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Procedures/cost of bringing dog from usa-ireland
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21-07-2009 4:47pmHi,im wondering does anyone know the procedures and cost of bringing a dog from the USA(new york) to Ireland.I was told the dog has to quarantined for up to 6 months,is this true??
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Yes it's true.There's only one kennel approved for quarantine,it's in Swords (Dublin)
PS If you're flying with him on an American Airline his flight may be free but don't count on it!0 -
No, that's not true.
All you have to do is get him a pet passport and he will be able to come with you. He will have to be up to date on vaccinations and tested rabies-free, amongst other requirements.0 -
He will need to be quarantined if he's brought directly to Ireland. Not sure if he's flown to the UK first, you'll have to make some calls and do some research.
www.agriculture.gov.ie/pets
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/moving-country/moving-to-ireland/coming-to-live-in-ireland/bringing_pets_to_ireland
http://www.movetoireland.com/movepag/petover.htm0 -
No, that's not true.
All you have to do is get him a pet passport and he will be able to come with you. He will have to be up to date on vaccinations and tested rabies-free, amongst other requirements.
The USA has not yet been admitted to the pet passport scheme so sorry Magenta , you're wrong.The dog does not have to go to the UK first (that's for dogs going US - Australia) but quarantine is mandatory.It MAY be possible to quarantine at home under certain circumstances ie if you have a suitable quarantine kennel on your own premises but you would need it to be inspected and approved by DEFRA:(0 -
The USA has not yet been admitted to the pet passport scheme so sorry Magenta , you're wrong.The dog does not have to go to the UK first (that's for dogs going US - Australia) but quarantine is mandatory.It MAY be possible to quarantine at home under certain circumstances ie if you have a suitable quarantine kennel on your own premises but you would need it to be inspected and approved by DEFRA:(
The pet passport DOES work with animals from the USA to Ireland unless its been changed!
We brought our boy over 4 years ago (he since passed on last year unfortunatly) under the pet passport scheme. He was microchipped/blood tested/samples sent to Ireland etc for over 6months in the US. We used Aer Lingus (800USD i think one way for my wife/cat/dog) who were very accomodating & the cheapest to fly with (drove from Cleveland to Chicago to fly them. US carriers wanted over 1000!).
As we were one of the first to use this system, we had a mix up with his shots/ paperwork (from memory our dog was updated with shots so imho there was no need to give him additional before his bloodtest. Apparently we should have, & given him more so because of this, he had go into quarantine for 13days while they checked our case & got us sorted. We had affadavids & sworn legal statements done to prove he'd been updated with shots to cover us. We paid up front (nearly €3000) for his 6month kennel in Swords which we got back being charged only for those days he was in. We were in touch with Dept Agriculture every few days & talked nice to them so they'd look favorable on us & see our case as soon as they could. They had to wait until they'd X amount of cases gathered before they would look at one. Almost like a parole sytem. It worked. All we'd to do was fax the kennel a statement requesting his release & voila! Out he came - with major sh*ts & stinking but he was home! Entered him in a local dog show 3 days later & he won best dog over 7 & 3rd best overall! And we won the raffle TWICE! Luck sure shined on us after all the stress. Our kitty, BTW, came right in no problems.
It's very stressful getting your animal ready & you won't know until before 2 weeks if he's approved & not going to be quarantined so can't stress enough: make sure you read everything. it's essential to do everything in order of listing on the Irish website even if you've already done it. How they listed it was confusing & there were other similar cases to ours. I'm assuming they're making it clearer now the steps to follow.
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He will need to be quarantined if he's brought directly to Ireland. Not sure if he's flown to the UK first, you'll have to make some calls and do some research.
www.agriculture.gov.ie/pets
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/moving-country/moving-to-ireland/coming-to-live-in-ireland/bringing_pets_to_ireland
http://www.movetoireland.com/movepag/petover.htm
USA is on the list of qualifying countries not in the EU on those links...0 -
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Ok,looks like im going to have to do some research,no short answer here.
