Most Annoying things for runners .....

plodder

I was bitten once last Summer while on holiday. I like dogs, and can usually tell what their intentions are, but this f**ker of a sheep dog, crept up behind me, without making any noise and sunk his teeth into my calf. Probably had never seen a runner before. 60 euros for a tetanus shot, that cost me. :mad:

Seres

HardyEustace wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why would you attempt to train your dog in a main thoroughfare where you knew that people would be passing by?

was thinking the same thing

MCOS

plodder wrote: »

I was bitten once last Summer while on holiday. I like dogs, and can usually tell what their intentions are, but this f**ker of a sheep dog, crept up behind me, without making any noise and sunk his teeth into my calf. Probably had never seen a runner before. 60 euros for a tetanus shot, that cost me. :mad:

Those f***ers sheep dogs. They are like cats in their stealth like manner to get you. Bitten by one myself 2 weeks ago but luckily managed to turn my foot so he only tore the toungue of the shoe.

As for my pet hates when running

- pot holes in the dark
- dogs in the dark
- clouds in the dark making it extra dark
- it being dark at 4pm in the winter before you get out of work for your run
- the immediate cloud of midges when you stop on a humid evening just before it gets dark
- cars driving past you at 70mph on coutry roads in the dark

Apart from that I actually quite like running in the dark!

shels4ever

most annoying thing is " No been able to run".....

TFBubendorfer

lightening wrote: »

Just out of interest, how many of you have been bitten? I don't mean chased or attacked, I mean actually bitten by a dog out running.

I have been bitten twice, by the same dog no less. The first time the dog's owner was standing outside her house with 4 or 5 of her dogs running loose. One of them bit me as I ran by - the road is narrow and I could not have left any more room, especially with the sheer number of dogs around.

The second time was a few weeks later, running past the same house that same dog plus his mates shot out of the driveway as I was passing by. Before I knew what was happening it went straight for my shin. It was a nasty bite and drew a surprising amount of blood.

What really pissed me off was the complete and utter indifference of the Gardai when I reported then incident. They really did not want to get involved.

I avoided that road for a few months afterwards. It was a major pain, because it happened to be part of my favourite running routes.

Dogs have shot out of driveways heading for me on numerous other occasions, but that was the only time I actually got bitten.

Stupid_Private

Only thing that annoys me is when my race times don't reflect my training. Other than that I can't think of a single thing that bothers me when I'm out running.

I did get hit by an air rifle a few weeks back but that was such a once off I'd find it hard to call it something that annoys me - it actually confused me more than anything.

shels4ever

Stupid_Private wrote: »

Only thing that annoys me is when my race times don't reflect my training. Other than that I can't think of a single thing that bothers me when I'm out running.

I did get hit by an air rifle a few weeks back but that was such a once off I'd find it hard to call it something that annoys me - it actually confused me more than anything.

:eek: had a full unopened can of coke flung at me a few weeks back, couldnt understand the logic for that.

Condo131

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

What really pissed me off was the complete and utter indifference of the Gardai when I reported then incident. They really did not want to get involved.

Next time you have a problem, make a statement - maybe even have it written/typed and bring it with you. Also notify the dog warden.

If you incurred medical expenses you could also claim against their house insurance.

lightening

HardyEustace wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why would you attempt to train your dog in a main thoroughfare where you knew that people would be passing by?

I know your are not being smart HardyEustace and Seres, but it's a no brainer. The only way to get your dog used to joggers is to have him or her around joggers, get the dog used to people running by at close quarters to the dog. As I explained already, I used friends at the start to get him familiarised.

It was very obvious what I was doing... a dog sitting staring at the owner who is 10 meters away, treat in hand, saying "STAY STAY... GOOD BOY" in the middle of a 240 acre park and two joggers run in between the dog and trainer! That's moronic.

Still can not get over the air rifle thing. Unbelievable.

run_Forrest_run

lightening wrote: »

Just out of interest, how many of you have been bitten? I don't mean chased or attacked, I mean actually bitten by a dog out running.

I was bitten once and in fairness to the dog it was out in the middle of no where, not a place that would see people walking, not even mention running on the road. It was a sheepdog I think and he took a right little snap at me, I turned to him and roared at him to fcuk off!! It worked!

