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Procedures/cost of bringing dog from usa-ireland
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21-07-2009 4:47pm#1
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jessoneal34 wrote: »Reindeer,
Thank you for all of the good information. Please keep me updated as you learn more. Good luck with getting you and your greyhound back to Ireland safely. Let me know if you need any help with that - not sure what I can do but never hurts to ask.
Jessie
If you ask me, I would not bring the pet unless you plan to stay for a very long time and have a pet passport BEFORE you leave. After shopping around for months, it is still incurring nearly an extra $2,000 to bring my pet back with me to Ireland due to procedures and less options for air travel with a large animal.
If your dog is small enough to fit in a kennel that will stow beneath the seat before you(which means you must not have a bulkhead or emergency exit seat), the costs are much less. Check each air line for the size allowed. I have seen charges as little as $100. But please, for the love of God, do not punish passengers with a very loud dog
This does not include the part where you must:
Use a specific type of rabies shot at least 21 days before travel(specified in the Agg docs I cited above).
Must have the dog treated for Echinococcus within 5 days of the flight leaving. It is a European tape worm, and a particularly nasty one we simply do not have in the states, so finding a treatment that clearly states it is meant for such a worm took me 3 attempts.
The dog must be microchipped before any documentation occurs.
You must have your kennel cough et al shots up to date, but not dated before the chipping.
You must have the vet fill out an FDA bill of health form known as the "Official Small Animal Health Certificate". It is ultimately issued by the state so the form #'s vary. If you can not get this form, the vet must then request a federal form for you.
You then need to fill out the international export of a pet form and have it stamped by your vet. This is known as the Annex II form - your vet must endorse page 3. These are available on line from the US FDA.
If your pet is larger than can be accommodated on aboard and must be checked as baggage you must:
Make sure the animal can stand and turn around in the crate easily.
The crate must be labelled as having live animals. I also make sure to label which side is up(Hey, ya never know)
There must be ventilation on 3 sides, it must not be collapsible. 'Vari Kennel' brand is sort of the standard. It is also what I have. I acquired mine from the local Greyhound Rescue I have worked with previously.
They must be able to give your pet water without opening the crate. I put plenty of dog food in the crate even though my dog likely will no eat in a crate. She hates crates. She hates planes. She also hates vegetables. You MUST also include an extra bag attached to the side of the crate with enough food for a day.
You must put feeding instructions on the crate in case an extended layover occurs or an extended f-up occurs.
You must clearly label feeding instructions outside on the crate. I just put 2 cups twice a day.
I zip tie an REI collapsible nylon water bowl to the crate door. This is easily filled and retains enough shape for at least 4 cups of water.
Additional things I do:
I put a copy of all paperwork on the crate, I add a lead to the interior. It's been cold lately, so I will also put a coat on the dog. The cargo area is usually a few degrees cooler than the passenger compartment, but it's mainly in case she ends up on the tarmac for too long, and the fact she's a Greyhound with not much fur or fat.
I put the dogs name in quotes, and my name followed by 'owner' on the top of the crate in black felt.
I put my PH#, and the PH# of the rescue or contact in Ireland on the top of the box.
I put the flight numbers and destinations on the top of the crate.
I label clearly where the handles are on the side so the handlers don't have to go feel for them, or think there may not be handles since they are under a lip on vari kennels.
I also put the words "TOP" on the top of the crate
Put bedding in the crate. You can not put anything loose. Only blankets or large cushions. No chippings or straw, etc. I make sure it's plenty absorbent because chances are, on a long flight, your dog may relieve itself.
I do not feed my dog before a flight. BUT - I STATE THAT I HAVE. This is for two reasons. Airlines will not take dogs unless you state you have fed them - usually within 4 hours of the flight. I do not feed her because, well, she freakin HAS food in her crate. If she wants to eat she will. If she doesn't, she won't. Most importantly, she will now not vomit up her breakfast when the plane takes off and be rolling in it for 18 hours(ask me how I know). She'll eat if she's feeling well enough. If your pet is more calm than mine, this may not apply. Dogs, like humans, can go days without food easily. My main concern is her getting loose, really.
I put a lead in the crate just in case she gets loose and they need to go grab her. Good luck with that, cargo people. You lose a hound on the tarmac and she is gonna shut that airport down. One moment she is on runway 1, the next - runway 38. But, just in case. I state on the crate that there is a lead in it. Well, I use the term 'leash' as some airport employees may not be familiar with 'lead'.