Thanks for all your help.0 -
Your dog does NOT have to go into quarinte coming from the US once it has its Rabies shots and Blood tests!......A friend of mine only broght her 2 CKC's in from New York a couple of months ago!!0
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As I recall my aunt's dog cost us more than 5000 euro, and the c*** at the Swords place asked for a bribe of 1000 to not hold up the process.0
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I brought my dog from NYC to ireland 2 years ago. Dog met all the necessary requirements for importing and therefore avoided having to be quarantined. Lots of paperwork involved but the whole operation went extremely smoothly.
Dog was taken off plane by a courier and brought to lissenhall for an exam (they scan for micro chip and match against paperwork).
From being taken from the plane and brought to lissenhall for the exam, my dog was back in my arms within approx an hour of the plane landing.You don't get to see your dog till after they pass exam at lissenhall.
I would have to say that lissenhall vet and courier were most helpful when i first looked into bringing my dog to ireland.All my questions answered( i had MANY) and their professionalism was second to none on the day my dog arrived.
I used Delta airlines if i remember, the cost for the actual flight was approx $1000 and if i add everything together including bloodwork, vet certs,crate the total came to around 1800-2000.I completed all the paperwork myself( and was really glad i did) but i believe that there is a pet travel company that you now have to use when bringing your pet to ireland. correct me if i'm wrong here. Please PM me if you need anymore questions answered as the preparation before dog leaves is quite complicated.0 -
HI,
We brought our dog in from the U.S. March 1st 2009. Lots of paperwork, like everyone said - pet passport, rabies vaccinations, etc.. North America is definitely on the approved region list - just contact dept of agriculture.0 -
boardbrowser wrote: »I brought my dog from NYC to ireland 2 years ago. Dog met all the necessary requirements for importing and therefore avoided having to be quarantined. Lots of paperwork involved but the whole operation went extremely smoothly.
Dog was taken off plane by a courier and brought to lissenhall for an exam (they scan for micro chip and match against paperwork).
From being taken from the plane and brought to lissenhall for the exam, my dog was back in my arms within approx an hour of the plane landing.You don't get to see your dog till after they pass exam at lissenhall.
I would have to say that lissenhall vet and courier were most helpful when i first looked into bringing my dog to ireland.All my questions answered( i had MANY) and their professionalism was second to none on the day my dog arrived.
I used Delta airlines if i remember, the cost for the actual flight was approx $1000 and if i add everything together including bloodwork, vet certs,crate the total came to around 1800-2000.I completed all the paperwork myself( and was really glad i did) but i believe that there is a pet travel company that you now have to use when bringing your pet to ireland. correct me if i'm wrong here. Please PM me if you need anymore questions answered as the preparation before dog leaves is quite complicated.0 -
fionamurray wrote: »Hi. I am moving to Ireland in August from the US. I have contacted the dept. agriculture, but their instructions are not very clear. could you help me and tell me your step by step process. I would really appreciate the help. Thank you.
http://tv3.ie/article.php?article_id=25939&locID=1.65.74.145.&pagename=
This has all the information you'll need.
More info : http://www.ispca.ie/Pet-Passport.aspx
Lots more on here : http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/procedures/owners.htm (I know this is a UK site, but the restrictions are the same)0 -
ChocolateSauce wrote: »As I recall my aunt's dog cost us more than 5000 euro, and the c*** at the Swords place asked for a bribe of 1000 to not hold up the process.0
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if you pm me i'll provide you with all the details of my particular situation with my dog coming to ireland from states. Need to dig up paperwork as memory is a little vague.0
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I was trying to bring in an APBT and was going down the whole Lisson hall road, the dog I was getting was a pup and would hav been only 8 weeks old coming from holland, they wanted 2500euro to quarintine. But when they heard it was a pitbull they wouldnt take the dog. They told me they had a policy not to take those breeds because they have a tendancy to attack other dogs despite only being 8 weeks old, they also told me i could only see the dog for one hour a week. The main question i have is how the F*%K is the dog meant to bite another dog if its in quarentine, it shouldnt be near any other dogs, there **** I swear. The reason the dog ha to go in is because of rabies yet there hasnt been a case of rabies in mainland europe in I dont no how long.