Along my regular route I've never been bitten by a dog, it's more of the hassle of trying to anticipate where the dog is going to walk next and to try avoid it. And of course there is the dog sh*t, I know there are some very responsible owners out there but seriously, I think the majority of dog owners bring their dogs out for a walk in a public area so they can go to the toilet there and they never bother cleaning it up, as long as their own garden is nice and clean!

plodder

There was a dog warden on the Joe Duffy show a few weeks back. Apparently, the Gardai, and even the dog warden, don't have any powers in incidents like these, because it's a civil matter rather than criminal.

What he said you have to do, is go to the district court, and make the complaint there. The court is supposed to contact the dog owner and get their side of the story, and then a judge decides what has to happen.

lightening

Just a note... I have taken the time to train my dog to be jogger friendly, that has to involve having him close to joggers at one stage, now he is perfect with them unless they jog RIGHT by him, he turns his head and sniffs at them.

Dogs shouldn't be roaming the streets and certainly shouldn't be biting. No excuse for that and I don't condone it. I just think that some joggers could be more dog savy if they are going to run in a place where it is legal to have dogs off the lead.

lightening

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

I think the majority of dog owners bring their dogs out for a walk in a public area so they can go to the toilet there and they never bother cleaning it up, as long as their own garden is nice and clean!

Not where I take my dogs. 90% of the people have bags and clean up.

But you shouldn't have got bitten, in fairness to the dog, maybe, but not in fairness to the owner, completely unacceptable if it was a public area.

eliwallach

lightening wrote: »

It was very obvious what I was doing... a dog sitting staring at the owner who is 10 meters away, treat in hand, saying "STAY STAY... GOOD BOY" .

To a dog trainer maybe, but that would not be obvious to me.
To me that would be a guy out in the park with his dog pleading with him to "STAY".
I must also point out at this stage that I have never been a dog owner so I wouldn't be familiar with the niceties of training a dog.

lightening

eliwallach wrote: »

To a dog trainer maybe, but that would not be obvious to me.
To me that would be a guy out in the park with his dog pleading with him to "STAY".

What can I say to that? I don't know, I am not in any way saying you are stupid or anything, maybe incredibly focused on your running, but to any normal person, seeing that scenario between a person and a dog would signify some sort of training or teaching... running between the person and the animal would obviously break the line of sight and concentration.

eliwallach

lightening wrote: »

What can I say to that? I don't know, I am not in any way saying you are stupid or anything, maybe incredibly focused on your running, but to any normal person, seeing that scenario between a person and a dog would signify some sort of training or teaching... running between the person and the animal would obviously break the line of sight and concentration.

Both stupid and abnormal probably.
But I think we can safely say that the thing the annoys you most is: runners (including the stupid and abnormal ones) who are annoyed by dogs which cause hinderance/nuicance/injury.
Duly noted.

meathcountysec

I own a dog. I love him to bits. I am also aware of his limitations as regards obedience. He stays on a lead in public areas.

lightening wrote: »

but to any normal person, seeing that scenario between a person and a dog would signify some sort of training or teaching...

However, if you are aware that your dog requires training, then placing the animal in a situation/scenario where he/she is expected to behave beyond their current obedience level is reckless on your behalf. Animals are unpredictable. I expect dogs off the leash to be under the control of their owner. No excuses. No exceptions. You are responsible for your/it's behavior.

lightening

meathcountysec wrote: »

I own a dog. I love him to bits. I am also aware of his limitations as regards obedience. He stays on a lead in public areas

Good man, I legally walk my dog off lead. I took the time and he is trained perfectly and always under control. I have no problems with joggers, just the ones who get a bit close for comfort!!

Condo131

lightening wrote: »

I legally walk my dog off lead.

Control of Dogs act 1986
9.—(1) The owner or any other person in charge of a dog shall not permit the dog to be in any place other than—
( a ) the premises of the owner, or
( b ) the premises of such other person in charge of the dog, or
( c ) the premises of any other person, with the consent of that person,
unless such owner or such other person in charge of the dog accompanies it and keeps it under effectual control.

The Courts have since ruled that effective control means being on a lead.

Hence, assuming that you actually meant "I legally walk my dog off lead in a public place", then you are not, in fact, legally walking your dog, in a public place, if not on a lead at all times, irrespective of whether he has been trained or not.

Under the same Act, Local Authorities have enacted bye-laws which specifically state that ALL dogs must be kept on a lead in a public place.

lightening

The local bye laws change in certain areas, in my park there are large signs stating when you can walk the dog off lead once they are not a listed breed. Sorry, incorrect Condo, perfectly legal to walk the dog off the lead, you need to check your local by laws.