Yeah so - that's what I can remember off the top of my head. Good luck to ya. My flight is this Wednesday.0 -
If you ask me, I would not bring the pet unless you plan to stay for a very long time and have a pet passport BEFORE you leave. After shopping around for months, it is still incurring nearly an extra $2,000 to bring my pet back with me to Ireland due to procedures and less options for air travel with a large animal.
If your dog is small enough to fit in a kennel that will stow beneath the seat before you(which means you must not have a bulkhead or emergency exit seat), the costs are much less. Check each air line for the size allowed. I have seen charges as little as $100. But please, for the love of God, do not punish passengers with a very loud dog
This does not include the part where you must:
Use a specific type of rabies shot at least 21 days before travel(specified in the Agg docs I cited above).
Must have the dog treated for Echinococcus within 5 days of the flight leaving. It is a European tape worm, and a particularly nasty one we simply do not have in the states, so finding a treatment that clearly states it is meant for such a worm took me 3 attempts.
The dog must be microchipped before any documentation occurs.
You must have your kennel cough et al shots up to date, but not dated before the chipping.
You must have the vet fill out an FDA bill of health form known as the "Official Small Animal Health Certificate". It is ultimately issued by the state so the form #'s vary. If you can not get this form, the vet must then request a federal form for you.
You then need to fill out the international export of a pet form and have it stamped by your vet. This is known as the Annex II form - your vet must endorse page 3. These are available on line from the US FDA.
If your pet is larger than can be accommodated on aboard and must be checked as baggage you must:
Make sure the animal can stand and turn around in the crate easily.
The crate must be labelled as having live animals. I also make sure to label which side is up(Hey, ya never know)
There must be ventilation on 3 sides, it must not be collapsible. 'Vari Kennel' brand is sort of the standard. It is also what I have. I acquired mine from the local Greyhound Rescue I have worked with previously.
They must be able to give your pet water without opening the crate. I put plenty of dog food in the crate even though my dog likely will no eat in a crate. She hates crates. She hates planes. She also hates vegetables. You MUST also include an extra bag attached to the side of the crate with enough food for a day.
You must put feeding instructions on the crate in case an extended layover occurs or an extended f-up occurs.
You must clearly label feeding instructions outside on the crate. I just put 2 cups twice a day.
I zip tie an REI collapsible nylon water bowl to the crate door. This is easily filled and retains enough shape for at least 4 cups of water.
Additional things I do:
I put a copy of all paperwork on the crate, I add a lead to the interior. It's been cold lately, so I will also put a coat on the dog. The cargo area is usually a few degrees cooler than the passenger compartment, but it's mainly in case she ends up on the tarmac for too long, and the fact she's a Greyhound with not much fur or fat.
I put the dogs name in quotes, and my name followed by 'owner' on the top of the crate in black felt.
I put my PH#, and the PH# of the rescue or contact in Ireland on the top of the box.
I put the flight numbers and destinations on the top of the crate.
I label clearly where the handles are on the side so the handlers don't have to go feel for them, or think there may not be handles since they are under a lip on vari kennels.
I also put the words "TOP" on the top of the crate
Put bedding in the crate. You can not put anything loose. Only blankets or large cushions. No chippings or straw, etc. I make sure it's plenty absorbent because chances are, on a long flight, your dog may relieve itself.
I do not feed my dog before a flight. BUT - I STATE THAT I HAVE. This is for two reasons. Airlines will not take dogs unless you state you have fed them - usually within 4 hours of the flight. I do not feed her because, well, she freakin HAS food in her crate. If she wants to eat she will. If she doesn't, she won't. Most importantly, she will now not vomit up her breakfast when the plane takes off and be rolling in it for 18 hours(ask me how I know). She'll eat if she's feeling well enough. If your pet is more calm than mine, this may not apply. Dogs, like humans, can go days without food easily. My main concern is her getting loose, really.
I put a lead in the crate just in case she gets loose and they need to go grab her. Good luck with that, cargo people. You lose a hound on the tarmac and she is gonna shut that airport down. One moment she is on runway 1, the next - runway 38. But, just in case. I state on the crate that there is a lead in it. Well, I use the term 'leash' as some airport employees may not be familiar with 'lead'.
Yeah so - that's what I can remember off the top of my head. Good luck to ya. My flight is this Wednesday.
Really surprised you're allowed to put food in the crate, when i sent a dog to australia that was a complete no-no. i was allowed to give him a kong with peanut butter, but that was all, no animal feed at all.0 -
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