm

    Crazy stuff. How fecked up is the Middle East that one group of sworn enemies have other enemies within their camp that meet up with the enemy 'terrorists'?!

    Its just as messed up as Hamas claiming that Israel sent "love gum" into gaza to make the teenagers there randy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Its just as messed up as Hamas claiming that Israel sent "love gum" into gaza to make the teenagers there randy.

    Reminds me of the Israeli MK, who blamed earthquakes on Homosexuals. The region is full of a lot of crazies to be sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    wes wrote: »
    Reminds me of the Israeli MK, who blamed earthquakes on Homosexuals. The region is full of a lot of crazies to be sure.

    And not only that region to be sure. I recall Gerry Falwell and Pat Robertson saying that 9/11 was God's punishment for the immorality of the USA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭johnathan woss


    The hardcore zionists are mostly European/American/Russian immigrants I would have thought ?
    What's so strange about this ?


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