Boylesports this is just wrong!!!!

HIVeindhoven

I'm pretty sure all the people complaining about this are just tightwads. Probably the sort of people who mysteriously dissapear every time its their round. That or they just arent very intelligent.
Or both.

robinblinds

bingobars wrote: »

Looks to me about 80% in favour of Boyles.

I'll take the over

mully_85

HIVeindhoven wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all the people complaining about this are just tightwads. Probably the sort of people who mysteriously dissapear every time its their round. That or they just arent very intelligent.
Or both.

lol why feel the need to stoop to insults or misonceptions just because some1 doesnt agree with your point of view!!!

HIVeindhoven

mully_85 wrote: »

lol why feel the need to stoop to insults or misonceptions just because some1 doesnt agree with your point of view!!!

Because its fun.

mully_85

HIVeindhoven wrote: »

Because its fun.

lool nice 1, u get ur kicks out of trolling internet discussion forums - sweet. lol.

eagle eye

HIVeindhoven wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all the people complaining about this are just tightwads. Probably the sort of people who mysteriously dissapear every time its their round. That or they just arent very intelligent.
Or both.

You seem to me to be in the mood to insult people at every turn in this thread. I just hate keyboard warriors so much.

robinblinds

mully_85

robinblinds wrote: »

lmao wp

HIVeindhoven

eagle eye wrote: »

You seem to me to be in the mood to insult people at every turn in this thread. I just hate keyboard warriors so much.

Feel free to point out where i've personally insulted anyone on this thread?

connie147

Firstly, I'd like to say that I think this marketing ploy is a very intellegent one.
The only reservation i have is that i think they should have given everybody the 10k starting stack as they had last year and let players earn the extra 2k so that they start with 12k. Then nobody would feel like they were being penalised.

Connie

The Snapper

robinblinds wrote: »

subtle

a147pro

mdwexford wrote: »

Would you rather they dropped the $25k added and everyone just start with 10k?

If you answer yes to above question you are stupid btw.

yes.

their software is complete cack.

I should not have to waste my time in Aug and Sep so I have an equal stack.

the only people who are stupid are those that don't realise Boyle's are not adding 25k to the prizepool, they will get this in rake as a result of the promotion. we are paying it.

mdwexford

iPoker is ok.

You have an equal stack. The people who as you put it are contributing rake so you get to play for an extra $25k are just getting a bonus 2k which is fair imo.

I dont think Boyles will rake close to $25k off some players getting 500 vip points.

a147pro

i dont have an equal stack MD. and I'd be delighted to pay 25$ extra to have 10k. Boyle's are perfectly entitled to do this, and its very clever and all, but it really p*sses me off.

i hve fcuk all time or money to devote to poker as it is, the thought of having to spend 15 odd hours in consecutive months with that sh*te software, when I could be doing something else, or at least be on stars, really annoys me.

but I'll do it cos I don't have any other opportunity to play a live game like this

eagle eye

Just thinking about it now and wouldn't it have been a lot more sensible of Boyles to have made that 25k available as a extra prize to the last player remaining that actually completed that task rather than adding 2k to stacks and unbalancing the tournament.

tipp86

eagle eye wrote: »

Just thinking about it now and wouldn't it have been a lot more sensible of Boyles to have made that 25k available as a extra prize to the last player remaining that actually completed that task rather than adding 2k to stacks and unbalancing the tournament.

Really its been said 20 times in the thread why they use this strategy ! Im really surprised you cant grasp it.

Once again if they done as you said they would most likely get the internet players doing it. The aim of this is surely to attract a new customer base.

LuckyLloyd

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a147pro

the voice of reason indeed.

I've found a satisfactory solution - $20 HU games. You can prob meet the bonus target in a night and the exposure to the crapness of the software is limited in HU format

CourierCollie

a147pro wrote: »

the voice of reason indeed.

I've found a satisfactory solution - $20 HU games. You can prob meet the bonus target in a night and the exposure to the crapness of the software is limited in HU format

Yeah, Lloyd, if your going to play this, you might as well put in the few hours on boyles. I hate ipoker as much as CHD, but it would only take a few hours at 5c/10c to cover this. Seriously -EV as you would say, not to.

TommyGunne

Hitman Actual wrote: »

The biggest weapon that players have is to vote with their feet, and apart from a few disconcerted cries (mostly from people complaining that it's unfair on others), there doesn't seem to be a lot of people who won't play because of the online requirement for the extra chips.
.

Well obv! Everyone here obviously has good access to internet, and very likely plays some online.

I do agree with you though.

kennyrsb

i dont mind playing on boyles to get the extra 2K and i hope to play the event but a alot of people are saying its a Great Idea, its not that original imo, its like a combination of early bird chip and the way alot of casinos run there cash leauges or jp's leauge.

Samoa Joe

http://boylepokerblog.com/index.php/ipo/ipo-2009-fair-or-unfair.html

Paul has written a blog about this. It should answer any outstanding questions.