Best of luck getting your dog into the country, but would you consider how much of an impact going into a kennel environment would have on an 8 week old pup. The pup would miss out on a lot of socialisation in those 6 months. If there is any way that the breeder could keep hold of the dog and get all of the blood tests, vaccinations etc done, and then send the dog over when its old enough, I think it would be better for the dog. I know that you wouldn't be able to go and see the dog weekly, but I think that the extra handling and dog socialisation staying with the breeder would more than compensate for that.0 -
i had a similar recent issue where i wanted to bring my dog from a country that was not on a pet passport country to Ireland.The only option was to stick her in quarantine for 6 months and get charged about 3k or bring her to an eu country for 6 months before brining her to Ireland on a pet passport, allowing me to skip quarantine in ireland.This is a a toy dog that has never been left alone and slept every night on out pillow so there was no way i was putting her in quarantine or even in boarding kennel abroad. So I have a friends mother in czech republic I gave 1,800 to to mind the dog for 6 months. She lives in the house and has a another buddy dog to play with and a big back garden. For me that was a much better option her living with a family for 6 months where i know she will be happy. It was also cheaper than quarantine where she would be miserable.His neighours would probably take a dog or two as they play with my one all the time if needed and love dogs.You can email me on bushlizard@gmail.com if you anyone is stuck as I know it can be really hard position to be in.0
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Any updates on this matter as I am planning on studying abroad next year, 2013, and bringing my dog along? I currently live in the US.0
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jessoneal34 wrote: »Any updates on this matter as I am planning on studying abroad next year, 2013, and bringing my dog along? I currently live in the US.
Bringing a pet to Ireland from the US is much more involved than the opposite route from Ireland to the US. You need to go to the Irish web site here and make sure all your Veterinary issues are sorted: http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/pets/
Make certain you acquire a pet passport before leaving the EU. Getting one in the states is extremely difficult by comparison.
The only carrier Ireland allows from the US direct to Dublin is Aer Lingus. Aer Lingus requires you use Pet Express. Pet Express will charge you several thousand dollars to book your pet. When you land, it will be an additional 230 Euro fee for a vet to check your paperwork, inspect the animal, and take care of the local paperwork after landing.
British Airways to London will charge you roughly $1800 USD from LAX plus the 280 pound inspection and paperwork fee. They charge based upon size and dimensions as cargo.
A more affordable option is taking Air Canada from the US to London Heathrow. London charges 280 pounds for the paperwork and inspection once the pet arrives. Air Canada charges $270 for a pet and crate that is under 70 lbs and within certain dimensions, and allows you to book the pet personally on the phone.
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/pets-in-baggage.html
Once your pet is in the EU, you may then enter Ireland on any flight or ferry that allows pets, assuming you hold a valid pet passport. This option may be considerably more affordable than paying the cargo or booking fees for BA or Lingus. Here is a complete list of carriers the UK allows for transport of pets into the UK from the US: http://www.defra.gov.uk/files/pets-air-routes.pdf
This all assumes you have the correct paperwork/vet docs.
I am currently fighting desperately to get my Greyhound back with me to Ireland. I simply can not afford an extra $4000, and did not expect such costs when I brought her here with me from Ireland nearly 3 years ago for 175 Euro on Aer Lingus.0 -
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OK, here's another update:
Delta will fly your dog out to Ireland. They will not do it on 767's, though. So make sure to book a flight using their 757.
Costs are $200, and you must reserve your dog when you reserve the ticket. The $200 is payable at the check in counter.
Bear in mind that whoever operates the transport have agreements with other airlines to transport their cargo when they do a handover, such as when a domestic flight has a layover and it goes to an international flight. So whatever the origination policy is for the animal applies in most instances. A notable exception is an airline that simply does not allow pets at all. Lufthansa and US Aiways, amongst a few others, will not accept pets for checked baggage in any circumstance.