AJCOT

I've had 2 saliva attacks & neither by canines in the last year. Not sure what's the attraction of this odd sport. Has anyone else had this problem with sometimes drunk youths?

lightening

AJCOT wrote: »

Has anyone else had this problem with sometimes drunk youths?

I had a fella spit right in front of me, not at me, it was meant to annoy me though, I (stupidly) stopped and confronted him, he just skulked off, hands down the front of his tracksuit... Still can't get over the air rifle thing.

Lemon

The most annoying thing about running for me would be keeping injury free. I do all my stretching by the book, wear the right shoes, run on grass etc but my calves are just prone to seizing up.....especially since upping my mileage..

Been lucky and despite doing most of my running in the Phoenix Park I have not had any run ins with dogs...they tend to ignore me...I have had some skangers in pyjamas try to run alongside me but I tend to just pick up the pace and they can never keep up

Condo131

lightening wrote: »

The local bye laws change in certain areas, in my park there are large signs stating when you can walk the dog off lead once they are not a listed breed. Sorry, incorrect Condo, perfectly legal to walk the dog off the lead, you need to check your local by laws.

I've no idea what your local bye-laws state, however, as I said earlier "The Courts have since ruled that effective control means being on a lead" No matter what your local bye-laws state, courts hold precedence.

In fact, I reckon that your signs probably state that the listed breeds must be kept on a lead, thereby and the (incorrect) impression that other breeds do are not required to be on a lead has been deduced from this.

Care to tell us which local authority specifically states that you may do something which the courts have said you may not do?

lightening

Condo131 wrote: »

I've no idea what your local bye-laws state

It states off leash walking is allowed.

"other than a restricted breed as defined by the 1998 Control of Dogs regulations, may be unleashed in such areas provided that such dog must still be under the effectual control of the person-in-charge of the dog in accordance with the Control of Dogs Acts"

St. Annes park in Dublin has signs up when dogs can be walked off the leash. These are the times.

January & December: 8.00 a.m. - 11.00 a.m.
4.00 p.m. - 5.00 p.m.

February & November: 8.00 a.m. - 11.00 a.m.
4.30 p.m. - 5.30 p.m.

March & October: 8.00 a.m. - 11.00 a.m.
5.30 p.m. - 6.30 p.m. (Wintertime)
6.30 p.m. - 7.30 p.m. (Summertime)


April & September: 8.00 a.m. - 11.00 a.m.
7.30 p.m. - 8.30 p.m.

May & June: 8.00 a.m. - 11.00 a.m.
July & August: 8.30 p.m. - 9.30 p.m.

Sorry, here is the link

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:TU6FbN1aDT8J:www.dublinpetschool.com/USERIMAGES/Control%2520of%2520Dogs%2520Bye%2520Laws_tcm35-49141.doc+2

Condo131

lightening wrote: »

It states off leash walking is allowed.

"other than a restricted breed as defined by the 1998 Control of Dogs regulations, may be unleashed in such areas provided that such dog must still be under the effectual control of the person-in-charge of the dog in accordance with the Control of Dogs Acts"

Now you're left in a quandry. The bye-laws state one thing and the Courts have said another.

Condo131 wrote: »

"The Courts have since ruled that effective control means being on a lead" No matter what your local bye-laws state, courts hold precedence.

So.....I see little point in us argueing further. Both of the above are fact, but inconsistent with each other. You, or any other dog owner, are obviously not going to be prosecuted by your Council, who drafted the bye law, however in the event of a civil claim against a dog owner the court will rule that effectual control means being on a lead.

btw, Cork City has NO bye laws governing the control of dogs - none zilch!:eek:

run_Forrest_run

Condo131 wrote: »

btw, Cork City has NO bye laws governing the control of dogs - none zilch!:eek:

I'd believe that! Out for a run late last night (9pm) and a girl was walking her dog, dog was on a lead as I was approaching so I was happy. Then the dog began settling down to foul the area and the girl removed the lead to let him crap on the public walkway as she walked off happy in the knowledge her garden is nice and sh*t free:mad:

Anyway, I'm going off topic now!