5starpool

Ciaran_Corbett wrote: »

http://boylepokerblog.com/index.php/ipo/ipo-2009-fair-or-unfair.html

Paul has written a blog about this. It should answer any outstanding questions.

That's a lot of beer he is promising to buy.

DAMO72

Ciaran_Corbett wrote: »

http://boylepokerblog.com/index.php/ipo/ipo-2009-fair-or-unfair.html

Paul has written a blog about this. It should answer any outstanding questions.

Interesting read and very well put. Fair play paul and all the team ,im looking forward to playing this year again.

Samoa Joe

5starpool wrote: »

That's a lot of beer he is promising to buy.

No better man to buy it to be fair.

carfax

Ciaran_Corbett wrote: »

http://boylepokerblog.com/index.php/ipo/ipo-2009-fair-or-unfair.html

Paul has written a blog about this. It should answer any outstanding questions.

Very well put imo....I was in two minds over whether to post in this thread or not but here goes.

I played the Roscommon Champs yesterday and was a little surprised when a player, before the tournament even began, made his opinion clear on [the IPO promo] starting a tournament with different stacks for different players is "just not on" he told me.
On the very first hand I got it all-in with my 10,000 stack only to realise that the player I was up against and most of the players on the table (including the player who was upset with the IPO promo) had started with an added 1,000 early bird chip.

I really hope we can get 100% of IPO players to partake in our promo campaign. As Paul says in the blog, last year players didn't really get behind the idea of getting onto and playing on Boylepoker with 20% of all their rake being added to the prize-pool (we could have potentially added a lot more to the prize-pool last year and it would have been through the efforts of players themselves).

I think most people would agree that the IPO is a good opportunity for any new, old or just about any player to experience championship poker and that's what it should all be about.
For that reason we want everyone to get behind what we are doing as we do genuinely believe that we are doing something original, exciting and worthwhile. I mean this sincerely when I say that I would love to see every IPO player make Boylepoker.com their first choice when it comes to playing online (even though its on the dreaded iPoker ) as it would not be the tournament it is without their sponsorship.

Cheers,
Stephen.

Hitman Actual

TommyGunne wrote: »

Well obv! Everyone here obviously has good access to internet, and very likely plays some online.

I do agree with you though.

Yeah, that's a valid point alright. In saying that, one thing that annoys me is the argument that older people, or whoever, are missing out because they're computer illiterate. When I was a reg in the Fitz a few years back, I swear most of the older crew were putting in a lot more hours online than I was.

ROY BRINDLEY

Thought I'd share this with you, the players, who are having goalposts moved on you...

They say money makes the world goes round. I’m not so sure but clearly it oils the cogs of the poker phenomenon. Poker is a multi-million pound industry, it is also a gambling game. A game where ones hard-earned is put on the line. That’s the way it is and that’s the way it should be.

I’ve heard countless claims that some of the bigger ‘made for television’ events should be free to enter by and for the superstars of the game. Folly! Poker is a game of skill but not one which sees the sport's elite win repeatedly as is the case with disciplines such as darts and snooker. Any such exclusive free-to-enter events will take away the very essence of this, the quintessential card game.

Therein, believing the players should shuffle up and deal from a level playing field, I am forced to condemn the implications of industry commerciality on conventional land-based poker tournaments.

Paddy Power set the ball rolling by offering a cash bonus to the online qualifying player who progresses furthest in the two major tournaments they sponsor, the Irish Open and Irish Winter Festival.

Resultantly part of the field have an agenda different to those who have put their cash on the line and play to win. Consequently, towards the business end of proceedings, the non-internet qualifying part of the field are disadvantaged as the play of those simply wishing to progress furthest can be and is farcical.

Now Boylepoker have tossed their spanner in the works, likewise doubtlessly induced by commercial pressures, with a gem of a promotion which offers players who have played on their online poker site an increased starting stack for the forthcoming International Poker Open (IPO), an event they sponsor.

It’s a simple strategy for getting people to play on their site: Do so and you will receive 2,000 extra chips at the IPO giving them a 10,000 starting stack as opposed to other contestants, who have paid the same entry fee, 8,000 chips.

From a commercial viewpoint it is brilliantly simple, for players taking this game seriously it is incompressible, akin to a darts pro playing off of 401 as opposed to his opponents 501 as reward for playing in a few pub games in the build up to a major tournament or a Derby runner getting a 5lb allowance for running at Epsom as a two-year-old.

Lunatics are not running the asylum… Quite the opposite, its organisations, seeking to increase their profits, which are. It’s the lunatics that are allowing this to go on.

With major poker sites behind the majority of major land-based tournaments – way beyond a traditional sponsors role – and fully aware that poker has no governing body the question is not will change ever come around, it’s how bad will things get?

rag2gar

it's like something you'd read in the Racing Post

pok3rplaya

ROY BRINDLEY wrote: »

the non-internet qualifying part of the field are disadvantaged as the play of those simply wishing to progress furthest can be and is farcical.

Wait so you're complaining about people who play bad?

I'm struggling to see the point of this tirade.