This is all I have learned so far trying to book my pet back to Ireland with me. It looks like I may be going with either Delta or American Airlines. KLM is also an option.0 -
Reindeer,
Thank you for all of the good information. Please keep me updated as you learn more. Good luck with getting you and your greyhound back to Ireland safely. Let me know if you need any help with that - not sure what I can do but never hurts to ask.
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I was trying to get a pet passport + to travel with my dog from ireland to France earlier this year + found getting clear + upto date information a nightmare.
This was not helped by the laissez faire attitude by those responsible in the Irish DofAg in the pet passport section.
I eventually got the pet passport without delays once i applied + having got my shots, but would really reccomend that you get the full name + department of the person you are speaking to. Dont settle for " i think" or " as far as I know" answers - get them to check.
If you can, get it in writing. The Irush D of Ag website was about a year out of date + i only found this out by accident - EU rules for UK-Ireland dog travel changed on Jan 2012 which messed me up.
Ferries between Ire + UK and UK and Francd are subject to availability + have to be reserved in advance. So ring the ferries + not the call center girls + boys to make sure your info is right ( they were most helpful).
There are two compsnies that will fly your pet for you - not sure if they do the US. I got them by a link on a previous pet passport thread on boards - no doubt Mr Google could also assist.
France was 1,000 + one way...
Good luck with it
+ check + double check your " facts" - AT SOURCE.0 -
jessoneal34 wrote: »Reindeer,
Thank you for all of the good information. Please keep me updated as you learn more. Good luck with getting you and your greyhound back to Ireland safely. Let me know if you need any help with that - not sure what I can do but never hurts to ask.
Jessie
If you ask me, I would not bring the pet unless you plan to stay for a very long time and have a pet passport BEFORE you leave. After shopping around for months, it is still incurring nearly an extra $2,000 to bring my pet back with me to Ireland due to procedures and less options for air travel with a large animal.
If your dog is small enough to fit in a kennel that will stow beneath the seat before you(which means you must not have a bulkhead or emergency exit seat), the costs are much less. Check each air line for the size allowed. I have seen charges as little as $100. But please, for the love of God, do not punish passengers with a very loud dog
This does not include the part where you must:
Use a specific type of rabies shot at least 21 days before travel(specified in the Agg docs I cited above).
Must have the dog treated for Echinococcus within 5 days of the flight leaving. It is a European tape worm, and a particularly nasty one we simply do not have in the states, so finding a treatment that clearly states it is meant for such a worm took me 3 attempts.
The dog must be microchipped before any documentation occurs.
You must have your kennel cough et al shots up to date, but not dated before the chipping.
You must have the vet fill out an FDA bill of health form known as the "Official Small Animal Health Certificate". It is ultimately issued by the state so the form #'s vary. If you can not get this form, the vet must then request a federal form for you.
You then need to fill out the international export of a pet form and have it stamped by your vet. This is known as the Annex II form - your vet must endorse page 3. These are available on line from the US FDA.
If your pet is larger than can be accommodated on aboard and must be checked as baggage you must:
Make sure the animal can stand and turn around in the crate easily.
The crate must be labelled as having live animals. I also make sure to label which side is up(Hey, ya never know)
There must be ventilation on 3 sides, it must not be collapsible. 'Vari Kennel' brand is sort of the standard. It is also what I have. I acquired mine from the local Greyhound Rescue I have worked with previously.
They must be able to give your pet water without opening the crate. I put plenty of dog food in the crate even though my dog likely will no eat in a crate. She hates crates. She hates planes. She also hates vegetables. You MUST also include an extra bag attached to the side of the crate with enough food for a day.
You must put feeding instructions on the crate in case an extended layover occurs or an extended f-up occurs.
You must clearly label feeding instructions outside on the crate. I just put 2 cups twice a day.
I zip tie an REI collapsible nylon water bowl to the crate door. This is easily filled and retains enough shape for at least 4 cups of water.
Additional things I do:
I put a copy of all paperwork on the crate, I add a lead to the interior. It's been cold lately, so I will also put a coat on the dog. The cargo area is usually a few degrees cooler than the passenger compartment, but it's mainly in case she ends up on the tarmac for too long, and the fact she's a Greyhound with not much fur or fat.