Rusty Cogs 08

I got a classic yesterday evening. A guy cycling along the path with his dog on a lead. I thought of skipping out onto the road until I caught a glance of a bus coming up behind. You have to be a bit zen in these scenarios methinks.

lightening

Condo131 wrote: »

however in the event of a civil claim against a dog owner the court will rule that effectual control means being on a lead.

btw, Cork City has NO bye laws governing the control of dogs - none zilch!:eek:

The court will respect by-laws, they are the rules, written in black and white, there are even signs up stating when and when you can't walk the dog. I am sure there is by-laws in Cork, your local counselor or TD will provide you with them. Anyway, dogs are the last thing you need to worry about if you approach them sensibly, I genuinely can't believe some of us are fixated on the dog thing when others here have been shot with air rifles and had full cans of coke thrown out of car windows at them.

meathcountysec

lightening wrote: »

full cans of coke thrown out of car windows

A new way of distributing goodie-bags at races???;)

tunguska

1. People honking the car horn and shouting out the window as they pass you. Why, whats the point? What are they aiming to accomplish? Is it just plain nastiness?

2. People out walking their dogs with one of those leads that extend for about 30ft. Do they have any idea how much space theyre taking up and how awkward it is for others to get by? Seriously are they completely unaware of other people? Or is it more sinister i.e. theyre aware and dont gice a ****

3. Water stations at races were they only hand out water in cups. Yes Im thankful for the rehydration but Its very hard to run and drink from a cup at the same time. Bottles are perfect.

4. The wind. I know theres nothing we can do about this but its just so annoying. I hate running against a strong wind, which is pretty much always in this country. Rain on its own is fine, even nice to run in the rain. But wind and rain............

5. Non-runners asking how you did in a race and pretending to be impressed when you proudly inform them of your sub 3hr marathon heroics. Which sounds fine.........but then they go and ruin it all by asking: Whats a marathon, 12 miles is it? <<cue sighs of resignation>>
I know theyre only being polite but if you dont know your stuff Id rather not be asked.

Condo131

lightening wrote: »

The court will respect by-laws, they are the rules, written in black and white.....

Actually it's the other way round. Bye-laws must comply with the law as laid down AND interpreted by the Courts. Precedence applies. A bye-law that is incosistent with the law cannot be relied upon and will be struck down. Plain and simple.

lightening wrote: »

I am sure there is by-laws in Cork.

Contact Cork City Council, 021-4966222. There are no bye-laws governing the control of dogs in Cork City, in public parks or any other public places. Cork County Council do have bye-laws governing them. I have raised the matter with Cork City Council on several occassions.

lightening wrote: »

Anyway, dogs are the last thing you need to worry about if you approach them sensibly.

I don't approach dogs - Full stop!

I do from time to time, experience problems running in public places, in particular along the Mahon/Lakelands public amenity walkway in Cork City, where dog owners seem, more and more, to be declaring UDI, making it an open range for all sort of dogs. On a "normal" evening or weekend, I come across 30 to 40 dogs on the 3 mile stretch that I use as part of my run. Of these, around a half dozen, plus or minus will be on leads. Generally I come across a minimum of 1 and somethimes 2 or 3 dangerous breeds (as defined by the act) that are NOT on leads OR muzzled. Having said that most of the dangerous breed I come across there are on leads, but few are muzzled. Afterthought - the majority of owners of dogs not on leads actually carry leads in their hands:mad:

lightening wrote: »

I genuinely can't believe some of us are fixated on the dog thing when others here have been shot with air rifles and had full cans of coke thrown out of car windows at them.

Are you suggesting that this issue is not reasonable? These other issues you mention are serious themselves, but we're not going to ignore out-of-control dogs because of that.

Your dog may be trained. How many, do you reckon, of the other dogs that you come across are also trained?

btw, One general observation. Any time I've stopped and spoken to a dog owner, and, in nearly 26 years running, that's only happened about 2 or 3 times a year at most, I've generally got foul-mouthed abuse and been told that I shouldn't be there/running/just abused and, of course, My Fido can do no wrong! the dog is always right and everyone else is wrong!

Enough said. Over and out.

lightening

Condo131 wrote: »

Plain and simple.

There are signs up stating when I can have my dog off the lead, I will walk my dog legally off the lead during these times legally. End off.

Condo131 wrote: »

dangerous breeds (as defined by the act)

No such act in Ireland, there is a listed breed though and they should be muzzled and on a short lead.

Condo131 wrote: »

Are you suggesting that this issue is not reasonable? These other issues you mention are serious themselves, but we're not going to ignore out-of-control dogs because of that.

I would consider people shooting runners much much more serious than dogs that might be out of control with very little chance of being bitten.

Condo131 wrote: »

26 years running, that's only happened about 2 or 3 times a year at most

26 years running, I presume you do it what, four times a week? That's 192, you have run ins with dog owners two or three times out if 192 times?

You been out running about nearly TEN Thousand times in the last 26 years and have been bitten once?

Not a huge problem really. I think we should agree to disagree.

Over and out.

lightening

I do acknowledge there are dreadful dog owners out there Condo, really bad, but not all are bad and some take great pains to make sure the dog is socialised properly. Of lead bans lead to dogs not being socialised, that means if the escape the lead they become frightened and a frightened dog, big or small isn't a good idea.

Vicious, barking, chasing dogs are not acceptable, but a bit of understanding from both sides would ease things.

Condo131

My final word on this. We are obviously going nowhere, though your last post was more conciliatory.

lightening wrote: »

There are signs up stating when I can have my dog off the lead, I will walk my dog legally off the lead during these times legally.

As I said before, you are complying with the bye-laws but not the law, as interpreted by the Courts, NOT a local authority.

If you do find yourself legally involved on a control of dogs issue, you cannot rely on defective bye-laws as a defence. Ignorance of the law (and this means the law of the land, not a local bye-law) is not a valid legal defence.

lightening wrote: »

No such act in Ireland, there is a listed breed though and they should be muzzled and on a short lead.

Now, like a typical "My dog is harmless" person, you're splitting hairs - anything to "prove" your point. The Regulations relating to specific listed breeds, and crosses therof, stem from The Control of Dogs Act 1986 No such act in Ireland??? C'mon now, making such a claim in your arguement just shreds your credibility on the issue.
[This is like when a dog came after me last year, I asked the owner to:
"Keep you Alsatian on a lead, please."
"No such breed!"
"OK, German Shepherd"
"Corrrect!" (with the slurring)
[Dangerous (restricted breed, per the Regulations) dog is a dangerous dog, no matter what you call it!

lightening wrote: »

I would consider people shooting runners much much more serious than dogs that might be out of control with very little chance of being bitten.

IMHO, the chances of any of us being attacked by a dog while running is FAR higher than those of being shot.

lightening wrote: »

..... you have run ins with dog owners two or three times out if 192 times?

There is a difference between my engaging with dog owners and dogs engaging with me. I don't do either if I can avoid it. You can revise the number of dog incidents up significantly.

lightening wrote: »

Not a huge problem really.

Several others have posted here relating their experiences. An attack whether it ends up in a bite or not is a significant issue. I don't think it should be simptly waved away as you apprear to imply.

I see that you are quite a prolific poster but have, apart from your dog defence on this thread, only one single other post on the Athletics / Running / Triathlon forum. A significant number of your posts are dog related. I'm not saying that you aren't entitled to argue your position in this particular forum but it might have given readers an idea of where you're at if you had said

lightening wrote: »

I'm not a jogger per say, I hate it.."

I think this also gives us an idea of your position.

lightening wrote: »

Have you not come across the people who approach you to plss and moan about your dog being off the lead or being vicious? I have had people walk right up to me and the dog demanding that I put the dog on the lead when I was perfectly legal to have the dog off the lead. (local by-laws) Then they completely freak when the dog looks or sniffs at them.

My wife who is tiny gets this all the time, much more than I do from cyclists and joggers. We actually had a jogger run in between me and the dog when he was on the lead. This was in a 240 acre empty park.

I have had a cyclist cycle by me only to stop, get off his bike and try to kick the dog in the head.

Some people are just trouble makers.

Everyone else is wrong except Fido! They all go out of their way to harass you and your dog? I just don't think so:rolleyes:

Over and out. Final answer!

lightening

Again, the law thing. I have checked it out. The by-laws regulate the area and are the law, I am legally walking my dog off the lead. There is no dangerous dogs act, full stop, there is a listed dog breed act, big difference, the UK have a dangerous dog act that includes the banning of certain dogs. I don't really like jogging, I like running though, don't know how it makes any difference.

You went looking at my old posts? That is a true story, do you think it is reasonable what that jogger did? Or course not. Anyway, I stated already there are bad dog owners.. idiots some of them, there are idiot joggers too. I have come across both of them, but, again, if runners would learn a bit more about dogs and dog owners would learn about joggers things would be easier. I made an effort, I trained my dog, I socialised him, I got him used to joggers because there are a lot of them around. You aren't budging though. You won't take anything in, you even think the law is against the law, you just don't want dogs around you, full stop. Fair enough, but there will always be dogs around.