I put the dogs name in quotes, and my name followed by 'owner' on the top of the crate in black felt.
I put my PH#, and the PH# of the rescue or contact in Ireland on the top of the box.
I put the flight numbers and destinations on the top of the crate.
I label clearly where the handles are on the side so the handlers don't have to go feel for them, or think there may not be handles since they are under a lip on vari kennels.
I also put the words "TOP" on the top of the crate
Put bedding in the crate. You can not put anything loose. Only blankets or large cushions. No chippings or straw, etc. I make sure it's plenty absorbent because chances are, on a long flight, your dog may relieve itself.
I do not feed my dog before a flight. BUT - I STATE THAT I HAVE. This is for two reasons. Airlines will not take dogs unless you state you have fed them - usually within 4 hours of the flight. I do not feed her because, well, she freakin HAS food in her crate. If she wants to eat she will. If she doesn't, she won't. Most importantly, she will now not vomit up her breakfast when the plane takes off and be rolling in it for 18 hours(ask me how I know). She'll eat if she's feeling well enough. If your pet is more calm than mine, this may not apply. Dogs, like humans, can go days without food easily. My main concern is her getting loose, really.
I put a lead in the crate just in case she gets loose and they need to go grab her. Good luck with that, cargo people. You lose a hound on the tarmac and she is gonna shut that airport down. One moment she is on runway 1, the next - runway 38. But, just in case. I state on the crate that there is a lead in it. Well, I use the term 'leash' as some airport employees may not be familiar with 'lead'.
Yeah so - that's what I can remember off the top of my head. Good luck to ya. My flight is this Wednesday.0 -
If you ask me, I would not bring the pet unless you plan to stay for a very long time and have a pet passport BEFORE you leave. After shopping around for months, it is still incurring nearly an extra $2,000 to bring my pet back with me to Ireland due to procedures and less options for air travel with a large animal.
If your dog is small enough to fit in a kennel that will stow beneath the seat before you(which means you must not have a bulkhead or emergency exit seat), the costs are much less. Check each air line for the size allowed. I have seen charges as little as $100. But please, for the love of God, do not punish passengers with a very loud dog
This does not include the part where you must:
Use a specific type of rabies shot at least 21 days before travel(specified in the Agg docs I cited above).
Must have the dog treated for Echinococcus within 5 days of the flight leaving. It is a European tape worm, and a particularly nasty one we simply do not have in the states, so finding a treatment that clearly states it is meant for such a worm took me 3 attempts.
The dog must be microchipped before any documentation occurs.
You must have your kennel cough et al shots up to date, but not dated before the chipping.
You must have the vet fill out an FDA bill of health form known as the "Official Small Animal Health Certificate". It is ultimately issued by the state so the form #'s vary. If you can not get this form, the vet must then request a federal form for you.
You then need to fill out the international export of a pet form and have it stamped by your vet. This is known as the Annex II form - your vet must endorse page 3. These are available on line from the US FDA.
If your pet is larger than can be accommodated on aboard and must be checked as baggage you must:
Make sure the animal can stand and turn around in the crate easily.
The crate must be labelled as having live animals. I also make sure to label which side is up(Hey, ya never know)
There must be ventilation on 3 sides, it must not be collapsible. 'Vari Kennel' brand is sort of the standard. It is also what I have. I acquired mine from the local Greyhound Rescue I have worked with previously.
They must be able to give your pet water without opening the crate. I put plenty of dog food in the crate even though my dog likely will no eat in a crate. She hates crates. She hates planes. She also hates vegetables. You MUST also include an extra bag attached to the side of the crate with enough food for a day.
You must put feeding instructions on the crate in case an extended layover occurs or an extended f-up occurs.
You must clearly label feeding instructions outside on the crate. I just put 2 cups twice a day.
I zip tie an REI collapsible nylon water bowl to the crate door. This is easily filled and retains enough shape for at least 4 cups of water.
Additional things I do:
I put a copy of all paperwork on the crate, I add a lead to the interior. It's been cold lately, so I will also put a coat on the dog. The cargo area is usually a few degrees cooler than the passenger compartment, but it's mainly in case she ends up on the tarmac for too long, and the fact she's a Greyhound with not much fur or fat.
I put the dogs name in quotes, and my name followed by 'owner' on the top of the crate in black felt.
I put my PH#, and the PH# of the rescue or contact in Ireland on the top of the box.
I put the flight numbers and destinations on the top of the crate.
I label clearly where the handles are on the side so the handlers don't have to go feel for them, or think there may not be handles since they are under a lip on vari kennels.
I also put the words "TOP" on the top of the crate
Put bedding in the crate. You can not put anything loose. Only blankets or large cushions. No chippings or straw, etc. I make sure it's plenty absorbent because chances are, on a long flight, your dog may relieve itself.
I do not feed my dog before a flight. BUT - I STATE THAT I HAVE. This is for two reasons. Airlines will not take dogs unless you state you have fed them - usually within 4 hours of the flight. I do not feed her because, well, she freakin HAS food in her crate. If she wants to eat she will. If she doesn't, she won't. Most importantly, she will now not vomit up her breakfast when the plane takes off and be rolling in it for 18 hours(ask me how I know). She'll eat if she's feeling well enough. If your pet is more calm than mine, this may not apply. Dogs, like humans, can go days without food easily. My main concern is her getting loose, really.
I put a lead in the crate just in case she gets loose and they need to go grab her. Good luck with that, cargo people. You lose a hound on the tarmac and she is gonna shut that airport down. One moment she is on runway 1, the next - runway 38. But, just in case. I state on the crate that there is a lead in it. Well, I use the term 'leash' as some airport employees may not be familiar with 'lead'.
Yeah so - that's what I can remember off the top of my head. Good luck to ya. My flight is this Wednesday.
Really surprised you're allowed to put food in the crate, when i sent a dog to australia that was a complete no-no. i was allowed to give him a kong with peanut butter, but that was all, no animal feed at all.0 -
Really surprised you're allowed to put food in the crate, when i sent a dog to australia that was a complete no-no. i was allowed to give him a kong with peanut butter, but that was all, no animal feed at all.
Australia/ new Zealand have super strict laws with food, thats probably why! If you ever watch any of those customs programmes on telly they are crazy!0 -
One thing I forgot to mention. Aer Lingus automatically books you for Lissenhalls. If you use a different carrier, be sure your animal is booked for Lissenhall so that they can send a courier to grab the pet upon arrival, and then take them across the street from DUB to the vet clinic for the exam. Otherwise, your pet may be waiting on a courier for hours if Lissenhall isn't scheduled.
http://www.merialvetsite.com/sites/lissenhall/home.html0 -
Really surprised you're allowed to put food in the crate, when i sent a dog to australia that was a complete no-no. i was allowed to give him a kong with peanut butter, but that was all, no animal feed at all.
You'll find that every country, and every carrier, is a little different in what they allow or don't allow.0 -
And here's the update. I have diverted my flight to Amsterdam. Dublin airport/Ireland place, does not allow you to check any animal as baggage - they must all be flown as cargo. So I am headed out on the flight to Amsterdam tomorrow.0
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seems like poor reindeer is having a journey from hell, if the dog had gone as cargo, no problem, but as he wouldn't allow it to - or couldn't afford to, not sure which, he and the dog had to fly to Amsterdam and then get a ferry, but obviously didn't have the proper worming regime in place to enter the uk from holland, as he hadn't been expecting to have to do that, so had to pay for a taxi to vets, and the treatment. Has got a ferry from holland to Harwich in England, but is now stuck there, trying to get to Holyhead to get a ferry to ireland.
If anyone has any relatives or friends in that part of england that could help him out, with somewhere to stay or with transportation to ireland, please pm me and I will pass it onto the people on fb that are trying to sort all of this out. he is coming to ireland to volunteer for a year at a rescue.0
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