I never said "They all go out of their way to harass my dog" I never implied that, so your sneering raised eyes pic isn't needed. I see hundreds of joggers in my area, they all recongise my dog and salute me when they see me, the dog sitting or healing. There is just the odd fool and the odd trouble maker.

goofygirl

All this arguing over dogs is hilarious.

I'm doing my marathon training in Canada and I have to worry about BEARS. If I'm running through the woods I have to shout out every couple of hundred yards to warn any lurking bears of my approach so as not to startle them. You don't want an angry grizzly on your case.

figs

goofygirl wrote: »

All this arguing over dogs is hilarious.

Certainly has stirred some passions on both sides!

goofygirl wrote: »

I'm doing my marathon training in Canada and I have to worry about BEARS. If I'm running through the woods I have to shout out every couple of hundred yards to warn any lurking bears of my approach so as not to startle them. You don't want an angry grizzly on your case.

Now that's annoying! Wouldn't fancy meeting one of them on an early morning run!

Surely responsible owners keep their bears on a lead at all times?! We'll get Condo on the case...

misty floyd

Air rifles.........dogs. Could be a new sport right there. I can picture myself dressed like rambo in a pair of asics.

I love dogs. Would be more likely to shoot the owners

A thing that annoys me is all the washing that needs to be done when training 4 or 5 times a week. People shouting out of car windows baffles me.

Racing Flat

Where I run there are signs at every entrance saying that dogs must be on leads. Dogs are rarely on leads there. So it's neither obeyed nor enforced.

I hate when a dog runs up to you and plays with you for the owner to smile lovingly 'he's only playing with you'. Fair enough he's only playing and he knows no better, but he's upsetting my run, I'm trying to run a steady 6 minute mile pace, having to watch my step so I don't knock the dog upsets that, ruins rhythm, concentration, the session. It might be my own fault if I was in a place at a time where dogs are allowed off lead, but when I'm in a place where leads are compulsory...

WhitestBoyAlive

People that have their watches making noises the whole way through a race!

fair enough garmin runners that beep every mile but i've run next to people that have it going every 0.1 and
even worst people that have their BPM bleeping away. Craziness

gerard65

People spitting and 'snotting' during races - stop it - its disgusting. During the half marathon last year I had a guy on my shoulder for about a mile who kept making the most disgusting noises, almost got sick, eventually got away from him. Happened again last week at the 5 mile. I can excuse farting but this gozzing, snotting, spitting - just STOP IT.

Woddle

I got hit with a spit int the BOI beach race last year, the guy in front spat and the strong sea breeze got hold of it and directed it straight into my face.

I see Marlay park have built a dog play area that is fenced in, a great idea.

Condo131

People who put on a spurt in races, cut in too soon and then slow down!

meathcountysec

Walkers in races who start to run as you get to them, only to slow to a walk again, until you get to them when they start to run, only to slow to a walk again, until you get to them when etc etc etc............................................

xebec

misty floyd wrote: »

People shouting out of car windows baffles me.

Had this happen to me for the 1st time in ages yesterday, car was stuck in traffic and I just kept going. Funny thing was that I met a Garda that I know about 100 yards further down the road who was pulling people over for using bus lanes, so stopped to have a chat with him. The car was a hell of a lot quieter when they passed me standing next to the Guard!

louthandproud

misty floyd wrote: »

People shouting out of car windows baffles me.

Have had this happen to me a few times in the Phoenix Park of all places. It doesn't really annoy me though, no point in worrying about brainless muppets.

One thing that did annoy me in the Park about two years ago was a bunch of the above brainless muppets sitting on the bonnet of their standard edition souped up hatchbacks throwing stones at me as I ran up one of the grassy banks near the car park at the bottom of the Khyber road.

littlebug

meathcountysec wrote: »

Walkers in races who start to run as you get to them, only to slow to a walk again, until you get to them when they start to run, only to slow to a walk again, until you get to them when etc etc etc............................................

lol:D and then the feckers take off and finish before you too :mad: I suspect that there may only be a select few of us who.. em...place ourselves at the latter section of the field who understand that one :pac:

lightening

What do they shout out the car at you?

misty floyd

lightening wrote: »

What do they shout out the car at you?

"Ger up aoura dat"